The Best CIS ?

[Chester1971]

The installation pics...

This is the kink in the tubes that caused all the twisting and snagging problems.





I fixed the problem by attaching a simple splint under the tubes so when the carriage goes far left the tubes cant fall down into the printer cavity.





Not very elegant but hey...it works

I'll post more if there are any problems with the system or the auto reset chips...looks good so far though.

[habs01]

Chester, I'm glad you got your CIS to work properly. It looks like a nice setup.

Keep us posted to see how it stands the test of time.

[Chester1971]

I haven't had any REAL problems with the CIS yet, although I have noticed something about the ink...

Photo output has a sort of moss green tinge to it, very difficult to describe accurately and even more difficult to demonstrate as I don't have a scanner. I'm pretty sure the problem could be solved using the colour sliders of the R300's driver...but to be honest, I wouldn't know where to start, any pointers?

I'm a bit loathe to start changing random settings without at least an inkling as to what I'm doing.

There doesn't appear to be any colour profiles associated with this ink.

[FreeDiver]

Habs, just checked this forum and read your reply about your being the last surviving J system...LOL...ha that cracked me up. I've found that saturating the pad with windex (ammonia d) will unclog most clogs. My friend had his printer off for a month while he was in Japan and when he came back his printer had a clog from hell. No matter what he did he couldn't clear it! After doubting me for a couple of weeks, he finally conceeded and used my saturation method of unclogging the head, and VOILA IT WORKED!!!! HEY BIG D, YOU OWE ME ONE! Forgot the one or two small dabs of Windex, heck it costs only a few bucks a bottle, just saturate the pad and soak overnight and run a cleaning....just make sure you don't put so much that it spills all over the place. He didn't even have to reprime the carts, so that may have been overkill. I think that the biggest problems that the cis systems have is trying to maintain the vacuum seal, everytime i opened my carts for cleaning, I noticed a small amount of dry-crystallized ink on the spike of the print head intake tubes (the part that enters the carts) so I think that that was the problem for most of us, a leak or a loss of vacuum. I have to say that overall, I loved my Cis but after having clog after clog and air leaking into the hoses causing problems, I decided to dump my cis and go with the print for less refill carts. Let me say this about refill carts. First of all, this set is working great. I've left my printer off for days with no clogs and no problems. I don't know what it is, but maybe less working parts, less vacuum/leak problems.
All I can say is that it works great and maybe I would have gone with the refills to begin with from the start if at first everyone recommeneded them.
The big negative, and for me this is a big one. I print a lot of photo's. I have a large family and after every event, I have to print a ton of photo's and when I had the cis system, I never had to refill my carts. I just loved the way my ink would SLOWLY lower in the reservoirs, and to me that was the best part of the Cis systems. Now with the refill kits, damn, I have to refill all the time and make a small mess each time I do. Don't get me wrong, so far this is the only negative but for me, isn't that the main reason most of us get the Cis systems? I wish someone could make a bigger refill kit (they would have to make sure the darn things would fit under the casing though) so that those that print alot wouldn't have to refill the carts all the time.
But heck don't get me wrong, if they could make a cis system that worked, I would probably go back to the cis. Basically, what I 'm trying to say is, "if it works for you then go for it!" They both work great and all I can say is, use your cis until it dies, and then switch to a refill system.
I'll still be checking on this forum, especially since my friend is being a loyal cis user and I'll relay any problems fixes we figure out for everyone else.
Chester... , though I can only say that I'm pretty sure that the problem is your ink, I can't say for sure. If you read back a bunch of pages, you'll see that I had the same problem that you had. No matter how I played with the colors, the pics always either had a greenish or a reddish tint. I once got the settings to a point where it was somewhat acceptable, but it was never perfect. Basically I bought some stratitec ink from Sams club, and though there are some that say that it worked for them, I (and my friend with his cis) had major problems with the colors. The stuff was super cheap but it just wasn't worth it. If your not having any kind of clogs and your nozzle checks are okay, then switch inks. I would swear by InkJetUsa ink, but they changed their web site and now I don't know about buying from them (anyone buy from them recently?). They had some great ink, a bit more expensive, but worth it. I heard Print for less ink is just as good, so do yourself a favor, and after checking your nozzles and running a few cleanings, and the pictures still look like everyone in your family is related to the green giant, then switch to a better quality ink and you'll notice the difference on your first print! Heck how do you start a topic, I think I'll start one on best Cis/Refill cart replacement ink. Anyway, Chester, hope that helps.....it's your ink.

