The Best CIS ?

[Bodyslide]

If Epson made a CIS they would charge us 5x the cost of the printer for the CIS.

[pixiemom]

The average time before the JLW kit fails appears to be four months. Several people's kits failed all at the same time, they were the ones who had gotten their kit first. Then the ones who had gotten it next, started failing. Maybe that problematic piece of plastic that is supposed to act as a valve has a lifespan of four months.

Macro's kit failed after only one month, but that seems to be the exception.

I sincerely hope that everyone else's kit doesn't fail.

Me, I can't afford to take the chance....I'll go with one of the other kits just to be safe.

[habs01]

Im sorry but it seems everyone is making this so much more difficult than it needs to be.

--changing firmware/chips?
--drilling holes in carts?
--downloading 3rd party monitoring programs?
--leaving printer ON forever?? (i turn mine on/off a few times a day)

Im just not that much into it I guess. I installed my JLWSales kit and forgot about it. I did put a spare ink resovior outside the printer but its only filled up about 5 tablespoons or so, I dont do 'cleanings'

Sure sometimes i have feed problems but thats the printer and one time black didnt print on my disk, so i turned it off then on and it printed fine.

Im glad you guys really enjoy the science of CIS systems but for me its never a problem that I need to play with chips and whatever you're doing. Im just glad CIS systems are available. Screw Epson!

lol, I second that!

Have had my JLWSales over 3 months without any issues. Turn it on/off on a need to use basis. My waste ink bottle which was installed about 2 1/2 months ago, has never been emptied and also contains roughly 5 tablespoons. So far this CIS kit is a hassle free experience. Frankly, I can use my spare time for better things than doing a biopsy of my printer.

[Mirot87]

Keep preaching the good Word about the evils of JLWSales Macrovision. Until my experience proves otherwise Im happy and I dont think anyones 'wrong' for getting any system. Im using the epson 200 and when I turn the thing on, it moves the heads back and forth but does not do a cleaning operation.

This was a $99 printer (before rebate) and the CIS was $75 or so. It is not worth my time to play with all the modifications and whatever some people are recommending. Im happy that I could just put the kit in, and print -- sometimes around 200 disks a week. I dont think I could have my business without it!

[dun4cheap]

I think the technical information is handy. I didn't buy the JLW model, but I am sure it works fine. I am just glad I have a CIS. I feel the R200 is a disposable printer at best and I intend to use it and wear it out. When it breaks, sure I may try to spend a few minutes to fix it. Other wise I know I have already gotten my money worth and then some.

To all the users who have shared their experiences and modifications thanks, I appreciate it. I may mod mine later with the cleaning bottle who knows.

[Idle]

The acid test will be whether these systems are still going one and two years hence.

The JLWSales kits would be good if only they didn't use those horrid cartridges, otherwise I think they're quite well done -- the plastic in the bottles isn't as well moulded as it might be, but the design makes sense and they're strong enough.

When my OEM carts run out I'll investigate converting them to work on it -- ought to be possible and should at least not leak.

I've tried a couple of times to contact the seller I bought my set from, have had no reply and don't really expect one.

I notice he also has nothing on Ebay at the moment -- maybe he's vanished.

More out of curiosity than anything I just bid in the current InkJetUsa item -- I'll post my thoughts on it when it turns up, which will probably be about a week.

Incidentally, the R series printers may be a disposable item in some parts of the world, but hardly so in Australia -- my R310 wasn't expensive, but its price would have paid the grocery bill for a couple of weeks...

[pixiemom]

Idle, are you the one who outbid me????

Just out of curiosity, which seller did you buy your set from (the one who isn't replying to your email)?

[Idle]

Looks like it -- sorry about that.

If you really want that one, I'd suggest you email him and see what he offers -- you're uinder no obligation to Ebay once the auction's over.

The failed one came from one Jacky Chan Wang Chun, who sells as 2004wangchun.

I've compared notes (and detailed photo's) with an owner of the JLWSales gadget on our side of the world and it's definitely the same one -- his is still working OK, BTW, but he's for sure not going to disturb the cart seals...

I got barely a month out of mine, and had I looked at the seals with a glass before installing it would never have gone in -- although that wasn't why I took it out.

[Talus]

I can only comment on this system:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16200&item=6766469138&rd=1

I've had this model for a couple of months with no problems. I leave my printer on all the time and there are 4-5 days without printing. It autoresets the ink levels. And I've not had any problems with 'banding' of colors or head cleaning issues.

If someone asked me which CIS to buy, I'd steer them towards this one, (although I don't know anything about the seller in above link). I believe that refilling will be easier since you don't have to tilt the reservoirs. My experience has shown that it was a "install & forget-it" system.

