Is this a failing PSU or something else? Man I need help!

[mattyboy]

Using decrypter and mcc004 (verbatim 16x) I cant hit 16x, and at around 12-13x the buffers goes nuts and go down. It wont go past 13x when burning a 4.5GB dvd. I really need help on this. What can be causing the issue?
This happens with all 3 of my burners.

[rkr1958]

Since you're hitting 12-13x I'd say you're harddrive(s) are in DMA mode. But worth a check to make sure they're in DMA and not PIO.

Is your harddrive badly fragmented? Might try defragmenting it.

Can you get 16x write speeds with other media? Might be the media.

To be honest I'm happy getting 8x write speeds (I use 8x TY02 media). I can't image what it's like to get 16x. Good luck.

[mattyboy]

damn it

[mattyboy]

Actually nothings fine it seems fine for that one disc, but now nothings better. it still cant 16x. Stuck at 13x. DAMN IT!
Can anyone comment.

[mattyboy]

Well just before I went to reinstall my OS, I was picking around in BIOS and I changed the IDE "arrangement" to auto instead of "combined" or "enhanced" and it seems to make it better.
I dont have any more 16x discs left, but I do have some TY dvd+R 8x, which burn at 16x on 2 of my burners. Heres the text, what do you pros think:
I 22:58:18 Destination Device: [3:1:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG 2.18 (F (ATA)
I 22:58:18 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: YUDEN000-T02-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x)
I 22:58:18 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 22:58:18 Write Mode: DVD
I 22:58:18 Write Type: SAO
I 22:58:18 Write Speed: 16x
I 22:58:18 Link Size: Auto
I 22:58:18 Test Mode: No
I 22:58:18 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 22:58:18 Filling Buffer...
I 22:58:19 Writing LeadIn...
I 22:58:41 Writing Image...
I 23:04:01 Synchronising Cache...
I 23:04:02 Closing Track...
I 23:04:17 Finalising Disc...
I 23:04:39 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:17
I 23:04:39 Average Write Rate: 13,997 KB/s (10.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 21,243 KB/s (15.3x)

Not 16x but they aren't rated at 16x, so thats close enough right? The 16x verbatim were only hitting 13x before.

[mattyboy]

I CANT BELIEVE NOBODY CAN GIVE A RESPONSE TO THIS ANYMORE!!!
IF SOMEONE ASKS SOMETHING AS TRIVIAL AS WHERE TO BUY SCREWS FOR INSTALLING THEIR NEW BURNER IN THEIR PC CASE A DOZEN PEOPLE JUMP AT THE CHANCE TO POST LINKS. WTF!!

[jimmalenko]

Settle down, buddy. Perhaps no-one knows the answer ?

Is the extra 90-120 seconds extra (at the ABSOLUTE most) that it takes you to burn at 13X that critical ??? The reality is that your drive only hits your max speed for about the last third of the disc, so it's probably even less time than that. I'd be more concerned about getting good quality burns than shaving 90 seconds of my burn times

Obviously you must have a bottleneck somewhere between your hard drive, IDE channels and your burner. I guess you'd look at DMA mode for both burner and hard drive, or possibly shutting down every non-essential program running on your PC.

[Ma_Jie]

Relax man.

Run a Burst Rate test using Nero CD-DVD Speed and post the results.

- Jie

[mattyboy]

Settle down, buddy. Perhaps no-one knows the answer ?

Is the extra 90-120 seconds extra (at the ABSOLUTE most) that it takes you to burn at 13X that critical ??? The reality is that your drive only hits your max speed for about the last third of the disc, so it's probably even less time than that. I'd be more concerned about getting good quality burns than shaving 90 seconds of my burn times

Obviously you must have a bottleneck somewhere between your hard drive, IDE channels and your burner. I guess you'd look at DMA mode for both burner and hard drive, or possibly shutting down every non-essential program running on your PC.

Its not critical to my life, but its critical to the fact that I need to know if the $70 I spend on the burner, should be refunded.

[mattyboy]

Relax man.

Run a Burst Rate test using Nero CD-DVD Speed and post the results.

- Jie

Burst rate is fine 26mb/s. Thats not it. My DMA's are all good to go, my HD is a 10,000 rpm SATA, and I have a GB of RAM.
The buffers go nuts at 13x or so then lock down the spped to 12x for the last 55%-60% of the burn.
And again, before everyone who still has a 2x burner jumps in here and starts nagging at me that Im "obsessed" with speed cause I want my 16x dvd burner and 16x dvdR's to burn at 16x like I thought they would, please spare me.

[budz]

Relax man.

Run a Burst Rate test using Nero CD-DVD Speed and post the results.

- Jie

Burst rate is fine 26mb/s. Thats not it. My DMA's are all good to go, my HD is a 10,000 rpm SATA, and I have a GB of RAM.
The buffers go nuts at 13x or so then lock down the spped to 12x for the last 55%-60% of the burn.
And again, before everyone who still has a 2x burner jumps in here and starts nagging at me that Im "obsessed" with speed cause I want my 16x dvd burner and 16x dvdR's to burn at 16x like I thought they would, please spare me.

yup i agree you're obsessed with speed. if you're unsatisfied with the drive then get your $70.00 back. it's tiresome to see people think every burner will burn 16x speed throughout the burning process. As for the buffer going nuts my BENQ does the same but it doesn't affect the playback quality of the disc. You want a steady buffer then get a PLEXTOR drive. My PLEXTOR 708A drive is the only burner that the buffer is steady freddy at 92.

[jimmalenko]

And again, before everyone who still has a 2x burner jumps in here and starts nagging at me that Im "obsessed" with speed cause I want my 16x dvd burner and 16x dvdR's to burn at 16x like I thought they would, please spare me.