[Chester1971]

Freediver, thanks for the reply...I actually fixed the problem, and it's a word of warning for anybody else thinking of buying my system (or one like it).

I had the bottles stuck onto the side of the printer with velcro but they were about half way up the side of the printer (stupid place to put them in retrospect but there you go) I discovered that the cartridges were very slowly leaking (not badly but enough to notice a little pool of ink in the bit with the X shaped wires. I repositioned the bottles at the printer's base level and voila! No more leaks and no more green tinge.

I have no idea why having the bottles at the wrong height would manifest itself in this way...printers are just like that I suppose

The colours are still a little...I suppose..."flat" would be the best way to describe it, I'm pretty sure that's a problem with profiling though. I'm considering buying ProfilePrism, it's not too dear and would allow me to profile with different media and (when the time comes) different ink.

[Chester1971]

I do a lot of borderless prints and have noticed the the foam pad in the diagram gets FILTHY!





Is there an easy way to clean this? Can it be simply prised up and rinsed under the tap or is it fiendishly stuck down somehow? I'm reluctant to start pulling in random directions in case it rips then I'm snookered

[Idle]

have no idea why having the bottles at the wrong height would manifest itself in this way...printers are just like that I suppose

The laws of physics rearing their ugly head...

You set up a syphon -- the weight of liquid in the lines did the rest.

With the bottles in the right place, it takes the small amount of vacuum generated by the print heads to maintain flow, so only the amount of ink actually used is sucked through.

re the foam in the bottom of the printer, removing it would be more bother than it's worth -- if the gunk bothers you, try absorbent paper to remove any liquid, possibly a gentle wipe with a damp cloth to pick up what solids you can, otherwise just make sure the black plastic bits that guide the paper are clean so you don't get marks on the reverse side.

[Chester1971]

Thanks Idle, I realised the leakage was caused by siphoning, what I thought was weird was why having the bottles too hight gave everything a green cast...

Fair do's with the foam pads, I guess I just don't like mess

I'll leave it until/unless it becomes a problem...then dive in

[nickelzy]

I used to own the JLW Sales CIS system a while ago, until it konked out on me. Then I went to the Canon Pixma 400 (did the mod) and have been happy ever since. However, my dad is interested in my old Epson R200 so I'm back at it again with this ink issue.

Can someone please remind me... I want to make this very easy with my dad who doesn't want to mess with refilling cartridges, so I just want to buy generic cartridges. Two questions come to mind:

1. Would you suggest that in the case of simply buying generic ink cartridges, ebay would be the best source or does one of the companies mentioned in this thread sell them too?

2. When I buy the cartridges, I vaguely remember something about needing a chip resetter in order for the cartridges to work with the printer. Is this necessary for generic cartridges (like what I'm describing wanting to use) or just for refillable ones?

Any info you can provide me would be greatly appreciated as I'm trying to get this together for my dad by this weekend. Thanks!

