The Best CIS ?

[Bodyslide]

Make sure that the cd lid is up when you power the printer on.

[poolenglish]

bugante;

1.shut dvd tray door,
2.unplug power cord and plug back in,
3. make sure the carts are snapped in making good contact,

these are the only things i can think of other than that you are out of paper. GL ;Pool

[bugande]

I got it back alive! I pressed the power on button then held down the paper feed button. It worked. I am now just having trouble with my new carts from waytoprint. I used an extra set of chips I got from jwl a long time ago and it seems the black,cyan,lt mag, and yellow won't work. I have taken the black from the old jwl cis that was working and replaced. Now just need to replace the others to see if it will work. My jwl cis $&!# the bed.

[macrovision]

I have an epson r200 and when powered on the green power light goes off then the ink light and paper light flash on and off. The printer will not respond to anything I try to do. Any help would be great. Thanks.

The issue is called a "General Error". This can be generated from a few different protocol.

First: Make sure if your using a CIS that the hoses aren't too long or too short, The printer monitors the movement of the carraige all the time.

Second: Make sure the dvd tray is close during initalization.

Third: Reset the waste ink counter using the SSC service utility as it's purpose is to shut the printer down when it reaches a certain level preventing waste overflow.

Last but not least: The waste pad movement need be precise, Waste ink will cause it to stick slightly if not completly. You will need to be careful but not a rocket scientist to clean it however you'll need a few basic things.

Windex, paper towels, and a pair of tweezers. Power up the unit and while it's initializing pull the plug from either: The wall or the input in back of the printer. Move the carraige by hand to the left until the waste pad is in seen easily. Break the paper towels into a few pieces about two inches each piece.. fold the pieces in half and fold spray only the one your gonna use while holding it between the tweezer, Use this piece to clean between the waste-pad holder guide slots....The slots are located in two places and are two sided. The first place is at the very top of the holder(to the far right of the printer) it is black so use a flashlight or excellent lighting to see what your doing....clean between them and use your hand to move the holder backwards to clean the front of the back slots. The second set of slots are hard to reach but in the front of the wastepad holder on both sides as well. The pins in the slots are white in color....the white one on the side nearest you softly push it to the left to release the lock mechanisim engaged when you moved the waste pad the first time(Make sure you unlock this before plugging the unit back in)after you clean the guide posts move the carraige back to the far right( locking mechanisim unlocked...waste pad holder down)and plug the printer back in, restart it and see if it'll work. If not call Epson counsumer support. LOL!

[poolenglish]

link to refillable carts http://www.printforless.tk/

I have recieved many pm's about where to buy the refillable (with auto reset) cartridges!

here is the link again

http://www.printforless.tk/

pics and prices are there. If you have specific questions you can e-mail the seller. gl all

printforless@verizon.net


Or call at (603)369-3637



also..... for cannon fans at the same site (cut and paste below)

We have Refillable Smart Cartridges and Ink for Canon IP3000, IP4000, IP5000, IP8500 and others.



We have hard to find CD/DVD Trays for Canon Pixma Series and instructions to make it print on CD/DVD.

[FreeDiver]

MACROVISION....what have you done??? You've abandoned us! I really relied upon your advice for the CIS units and I have just about run out of ink on my stock epson carts and was going to hook up my cis unit, only to find that you've gone Al Qaeda and switched to the other side...sob sob sob....
Oh well, since I paid for it, got to use it. Hope that no matter what, I don't run into any of the problems that some of you have had. Just joking Macro, but will miss your posts since you've gone to the dark side now. :P
LIKE for your info, we locals can spell pretty darn good. Also, I just ordered the Stratitec ink from Sams club and though they state that they don't send outside the continental U.S., they sent it to me without a hitch. Just for anyones info, who was interested in ordering this ink and they lived in Hawaii. Go dive!!!!!!

[FreeDiver]

MACRO one last set of questions before you become a Sith Lord.
Are we now under the consensus that you set up your Cis system, then you hook up a wastebottle on the back and you DON'T REMOVE THE GREEN AND WHITE TUBE? So we're basically just allowing the CIS system to run a cleaning/recharge cycle and wasting a bit of ink, cause it's so that the nozzles don't clog correct?
Also, you mention that to do a complete cleaning, you recommend getting a refill kit and then filling it with solution...what kind of solution? (I think this is somewhat ridiculous to get a refill kit to clean, and a CIS to print..might as well go with the refill system to begin with...but I don't want to get a refill kit!!!!)
If you have to remove your CIS cartridges for any reason, is there any special steps to reinstall your cartridges? Someone mentioned that for the original Epson carts, you would have to "reset" the chips. Do you have to do this as well with the CIS kits, or can you just remove, clean and then reinstall? Oh well, sorry for all the questions, but figured might as well ask before you embrace the dark/Refill side completely. :P

[macrovision]