In an odd way, I'm looking forward to refilling to see if any problems creep up. I just don't have that much to print!

[bidefordboy]

Well my system is still running smoothly. Using much less ink than my previous JLW kit, & cost me $30 less. If it had been fitted with the new Arc chips (reset to 90%) as advertised it would have been perfect. But since I now have a waste bottle attached it's no big deal.
I have managed to contact the actual manufacturer of my system & am in the process of negotiating a price for a set of chip's to test. Will keep you all updated.

http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/viewimage.x/00000000/toppyjess/EPSONR300C.jpg?allow_ma...pt=bidpay&sp=1

[macrovision]

My printonadime kit goes for several days without printing... and I do nozzle checks before every print job and they're always perfect...no leaks ever and I'm very comfortable with the unit....people preach about jlsales and forget that there's a seperate forum for that....most of us in here already bought your cis...dude, and there's no need to preach about how great/I got better/never worry mumbo jumbo.... I do at least 100 full color DVD's a week and I'll post nozzle check scans as well as pics of my 100-200 printed discs....AND WHAT?

[zuckuss483]

I bought the CIS kit from Topyjess and have had no problems so far but was wondering where can I get the wasted ink bottle as his kit doesnt include one.

Thanks

[bidefordboy]

I bought the CIS kit from Topyjess and have had no problems so far but was wondering where can I get the wasted ink bottle as his kit doesnt include one.

Thanks

Any suitable bottle will do, here are instruction's :-

http://forum.ozmods.com/viewtopic.php?t=69

[bb-q]

A waste bottle for wasted ink, oh geez, is this necessary? That seems to be a little extreme. All CIS kits require this and if you don't have one, is your printer gonna get saturated with ink inside if u don't?

[Mirot87]

I heard it was vital to add a waste ink bottle and it was easy enough so I did. As I stated above, I only have about 5 tablespoons of ink in that bottle, and its been kind of messy because I dropped it once lol so its been not really useful. It is nice though to see how much ink is being wasted just in case so I dont have to worry about some day finding ink seeping out the bottom of the printer.

The printer I have (Epson 200) wasnt meant to handle large volumes of ink so I believe the built in waste collector is pretty small.

[habs01]

Mirot87, that previous post nearly killed me. I almost choked laughing.

Macrovision, a couple of people here have been giving you a little heat. Why do you think that is? You don't seem to take a hint.

That being said, any technical information regarding CIS systems will always be welcome.

[Acrimony]

To those of you giving crap to macrovision, sure he's a little eccentric, but every bit of advice he has given has been useful and spot on. He may be repititious with some of his comments, but I feel his pain. I too had my JLWSales kit crap out on me after a month, mainly because of the cheap cartridges he's using, or more specifically the cheap "valve". Macrovision apparently has a chip on his shoulder against JLWSales, and rightfully so. I'm sure if your kit broke and leaked ink all over your printer you'd be in here singing it's praises? I didn't think so. Saying he somehow works for PrintOnADime is silly, as he hasn't been pushing their kits on anyone and has reccomended more than just their kit. It's like me saying you work for JLWSales because you priase them so much . But I'm intelligent enough to understand that you praise it because it works for you, people obviously aren't going to prise any product that breaks on them and breaks something else in the process.

I received my PrintOnADime kit yesterday, the cartridges are certainly of higher quality then JLWSales. They're spring loaded, use a proper valve in conjunction with a rubber gasket to form a good seal and are multi-chambered like Epson's cartridges. My only complaint with PrintOnADime's kit so far is that the reservoir isn't as well built as the JLWSales reservoir. Other than that I'm completely satisfied and what really sold me was their quick turn around on E-Mails, and the fact they are only a few hundred miles from me. I feel assured that, should a problem arrise, they'll take care of me.

In the end if you're content with your purchase and get your moneys worth out of it, then more power to you and your wallet. I can assure you though that I have no bias to any of these companies, and should my PrintOnADime kit fail like my JLWSales kit I'll certainly let you all know, as thats what this thread is for.

[offline]

@ all

Please keep it under control or I will
be forced to close this thread.

@ macrovision

Be an adult and behave or find another avenue for
your talents.