[FreeDiver]

Nickel;
First of all let me say that though your father may not want to use refill carts, I have to say that their not that bad. They are actually easy to refill, versus an Cis system, albeit, you will have to refill more often. With the Cis system you have to pour from the bottle and you usually spill a lot, (at least I did) with the refills, it's just one syringe full and your done.
If they made a cis that worked without clogging and without vacuum leaks, I would probably consider switching back to that system, but for now, I recommend the refill carts. I think overall, from looking at all the different ones on ebay and the net, they are all the same, but the printforless ones are the ones that I bought.
I know you asked for filled generic carts for your dad, but I thought I would let you know of the ease of refilling the carts so that at least you have an option other than using generic carts. The only thing is, I recommend a once in a while windex pad soaking to prevent any clogs that may arise from using the carts.
Okay, now I have a question for you. I was looking at the Canon pixma when my R200 was clogged and I thought I was going to have to buy a new printer, but I was wondering, what was the TOTAL cost of the entire Pixma system? This includes the printer, tray and what ever mods you have to do. Plus where did you buy everything? Plus, (this is the most important question....I looked at your other Pixma forum, but at the time, I didn't see a answer for this one.) Does the Pixma system have a Cis or a refill cart system for it? Last I checked, I was unable to find any reference to using third party inks nor a cis system for this printer. Everyone on your forum was talking about buying generic carts instead. If my Epson ever dies, I may have to go out and buy a Pixma, but only if I could use refills or third party ink. Thanks

[nickelzy]

I have a Pixma 4000 (which can be bought for about $100 on eBay). I also just got a Pixma MP780 for Christmas. I love them both! As for total cost - it's just the cost of the printer and the tray. The trays used to only be around 23 bucks or so. Unfortunately, at least right, they're hard to come by so what is available is being sold on eBay at a premium (about 40 bucks). I'm hoping that will come down because I'm in need of another tray (which I give my Pixma 4000 to my bro). As for the ink, I've been using Canon ink, which can be bought at a fairly decent price at Sams. However most people I've talked with use generic cartridges and I've never heard of any CIS system available (although I haven't been looking either). The price is very good on the generic ink (although you sacrifice a tad on quality, which is the case with any printer). There is no price to do the mod. Good luck to you -

[DavidEC]

Now that there are quite a few different cis systems available I thought it would be a good idea to start a new thread for cis systems in general.....

OK... After buying a 'Lightscribe' drive and finding that I can not get good media (I purchased 3@15pks and have only used 20 and have 12 disc's where NERO gave a quality rating of less than 50% which I am shipping back to HP for inspection as they were burned on a HP 740i/b drive) I went ahead and purchased an Epson R220.

But it seems that other than the eBay search most of the 'USA' sellers of this 'CIS' systems {when I first saw the thread title I thought that somebody was talking about ripping the CBS TV's shows DVDs } that none of the links in the 28 pages of this topic would work for me...

And on eBay I see system pricing running from $45 to $100 [w/o shipping] and from the photos it is hard to tell which ones are the ones that seem to be working well for others here..

Any suggestions.. I have been refilling my own ink cartridges now for over 13 years... Canon's, HP's and Lexmarks ...this is the first Epson printer that I have ever purchased.

--David

[sandralink]

The better choice is from InkRepublic.com

I used eBay's CIS a while ago, it was working fine, but cannot last than few months. After that, it ruined my epson printer.

I am using Epson R800 with InkRepublic.com R800 ink kit. It keep working very well without any big issue.

If you are looking for the better R220 CIS, I suggest you taking a look on their system

http://www.InkRepublic.com/ProductDetail.asp?item=R200

The last 3 pictures are showing Epson R220 and their CIS system.

Most of CIS makers are modifying epson's cartridge design, make it as spongeless and put a tube on top of the cartridge. That's a cheap solution and can get into the market quickly. However, it is very possible to clog the print head or have the air gap inside the tube. It is because the tube is attached on cartridge by glue, and it would be "pop-up" easily.

InkRepublic's tube and cartridge have different way to connect to each other, that's why it can provide better ink flow rate and can be used longer than regular CIS.

the filter is another key point too. Some CIS do not have filter, they just simply make the cartridge clear. The ink would easily drain into printer.

In short, if you want to install CIS, you'd better stay away from cheap one.