Freediver, I work a little too much now to post like I used to, Anyway I reccommend removing the green-lined hose if your concerned about ink waste. I don't have a mod waste bottle and I disconnected the black hose under the waste pad....never recconnected because I need cleaning carts....I have a incomplete clog in two nozzles,one on the black head and one on the magenta head....all nozzles fire however these two lines are slightly out of place(For example two magenta lines appear to be connected making the image "One line"...The cleaning carts are carts never used for ink(no cross contamination) and it is filled with print-head cleaning solution. Used to flush old ink out first and left to sit "usually" Overnight to breakup the clogs. The cis carts donot have to be reset if you take them out.....not even the stock carts....stock carts are reset only after the level hits "0"CIS kits usually have auto-reset chips and if you attempt to reset them with a resetter you most likely will destroy them. Now.....Back to the dark side.....

[FreeDiver]

Thanks Macro for the info, always was scared to pull my carts off thinking that I would have to reset....take care and maybe Yoda can bring you back to our side when a better cis systems is made.......May the force be with you... :P

[GizmoTheGremlin]

The U.S. models ave DVD printing disabled but it can be enabled VIA the buttons on the main unit plus...

sorry to hear about your problems, macro. You were talking about the canon disc printer here, and this line really caught my attention. Where is there information about how to make the U.S. version of the printer work on discs?

[GizmoTheGremlin]

nevermind. found the info.

[linfor]

Has anyone tried this system
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6792911057&fromMakeTrack=true

What about the JLW 6th system?
Any feedback on either is appreciated

[Idle]

Appears to be the Toppy-Jess system (check his other items -- some of the pix are still marked as Toppy-Jess.)

Several folk on this thread have them and seem happy.

I'm running one right now that I think is the same one, although from another vendor.

My main gripe with it is that the tubes aren't quite flexible enough, won't lay clear of the case top at the far end (R310) and rub as they go under.

They're probably fine on the R200's.

The JLWsales system that failed on me several months ago has much more flexible tubes and didn't do that -- will probably change them over later on.

Further, the printer refused to recognise the carts when it was installed -- fortunately I had a spare set of chips, put them in and it worked fine thereafter.

The supplier wasn't at all helpful about it once he found I wasn't in the US -- should have stuck to Hong Kong vendors...

Can't help you with the JLWsales version 6 -- would have bought one but already had the current one in transit when it came out.

I do like the general design, though -- so long as he's learned his lesson about using cheap & nasty cartridges.

[macrovision]

Idle,(Don't take this the wrong way)I love you, man!....I remember all the trouble I had when I began to post about the cart design on the JLW CIS....Fellow forumist didn't accept the possibility that maybe I had their best interest in mind and wasn't posting the negative because I worked for some other vendor. Anywho, I'm considering placing an order for a new printhead just for the hell of it as I'm not sure if I want to purchase an auto-dupilicator....I want to, but I'm not sure it's gonna be worth it(Financially)...How long before I make my money back($2800)being I'm not home most of the time and my job is straight work...all day...far from my home? I wanna fix the one I have just for old times sake(repair work)...even though the prints look perfect, two lines are connected in the nozzle check....I love details...as if everyone here didn't already know...that's My pet peeve.

[linfor]

Macro,
Which system would you recommend that is cheaper than JLW? Or would you like Pool suggest going with refillable?

[macrovision]

linfor.....The other page you posted on....Go back to it for the answer and be careful around here...the moderators do not allow double posts...JFYI/LOL!

[poolenglish]

Macro,
Which system would you recommend that is cheaper than JLW? Or would you like Pool suggest going with refillable?

beware of one(1) hole.. (spongless) carts, ...as some people recommend.

they cannot be easily and/or cleanly refilled without removing the cart and this will cause wear and tear on the delicate pin connectors...when refilling. If you break a pin the printer is trashed!

[macrovision]

EDIT:


Poolenglish is correct...however to be more truthful I do not trust the ad that states the carts I recommended really are refillable in the printer...the ad may not be 100% true...I recommended those carts on the web page that has many other items and those items are priced within reason. If linfor has $80 to spare for empty blanks then of couse I recommend...recommend....recommend the exact carts Poolenglish recommended...do doubt! http://www.printforless.tk

[poolenglish]

EDIT:


Poolenglish is correct...however to be more truthful I do not trust the ad that states the carts I recommended really are refillable in the printer...the ad may not be 100% true...I recommended those carts on the web page that has many other items and those items are priced within reason. If linfor has $80 to spare for empty blanks then of couse I recommend...recommend....recommend the exact carts Poolenglish recommended...do doubt! http://www.printforless.tk

actually the seller( http://www.printforless.tk ) gave me 600ml of ink with the carts for $80, i think the carts alone are $60 shipping included.