[macrovision]

First I must apologize I offended anyone with my statement...It was Not a religous statement as to approve or disapprove any religon, It was carcasim directed at the fact that I don't feel that I need worry about JLWSALES in the way Idle Quoted in the post below mines And yes the moderator is right... Childishness doesn't have the same meaning as adult... Some of us need to learn to have respect for others opinons and as for myself...I went too far with the carcastic remarks so I'll deal with myself on my own terms...Part of what being an adult is being able to admit when your wrong...I have enough self esteem to post that I was not only wrong but I let others take me outside myself , I have to decide what offends me and decide how to act. My emotions aren't that of a machine...I have a choice... I chose to act more like a child than an adult and for that I'm Sorry. I also attempted to Edit the post I was warned about however it's locked so once again I apologize for my comments! And last but not least, A quote of something that someone said around me not too long ago " If I manage to help one person then I accomplished something" I really hope that my posts did more good than bad...Take care everyone. It's been a very educational experience

[bidefordboy]

Hey Macrovision

Havs found a source for the new ARC chip's (reset to 90%) & you won't believe the price, $6. Yep, that's right $6 for the complete set. If you want the details pm me.

[offline]

Sadly it seems I have to lock this thread.

I hate it when a minority ruins it for the majority,
so I might consider unlocking it if enough people PM
me... BUT I'd be extremely nasty if further problems
arose.

Perhaps it is better to let this topic sleep for a bit.

[offline]

Thanks to a number of requests, this useful thread is now unlocked again.
Please think before posting.

[bidefordboy]

First of all I would like to apoligize to everyone for my last post. The information should have been sent to Macrovision in a pm. But I thought he was taking too much stick from certain members of this forum & because he has helped me out on a number of occasions, not only in this thread but also in pm's, I thought I would try to calm thing's down a bit.

As I have explained to everyone that sent me pm's, I don't want to give a link to the company that I have ordered the chip's from, until I have received them & been able to test them. They are made by the same company that made my cis purchased from Toppy-Jess, so I don't know why they were not fitted.
As soon as I have tested the chip's I will let you all know. If they don't work as promised then I won't be much out of pocket.

Below is part of the email received from the company (I have just used copy & paste).

Thank you for contacting -------- ---------- I am very glad to hear that you
are interested in our Auto Reset Chip and Continuous Ink Supply system for
Epson R300.
>
> For New ARC Chips for Epson R300 (T0481-T0486), we can offer you US$1.00/pc.
If your order is above 100pcs, we can offer you US$0.80/pc. Discussing about
CIS System for Epson R300, Attached pls find the picture and Instruction to
your reference. Currently we can offer you US$18.00/set without ink. If you
have interests in them, pls feel free to contact with me. We can ship your
order out directly to UK by DHL or UPS.

[bidefordboy]

Also Captain315 & myself have been in contact using pm's, and I hope we are still friend's

[Captain315]

Also Captain315 & myself have been in contact using pm's, and I hope we are still friend's

You can bank on it my friend. My apologies for jumping you over the post. If I can be of assistance to you in any way, just ask and I will do whatever I can.

Regards

[nickelzy]

This is all making me tear up... someone give me a tissue. Can't you all now feel the love in this forum?

On to another issue...

There has been a lot of discussion concering not letting your printer sit for very long without actually printing because this might cause the CIS system to clog. I've let it sit for a weekend before and have been just fine. However, I have a wedding and honeymoon coming up in which I'll be out for a couple of weeks. Any thoughts on this one? I guess unless someone has any suggestions, I will get a real good idea on how long my CIS system can sit without printing.

I'm not sure if it matters (I wouldn't doubt it does based on all of the posts regarding how terrible the JLW Sales CIS system is) but I have the infamous JLW Sales CIS system.

[bidefordboy]

Why not use the 'autoprint' software available here :-

http://inksupply.info/index.php?_a=downloads

You will have to leave your printer on 24/7. My r300 has been 'on' for the last couple of month's, no problem's yet.

[nickelzy]

Cool, thanks bidefordboy! However, after downloading the program and installing it, I just had it run to check to make sure everything is set up properly and it doesn't work. Perhaps something is not set up with my password?? I don't have a password on my computer so I didn't enter one.

In the dialog box "Run as" it has listed: OFFICE\Owner

Is that right? Again, I don't have a password on my computer so I didn't put one in. I see the program beginning to load at the designated time that I set, but then it closes very quickly. Any suggestions?

[nickelzy]

OHHH!!! I've got it figured out. I tried to do this without reading all of the instructions and therefore missed a step (can't say that this is the first time that's happened). It had nothing to do with my password but instead, configuring the run as and start in lines properly. Now everything works like a charm!

Thanks again!

[Captain315]

Could someone straighten me out on the use of the SSC service utility and the Epson ink monitor? I've been testing the Wholesale-Ink CIS system for the last two weeks and it seems to be working very well. I do get a head cleaning every once in a while but since I've got the SSC utility running with the Ink Freezer on automatic, I'm not really sure what it's doing. It appears that I need to just run the Epson monitor utility and remove the SSC utility. Information would be appreciated so I can tell if the reset chip is doing the 90%, no head-cleaning claim is valid.