First Attempt At DVD Back-Up Failed - Why?

[Vance]

I just tried my first back-up - The Incredibles - and something didn't work right.

I have an NEC ND-3500AG DVD Writer and I followed the steps for "DVD Copying Guides - DVD9 using DVDShrink method" found on digitalFAQ.com and while the back-up will run fine on my computer, my stand-alone player tells me that "playback is not possible".

Any suggestions as to what the problem might be? Did I not get rid of the copy protection correctly?

Since I am pretty new at this, I am beginning to think that maybe I should just buy a ripping software like AnyDVD to be able to make back-ups. Suppose to be quick and easy - which I like, but it's not free - which I don't like. It took me about 3 hours to rip and shrink following the digitalfaq.com guide and that's another thing I don't really like.

Any and all help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Vance

[waheed]

Try using different media.
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[waheed]

For ripping, use DVD Decrypter

[Ward River]

Just go download the latest version of DVDDecrypter and you'll be good to go. Rip it to the HD then back it up with DVD Shrink. Select the option to create an ISO file and burn with DVDDecrypter. You'll be golden, trust me

[Vance]

I am trying another back up with the latest DVD Decrypter and when I did this, it only produced a Video_TS file. Should there not be a Audio_TS file as well or is that something that DVD Shink adds? Also, what I've have read so far suggested that I create, under MODE in DVD Decrypter, a "File". Ward is recommending that I create an ISO file. What's the difference? If an ISO file is the better choice, do I use Read or Write? Finally, I don't see an option to burn with DVD Decrypter. Where do I find that option?

I sure hope this stuff gets easier and less complicated as I learn more about this. :P

Thanks,
Vance

[Ward River]

Rip it with DVDDecrypter in ISO mode. Use Daemon Tools to mount the ISO image file. Open DVD Shrink and browse to the ISO file by clicking "Open Disc" in Shrink. The mounted ISO will show up just like another drive in Windows. (it's a virtual drive). Click Backup button in Shrink and on the first tab of the window that pops up select the option to create an ISO & burn with DVDDecrypter. After it's finished making the ISO DVDDecrypter will launch automatically. (probably should close DVDDecrypter after you finish ripping the source DVD to HD) Put a blank DVD in your burner and the software does the rest.

Your question Re: AUDIO_TS folder necessary - the AUDIO_TS folder is in the DVD-Video specification and all players should function just fine with this (empty) folder. Some older players may have a problem playing DVDs that don't have this folder, but I personally have never come across a player that wouldn't play a DVD that didn't have that AUDIO_TS folder. Some of the newer movies these days don't even have them, so make of it whatever you will.

[mats.hogberg]

In my experience, I've never come across a DVD that wouldn't copy with DVDShrink. It's as close to a nobrainer as you're ever likely to get.
Only brain labor involved, is deciding "should I do a full backup, or reauthor main title only?"

/Mats

[Abond]

I am trying another back up with the latest DVD Decrypter and when I did this, it only produced a Video_TS file. Should there not be a Audio_TS file as well or is that something that DVD Shink adds? Also, what I've have read so far suggested that I create, under MODE in DVD Decrypter, a "File". Ward is recommending that I create an ISO file. What's the difference? If an ISO file is the better choice, do I use Read or Write? Finally, I don't see an option to burn with DVD Decrypter. Where do I find that option?

I sure hope this stuff gets easier and less complicated as I learn more about this. :P

Thanks,
Vance

It assign the ripped files to Video_ts folder simply for convenience (you can point it to any other folder).
Audio_TS is added from DVDShrink to improve compatibility.
File mode is when DVD Decrypter rip all files in Video_TS folder - usually when you try to make full back-up (not only movie, but also all menus and extras)
ISO Read mode will make only one big iso file - this is DVD image file that content inside all the files and their structure.
ISO Write is to burn the iso DVD image to disc.
And Mats is correct about DVDShrink.
Ah, and the answer to the title of the topic - because it is the first

[Vance]

I did as Mr. River suggested and it worked perfectly.

Now that I know how to do that, I have another question for ya'll.

I still have the ripped files that I took from The Incredibles - both the AUSIO_TS and the VIDEO_TS and since they are already ripped and shranked, I am assuming that I can just go back into DVD Shrink and do another back up with it set for an ISO File & Burn with DVD Decrypter? Does this sound about right?


Thanks,
Vance

[dvdguy4]

Why go to great length . All you need is the VIDEO_TS folder. Either use RecordNow or Nero. Nero will automaticly put in a AUDIO_TS folder for you and Record now wont but burns only the VIDEO_TS folder which is all you need to burn anyway

[mats.hogberg]

Backing up a DVD5 (be it commercial, homebrew or backup) is best done with DVDecrypter, ISO Read, ISO Write. Unbeatable for speed and accuracy. Beware tho, that backups (on inferior media) may show read errors that make it impossible to copy, yet play without errors.
<edit>Ah - you still have the ISO I see (I think) In that case, yes, you can just reburn the ISO created by DVDShrink again and again and again and... until you've depleted the DVD-R stock of the known universe. </edit>

/Mats

[jimmalenko]

Use Daemon Tools to mount the ISO image file. Open DVD Shrink and browse to the ISO file by clicking "Open Disc" in Shrink. The mounted ISO will show up just like another drive in Windows.

... or you could just go to File > Open Disc Image, and open the ISO directly in DVDShrink without needing Daemon Tools at all

[Vance]

Ya'll have been a tremendous help and I do appreciate it.

DVDguy4, for some reason the very first attempt at making a backup created both the Video_TS and the Audio_TS files and would play perfectly on my computer. However, when I tried to run it thru either of my stand-alones, I got all kind of error messages such as I needed to insert a playable disk or that the ply feature would not work. So apparently the way I did the original backup was not exactly right.

Again, I really appreciate all the help ya'll have offered. This is one more hurdle that has been overcome and I am sure there will be many more as I tried to learn as much about this as I can.

Vance