I went ahead and purchased an Epson R220.
Any suggestions.. I have been refilling my own ink cartridges now for over 13 years... Canon's, HP's and Lexmarks ...this is the first Epson printer that I have ever purchased.

--David

[DavidEC]

The better choice is from InkRepublic.com

I used eBay's CIS a while ago, it was working fine, but cannot last than few months. ...

Thanks for the link... I guess that I should add I will not pay more than what it would cost me to replace the cartridges or the printer... so that puts a limit of $70ish to my purchase.

And since all but one of the eBay systems that I viewed claim to use clear spongless auto set cartridges. the question of hose connection and ink filtering comes up. hose connection should be no biggie that a little bit of super-glue and a drop of hot melt glue should seal the hose to the cartridge... so the only other question is...

Is sediment / dirt really an issue with this systems?? and wouldn't a inline filter like used on may fuel powered RC models (about $3 each) now days work or would this cause too much back pressure to allow free flow of the ink?

--David

[Idle]

So long as you use clean equipment to fill your bottles and reasonable quality ink, sediment isn't an issue with the dye inks -- it can be with pigment inks if they're allowed to settle for quite a while, but it's rare with regularly used printers.

All the CIS systems I've seen lately (the Chinese ones, at least) have a dust filter on the air intake of each bottle -- rudimentary, it's true, but they seem quite effective (most of them also incorporate a non-return valve in the filter.)

I wouldn't put filters in the ink lines -- would be more hassle than it's worth, IMHO.

[macrovision]

Hello everyone, I haven't been in here for a while and I cannot talk about the CIS thingy right now because I threw my R200 away today along with my printonadime CIS. I am going to buy a new setup most likely next week, Any way I'm gonna get refillabe carts because cables " Bite ".. I like being able to change a bad cart without problems and/or move the printer without worrying about the Kit. I don't sell DVD's anymore and willl use the carts for photo's ( Most likely expensive ink's if " Sams Club " doesn't work out ( the stratitec inks ). I work soooo much I haven't been in here for about 6 month's due to 16 hour days ( 9 at the Company and 6 Hrs. commute ) that's 15 but between starbucks and Huffing a Cig, window shopping,Ect. 16 Hrs. I leave home at 6:00am and get home at about 9:30pm. Any suggestions on empty blank carts?...Other than the printonadime carts? And before I go, any probems arose from the disconnection of the green line cable Mod ?
Thanks in advance.
Mac!

[gumby]

Hi again;

I posted on a few forums requesting help regarding a NexxTech CISS purchased from the Source(Radio Shack)

This post will conclude them all for now as I have found a solution to my immediate problem.

I knowingly purchased the CISS knowing it was listed for an Epson R200. My printer was an R220! If I knew as much about printers generally, then, as I do now, I would not have tried to use it.
Although information from NexxTech was nearly non existent, their product support was 100%. In spite of the fact it was my own fault that I had an inoperative setup, the very understanding clerk who helped me sent a completely new system for me to prove the fault.

Briefly, my trouble was that the printer would not recognize the CISS cartridges. It was an obvious problem with the chipset. Epson was one step ahead of us at this point.

After a lengthy search, making many helpful acquaintances along the way, I found a source for replacement Auto Resetting Chips at a reasonable price. This turned out to be Print on a Dime.com

http://www.printonadime.com/ -----ARC for Epson Stylus Photo R220.

I specified my printer model for clarity.

Their service was helpful, informative and prompt.

When,(IF) I prove my tubing track is correct I'll post photos illustrating the setup I concluded to be most appropriate.

Thank you to all who helped me out. I really appreciate it. It is great that so many make the time to get the rest of us on board, sharing their experiences both good and bad. The alternatives suggested are extremely helpful also.