[bidefordboy]

Just thought I would give prospective purchasers some advice, if they were thinking about purchasing the same CIS that I have. (See my previous posts).
My system was purchased from a seller using the name 'Toppy-Jess' (real name YUEN LI), who does not have any items for sale on Ebay at the moment.
The same system is being advertised on Ebay by someone using the name 'inkexpress4u'. The layout of the ad etc. is identical to the 'Toppy-Jess' ad, with the same items being offered for sale. As Idle said, some of the items even have the 'Toppy-Jess' logo on them.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Epson-R1800-R800-Bulk-Continuous-Ink-System-CIS_W0QQitemZ679322360...QQcmdZViewItem

But if you check the sellers ID history there is no mention of the name 'Toppy-Jess' which is strange.
Also the seller has had 52 negative feedbacks in the last twelve months which is not good.
I would suggest that if you are going to purchase this system that you purchase it from 'print on a dime' who have a 100% positive feedback rating.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Epson-R200-R300-Bulk-Continuous-Ink-Refill-System-CIS_W0QQitemZ679...QQcmdZViewItem

The system has been in my printer (which is used every day) for almost four months, & has caused me no problems (other than the wrong chips).
My tubing is just as flexible as the tubing on my previous JLW system was. My printer is the R300 & no problems with rubbing tubing. Not sure if Idle's system is exactly the same one. Perhaps you could post the sellers name Idle, then I could check.


UPDATE.

Sorry. Have just checked with 'printonadime'. They only stock the 40ml & 100ml systems.

[Idle]

My system came from InkJetsUSA -- the tubing rubs because it's just a little on the stiff side, which increases the arc at the far end of the carriage stroke.

The tubing on the old JLWSales one is noticeably more flexible, so its own weight pulls it down just far enough to clear the cover.

[jakol]

i'm glad I got the refillable carts its really headache free when refilling, no mess no fuss..just straight forward refilling, i use blunt needle to refill.
Anyway I think we need to start a new thread "the Best Generic Ink" or something, I've been trying the Costco ink made here in US by IMS and its not that good, esp the black ink. its print creates some horizontal banding. Nozzle check comparizon of Original Epson Ink and IMS generic ink is very different,Epson ink horizontal and vertical lines are really straight, whereas IMS ink is not, the vertical lines are kind of wavy and horizontal line prints has ghost lines,plus you have to select the best photo print with microweave just to make a decent print which uses more ink thus defeating its purpose in the first place...Save money

Ill be gratefull if anyone can recommend a really good generic r200 ink.

cheers ....happy printing.

[Idle]

Ill be gratefull if anyone can recommend a really good generic r200 ink.

Check out www.inkjetsusa.com.

The ink he sent me with the CIS is one of the best matches I've seen (and I've been refilling cartridges for over a decade.)

Text, photo's and CD's all look really good from my R310. should be the same from an R200.

He's in Vegas, I think (at least, that's what his Ebay ad's say...)

BTW, I suspect the R200-300 printers are about to be superseded -- prices have dropped dramatically here in the last two weeks, the R210 can be found for about $20 more than what Epson want for its carts, and the 310 is cheaper than the 210 was a month ago.

[macrovision]

Sorry I haven't been around fellow forumist, I've been working sooo much lately "It's sad". Haven't done but three DVD's this week....Isn't that sad? Anyway, LOL!

[FreeDiver]

Hay, here's a questionfor someone to answer. I had bought a R200 a couple of months ago and within the first month or so, I had some problems so I called the Epson tech line and was told that I should not leave my power on unless I'm using my printer. They told me to turn it off, because if I leave the power on and then leave it idle, it'll dry out the print heads and cause my printer to break....any advice on this folks?

[macrovision]

Freediver, FYI....take this anyway you want. The printhead parks in the same manner whether or not it's on. Yeah...it caps with the waste pad when idle in the same manner it does during power off. I leave mines on and had it on for about three months without incident. However when you power off it writes to the smartchip!!!!!!?????? Sounds familiar?

[Idle]

What they're talking about is that when you leave it on the power supply and other parts of the circuit are live -- some bits run quite hot -- and this must heat the entire machine a bit.

How much this will affect the ink supply is moot, of course.

I've noticed you seem to get more head cleans if you turn it off -- this has applied to every Epson I've had -- but it doesn't happen every time you start the machine, most times it just checks the device status (which many users mistake for a head clean.)

Against that, leaving it on 24/7 adds a bit to your utility bill, and there's always the risk of a power surge in the night...

[shtrpumf]

Just saw this kits on ebay for my Girlfriend canon ip 3000

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6795320662

poolenglish it is similar to what they sell at http://www.printforless.tk

[RickTheRed]

Ok,
I have decided not to fix my 1st generation JLW CIS and I have ordered the following refillable cartridge kit:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6796843942
I will let you know later.

The same kit is being sold by different sellers from China. Pretty weird but let's see how it goes.
I have already received the instructions. Refilling looks pretty simple but initial set-up is a bit more complicated.

[macrovision]

I understand that refillables are better for infrequent print jobs however you may wanna try the carts that indicate how much ink is left in the carts because "Blind"refilling has it's downtime. POOLENGLISH! :P