It's not about that, mate. The simple fact is that 16X means 16X MAX, not 16X for the whole burn

[mattyboy]

Ok I give up. You guys like to think your experts and say the same thing to people over and over. I never said I was unhappy because I cant get it to burn all the way through at 16x. I know that dvds dont start and end at 16x for burning. It hits 16x for moments ONLY> If you werent so concerned with the fact that you think you know everything here, and if 50% of your posts werent to point out what "other " people dont know and how "annoyed" you get with "noobs who just dont get it" than youd might learn something else.
Once again, If you CAN read go to the top and read the posts, youll see I never said any of that.
If my 16x drive CANNOT hit 16x, AT ALL THEN IT MIGHT BE DYING AND I WANT TO GET MY MONEY BACK BEFORE THE 7 DAYS I HAVE TO RETURN IT IS UP.

You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning. Calm down, please. There is no need to be abusive to the people who are trying to help you.
/ Moderator Cobra

[This warning will not be removed without further discussion]

[mattyboy]

Relax man.

Run a Burst Rate test using Nero CD-DVD Speed and post the results.

- Jie

Burst rate is fine 26mb/s. Thats not it. My DMA's are all good to go, my HD is a 10,000 rpm SATA, and I have a GB of RAM.
The buffers go nuts at 13x or so then lock down the spped to 12x for the last 55%-60% of the burn.
And again, before everyone who still has a 2x burner jumps in here and starts nagging at me that Im "obsessed" with speed cause I want my 16x dvd burner and 16x dvdR's to burn at 16x like I thought they would, please spare me.

yup i agree you're obsessed with speed. if you're unsatisfied with the drive then get your $70.00 back. it's tiresome to see people think every burner will burn 16x speed throughout the burning process. As for the buffer going nuts my BENQ does the same but it doesn't affect the playback quality of the disc. You want a steady buffer then get a PLEXTOR drive. My PLEXTOR 708A drive is the only burner that the buffer is steady freddy at 92.

Its tiresome to see people like you glace over threads and offer no helpful input, just your pointless opinion that doesnt even reflect the content of what was asked. Your history in particular is littered with that behaviour. Can you read?

[Ma_Jie]

mattyboy (or should I call you boobytrap?), chill out man. People are tryingt to help you out, and guys like budz and jim have contributed a heck of a lot to these forums, so you should hardly be critical of them.

If you don't like it, take it back — it's as simple as that.

- Jie

[jimmalenko]

Ok I give up. You guys like to think your experts and say the same thing to people over and over. I never said I was unhappy because I cant get it to burn all the way through at 16x. I know that dvds dont start and end at 16x for burning. It hits 16x for moments ONLY> If you werent so concerned with the fact that you think you know everything here, and if 50% of your posts werent to point out what "other " people dont know and how "annoyed" you get with "noobs who just dont get it" than youd might learn something else.
Once again, If you CAN read go to the top and read the posts, youll see I never said any of that.
If my 16x drive CANNOT hit 16x, AT ALL THEN IT MIGHT BE DYING AND I WANT TO GET MY MONEY BACK BEFORE THE 7 DAYS I HAVE TO RETURN IT IS UP.

Drives don't die within 7 days. The behavior your burner is exhibiting sounds perfectly normal to me, and if anything, the lack of time spent actually burning at 16X is more than likely caused by YOUR PC setup. If you don't believe me, exchange your burner for another one and see if it does the same thing. Methinks it will

Either that or put your burner in someone else's computer and see if it works. Then you can identify if it's your burner or your PC.


... but whatever you do, stop being an ungrateful, whiny little bitch. Let's see who wants the help here - YOU. I don't think you can be a chooser, especially when it's free

[budz]

Its tiresome to see people like you glace over threads and offer no helpful input, just your pointless opinion that doesnt even reflect the content of what was asked. Your history in particular is littered with that behaviour. Can you read?

the pointless threads you posted on the BENQ FORUM is just the same as here. the history that you have is if you don't like the replies to your questions then you go to other forum sites and post the same thing. lmfao return your drive if you think it's not up to your STANDARDS. we've all gave our opinions and if you don't like them that's fine, no freeking loss to me. you sure you're not jimmyplexed or newtoburners at the cdfreaks.com forums?????? :P :P :P

[rkr1958]

I CANT BELIEVE NOBODY CAN GIVE A RESPONSE TO THIS ANYMORE!!!
IF SOMEONE ASKS SOMETHING AS TRIVIAL AS WHERE TO BUY SCREWS FOR INSTALLING THEIR NEW BURNER IN THEIR PC CASE A DOZEN PEOPLE JUMP AT THE CHANCE TO POST LINKS. WTF!!

I responded in less than 45-minutes to your initial post ... no acknowledgement from you at all ... what am I ... chop liver?

[mattyboy]

Sorry dude, I appriciate what you wrote and that you responded. Thanks!

[mattyboy]

Drives don't die within 7 days.

RIIIGHT they dont eh? OK I edited this post out of respect to the forum in general, since your posts have been insults and factless, (drives dont die in a week??)
Any mod can feel free to close this since no one is giving real info.

[jimmalenko]

1. I guess you'd look at DMA mode for both burner and hard drive

2. possibly shutting down every non-essential program running on your PC.

3. exchange your burner for another one and see if it does the same thing

4. put your burner in someone else's computer and see if it works

There's 4 tips. Take it or leave it.

I wouldn't be biting the hand that feeds me if I were you

[Cobra]

mattyboy,

You need to sort your attitude out. You are recieving free help here. You aren't paying for it. Don't complain if you don't get exactly what you wanted. If you want to do that, go away and phone the technical support line for the relevant manufacturer.

Thanks to all in this thread who have been patient!

On that note, this thread is now locked to prevent any fights.

Cobra
Forum Moderator