Thanks again;

Gumby

[habs01]

Hello everyone, I haven't been in here for a while and I cannot talk about the CIS thingy right now because I threw my R200 away today along with my printonadime CIS. I am going to buy a new setup most likely next week, Any way I'm gonna get refillabe carts because cables " Bite ".. I like being able to change a bad cart without problems and/or move the printer without worrying about the Kit. I don't sell DVD's anymore and willl use the carts for photo's ( Most likely expensive ink's if " Sams Club " doesn't work out ( the stratitec inks ). I work soooo much I haven't been in here for about 6 month's due to 16 hour days ( 9 at the Company and 6 Hrs. commute ) that's 15 but between starbucks and Huffing a Cig, window shopping,Ect. 16 Hrs. I leave home at 6:00am and get home at about 9:30pm. Any suggestions on empty blank carts?...Other than the printonadime carts? And before I go, any probems arose from the disconnection of the green line cable Mod ?
Thanks in advance.
Mac!

Hi Macro,

Talk about a commute! 6 hours! Do you even work in the same time zone?

Sorry about your R200, but I guess that's the way mine will eventually finish. Would you beleive I'm still using my original JWSales kit. It's still working fine for what I use it for but my nozzle check tends to be less then perfect most of the times. Even though I treat it like jewelry, I can smell the end.

If I were you I would investigate the Canon Ipixma + refillable alternative. Their owners seem very satisfied and the european models (or american modified -> see ebay) also print DVD's.

If you prefer sticking with Epson, I know Poolenglish loves his Printforless refillables.

[svenno]

This is my first post on this forum, even though it has been my homepage for a very long time. Before I address the CIS topic, I just want to belatedly thank the many contributors (I miss Adam's informative posts) for providing a rich source of learning and enlightenment. The amount and quality of information (especially) here and on other sites more than justifies my monthly internet access bill. I am not a noob and that is due in large part to the willingness of experts to share their knowledge, and in smaller part, my willingness to read. Forums are the lifeblood of the internet, IMO, and this one is the best.

On to the CIS issue. I do a lot of graphics-related projects and that means lots of printing. After using many different printers, I determined that the Epson R200/210/220 printers were the best bang for the buck I could find. Outstanding photo quality prints at a much lower price than their 300 series cousins. Since both series use the same print engine and I prefer editing photos with software applications, the R2xx is a big winner for me.

However, as most of you know, the printer manufacturers give the printers away and charge exhorbitant prices for the ink.

Some simple math:
Epson cartridges for the R2xx printers contain 13ml of ink and cost between $12 and $15 (USD) at most stores. Multiply this cost by 6 cartridges and you have essentially the cost of the printer. In other words, you can almost buy a new R220 (which comes with 6 cartridges) for the price of 6 cartridges (Sam's Club has the R220 for $89 <http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?est=5&item=151401&pCatg=1260>). Once I discovered that most 3rd party cartridges worked satisfactorily for me - at half the cost - I began using them exclusively. Even that got to be expensive after a while. Enter this thread and my current affair with Continuous Ink Supply (CIS) systems.

More simple (and mildly flawed) math:
1 gallon contains 3785.412ml. There are 13ml of ink in an Epson T048xxx cartridge. That equates to 291 cartridges per gallon. At an average cost of $12 per cartridge, a "gallon's" worth would cost approximately $3500.00. What would it cost me to buy a gallon of ink and a CIS system? Granted, 291 Epson cartridges also includes the actual cartridges and chips. However - if you have followed this thread for any length of time, you realize that cartidges and chips are the least expensive component in a CIS system and that leaves ink as the primary cost factor. No matter how you wish to parse it, 291 Epson cartridges are more expensive than oil and many precious metals. What? You would never use 291 cartridges? Did you know that many manufacturers "help" you along this path by consuming up to 7% of your available ink during a cleaning cycle? Change one cartridge and watch the other five lose ink in the process. Everytime you turn on the printer. OK - enough soapbox - on to printonadime.

I finally decided to take the plunge with a CIS and chose printonadime because I found positive posts in forums and because they are located in the US (Maryland). I received my 120ml unit 3 days after ordering it. It came in a professional looking box and that was encouraging. Included was the tank system, hoses, cartridges with chips, ink, and a CD with
everything you needed to know (including a nifty utility for resetting the waste ink counter). Long story short (I know that phrase is waaay out of place in this post) - I screwed things up. Couldn't get the thing to recognize the Magenta cartridge. So I called the company. Got a real person (Emery Nelson) who walked me through a number of fixes. Still no go - so he said he would send a replacement Magenta chip. Came priority mail - 2 days later. Installed it - still wouldn't work. Called him again - he was terrific on the phone - said he would send all new chips. They came 2 days later, I installed them, and it worked perfectly. Yes, I had problems initially, but what excites me about this situation and what really prompted me to post, was the superior experience I had with a small company with big integrity. I "knew" after my initial phone call that I was going to be taken care of to my satisfaction. The prints I get with this system are indistinguishable from Epson original carts. I can print without worrying how much it is costing me per page. I even bought a 2nd system for my
son (R200) and it is working flawlessly. Getting back to the simple math, I can purchase 1 gallon of ink from printonadime for $84. The CIS cost me around $85 (with ink). What was that Epson $$ comparison again?? Bottom line for me - I believe the major printer manufacturers are gouging at a level that makes the oil companies look like amateurs. I refuse to be gouged and am committed to finding reasonable cost alternatives. For some, 3rd party carts are a good compromise (they were for me - up till now). For others, a CIS represents the best bang for the buck. I highly recommend printonadime.com. I don't work for them and have never met Mr. Nelson, but count me a s highly satisfied customer.

I hope this is of some use to those of you contemplating the break from traditional ink consumption.

Thank you videohelp.com for providing a treasure trove of information.

[dun4cheap]

Knock on wood, I have 3 R300s with CIS systems and 1 R200. I use this one here www.matrixink.com which I have been purchasing for $74.99 from ebay from superseller who sells for matrix ink. I have refilled them with costco ink, and the ink that they sell without any problems. My machines have paid for themselves.

I do not work for matrix ink, I have 3 offices going with employees, so I need to keep costs down but poductivity up.

without doing complicated calculations, know that I have saved a lot of money.

[habs01]

I'm always surprised by the number of people who seem to have been watching sliently this forum and all of sudden decide on sharing an experience. I guess that's what keeps this post going. People sharing experiences, community gaining knowledge. Wow, that was deep.

Anyways, Svenno your not the first to praise PrintonaDime and their service, which is all to their honor. For sure, if you do some amount of printing the kit will pay for itself.

Here's a slightly off-subject remark: It seems though as the Epson printheads tend to be more subject to clogging problems than the competition. So I guess what I'm saying here is if someone was to start from scratch, it might be worth exploring CIS soltions for other printer companies.

I suggest when posting the appreciation of a CIS kit, to mention how long the kit has been in operation so we get a sense of how it passes the test of a time too.

[svenno]

habs01 -
I have to agree about the Epson print heads. I have learned the hard way to run a test page at least every other day to avoid clogging. There may be other solutions that are superior to the Epson + CIS. Just haven't found one yet - but everything changes. My system has been running for about 6 weeks - so obviously, no long term data. I guess I was excited just to find that it worked. Will provide feedback in a few months.

[macrovision]

LOL! Habs , FYI. I used the R200 I had for about 6 months without a problem but even more interesting I allowed it to sit for about 3 months without ever turning it on and before I junked it I did a test print with a few lines missing, Reconnected the Greenline hose and ran a clean cycle...and Bam! Perfect nozzel check. The reason why I junked it (as if some forumist here don't know) is because I'm a perfectionist and I had one bad nozzel from my earlier experiments that lead up to the disconnecting the hose Mod, This caused the pad to not dock with the printhead in a corner and when I printed photos I could tell the difference ( In the light ) I let it sit for 3 months because I no-longer sell DVD's. I started a job working Telco. and it takes too much of my time. I love the CIS/Re-Fillable carts thing because the manufacturer's try to screw us without a kiss or saying Good-Night and My Freinds That is not Honorable...Are we related to Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Or some Arabian King? For a person like myself I can see the difference in OEM ink from Epson however I'm sure there's some kind of gloss that soluable with the ink and the bonding causes the ink to look a bit better, this is Subtle unless your a perfectionist. I really junked the R200 because I don't use it and I moved...Taking it with me would have been a burden and now with what I've learned I can start fresh with an R320. ( I learned the printer CAN sit for months without perishing and to allow it to charge the carts then disconnect the green-lined hose ) I can still see my Warning for the earlier days..What's with that? Much Love For this forum and everone that contributes to it!

[habs01]

LOL. My arabian king relative doesn't return my calls and uncle Bill and I aren't talking to each other since the Windows Vista incident...

I'm not all that surprised about your three months wait story. I have a similar story. I actually have two working R200. One I thought was fubar because I tried to refill the original carts (what a joke/mess that was) and then did all sorts of non cosher things to and the other I bought to replace it. Turns out that the first R200 "fixed" itself after sitting three weeks idle.

Even though your one serious comuter, try to check in once in a while and let us know how the R320 experience goes.

[born2blove]

Please some one help me with my Epson R200
I bought my JLWsale on May 2005 I using until Sept-2005 I buy 1 refill Ink from JLWsale.

now I got the problem 1 of my magenta cartridge can not suck the ink from ink tank into cartridge.
I read some in this forum, last night I took out all 6 cartridge anhd use windex to clean 6 pin on the printer I let it seat 8 hrs, this morning i try to put all 6 cartridge back anh try to run clean head seam like in suck thi ink from the tank into the cartridge very good. but when I start sprint couple dvd label, I look at the ink tub i see too much bubble in the tub. I look at the tub no broken or leaked.
any one know what happen with my cartridge.
some one know where is the ink clog, I mean it clog from the cartridge or clog from the printer.

what sould I do to fix this problem.
do I need to repalce new cartridge
can I tempolary use 5 ink from JLWsale and 1 from epson cartridge. the one from epson cartridge will use for the one not work.

Please give me some Idead which one is the good CIS sytem on the market right now
which cartridge is the best.

finally if i can not fix this problem maybe I will have to got new CIS sytem.

please help

[Chester1971]

@born2blove

My Everest-systems CIS is still running swimmingly, no sign of wear (yet) and all the hoses seem to be holding firm.

The only problem I had was with the waste tank mod, I wondered why the bottle wasn't getting any more ink for a couple of weeks until I realised the tube which I use to siphon the ink into the bottle had come dislodged...big puddle of ink on the floor behind the printer

On another note, if anyone's interested, I purchased Profile Prism and profiled the Everest inks and the results were nothing short of stunning, I hadn't realised the colours were so off but now photos are so much more natural and vibrant, and any hint of a colour cast is gone.

[born2blove]

I has JLWsale CIS form May-2005 It work very good until now. I has problem seam like in the magata ink tub has too much bubble. I read some one post in this forum seam like my tub or cartrigdge has air lead some where, but I check my tub it not leaking any thing.

I emial to JLWsale yesterday but he not give me feedback yet.

[born2blove]

Thank you Chesster1971
Would you please give me a link to Everest system
thank you

[Chester1971]

http://www.everest-team.com

I bought mine from them on ebay, worked out slightly cheaper. I have to admit, I have no idea what their after sales care is like, I've never needed it (which is a good sign I suppose). Also, there's not a hint of clogged nozzles, despite having the printer switched off for up to three weeks at a time.

The ink is OK but not brilliant, I did have to profile the printer/ink/paper to get a really good colour reproduction.

If you do an ebay search for everest-team I'm sure you'll turn up the item...good luck.

[born2blove]

Thank you Chester1971
I read all information in thier webpage seem like it is very good system.
How long did you use everest-team
how much did you pay for it with shippping to US
the everest-team CIS sytem when you buy it.
Do they came with pump tool kit.