DVD Shrink takes up to 8 hours!?!?

[Icetoken]

I have a PC That's a PIII with 384Mb of Ram. I used DVD Decryptor to Rip files on to my Hard Drive that takes normally around 45min. I used DVD Shrink 3.2 and it'll Analyze for about an hour and a half and then Encode for anywhere from 6 to 8 hours! If I do it on my new 1.60Ghz/512Mb Ram laptop, it pretty much skips the Analyze part and only takes about and hour and 45min to shrink. I've checked the settings on both machine's. Is there anything I can do on my PC (since that's the one that has the DVD Burner) to speed up the process, or is there another faster way of doing this? I've heard it doesn't take other's this long to Shrink on their PIII's. Keep in mind, I do the whole disk including the Extra's and Menu. Thanks.

[HatchetMan]

Sorry, but it's time to upgrade to a newer PC with a fast processor, lots of memory and a fat hard drive or 2.

[Shocker Milwaukee]

Is there anything I can do on my PC (since that's the one that has the DVD Burner) to speed up the process?

More horsepower.

[Cinemagic]

Ctl-Alt-Del to open task manager and see what's running that you don't know about or need. Run anti-spyware (such as the free Search & Destroy) program to make sure that your system is not infected. Check with anitvirus software as well. If you are running Norton or McAfee, then turn it off completely and better yet uninstall it altogether and get something that does not bog down the computer (like Trend's PC_cillin). Even for a slower computer, that's too long. You've got something that's taking up too much system resources.

[jtoolman2000]

Yes, as stated, your system just doesn't have what it takes. My Old P3 would choke trying to this kind of work. With a good fast modern machine you ought to be able to rip/analyze/Transcode to ISO all in DVDShrink ( no extra qualtity settings ) and burn in DVDDecrypter in way less than an hour. That is mostly doing movie only back ups and sassuming you have a moder up to date burner and good media like TY. A DVD5 to DVD-R backup ( no analyzing or transcoding required- basically it is just ripping ) will only take me about 20-25 mins. This hobby requires certain minimums in Hardware. Never go for the Minimums. Try to max these as best you can afford or you will not be satisfied.

[gguerra3]

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[SCDVD]

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Get it?

[Xylob the Destroyer]

...With a good fast modern machine you ought to be able to rip/analyze/Transcode to ISO all in DVDShrink ( no extra qualtity settings ) and burn in DVDDecrypter in way less than an hour. ...

my machine is NO WHERE NEAR top of the line or "new" and I can do this in under 30 minutes
it usually takes about 20 minutes from the time I open DVDShrink until I have a completed back-up in my hand

it's time to shoot your mule and sell him to the glue factory

[sanjayk]

Icetoken, I would stick to the fact you do need a faster PC. PIII just doesnt have it in it to do audio video crunching.

Just go & buy a new one. Trust me you'll be better off.

[Richard_G]

I would agree that part of the problem is the low spec of the machine, but even then, it is still taking way too long. I have done a rip, transcode main movie only and save to iso in well under an hour on my daughters machine. Spec for that is Athlon 600 and 256Mb of RAM.

[steve2713]

Length (not size) of the DVD content will have a big effect on the time it takes as well. A 7gb disc with 6 hours of video content will take much longer than a 7gb disc with 2 hours of content, for example.

[noki]

Yes, as stated, your system just doesn't have what it takes. My Old P3 would choke trying to this kind of work.

yes, but not all people have issues with the OLDER systems. Speed-wise, definitely. Instablity, not always.
I have a P3-933, 512M RAM. I will run 5 (yes, FIVE) instances of DVDShrink 3.2 (last one running in low priority mode and set to shut down after completion) before going to bed. In the morning my machine is asleep with five shrunken videos for me to burn. My usual setting is either the default (sharp) or slower (smooth, max smooth).

All things being equal, and if processing time is not an issue go with MAX SMOOTH. takes a hell of a long time on my system but for large movies. even if the movie will need very little compressing if time is NOT an issue go with this setting. it will be overkill, but so what. you are not sitting in front of the computer screen, are YOU??

the logic follows as such (IMHO)....

---a movie (regardless of it's original size) set at either of these 3 settings (max sharp, sharp, smooth) will NEVER be of higher quality than if you had used Max Smooth. But it might very well look the same (if compression is small) regardless of which setting you used.

so you ask yourself, should I have spent 5 hours transcoding the movie @ Max Smooth if 1 hour @ Sharp would have given the same result???

BOTTOM LINE.....if you are UNSURE as to which setting is best, AND time is NOT a consideration.....use the MAX SMOOTH setting. Using these 2 factors as a guideline, it makes no logical sense to use anything but the MAX SMOOTH setting.

Mathematically it looks like this....

MAX_SMOOTH > SMOOTH > SHARP > MAX_SHARP

NOTE 1: THE > SIGN above should be greater-than-or-equal-to. I tried the ASCI code of ALT-242 and the preview looked good, but once posted on the forum was not accepted.


NOTE 2: the heavier emphasis is on the TIME factor.

'nuff said .

[handyguy]

U mite have it in low priority mode, there are 2 areas for that setting.

[Ward River]

There's some wild boasting going on in this thread.

[Red Barchetta]

Well, getting back to the ORIGINAL question...
Yes it's about time to upgrade - but for now... You never said what clock speed that P3 is, but in any case I would deffinately put more RAM in that thing if you are not going to upgrade any time soon. (and possibly increase your "Virtual RAM" setting).
On a system owned by my brother in law - P3 700mhz CPU, 1gb SDRAM, and Virtual ram set to 768mb (Fixed, so both min. and max. set to 768). A full DVD can be ripped and "shrunk" in about 2 hours.
Still a little slow, but it beats what you got now.

[steve2713]

Red, from his profile:

CPU Speed: PIII 350Mhz

Disturbing, isn't it. :P I think this may explain why it's taking 8 hours.

I didn't even know a PIII went down to 350mhz

[Choptop]

I have a PIII 1.1 with 512 meg
Using shrink it takes about 5 - 8 minutes to analyze.
I haven't actuallly timed it, but it usually takes about 1 1/2 hour to completely finish a new DVD after the analyzing and selecting the main movie.( I don't usually select any extas)

[BSpielbauer]

IceToken:

I agree it is time to upgrade, but your times do seem to be too long, even with the hardware you described.

I am running PIII, as well. It runs at 448 MHZ. I do have more memory than you -- 768 of RAM. Most of my backups use no compression (I prefer to split them to two discs), so this goes much, much fastar, of course, since there is no compression going on at all.

On those rare occasions when I do compress, I have found that my encoding using Shrink runs between 2.5 and 3.5 hours. Slow, but still worlds ahead of where you are. (This is encoding straight from a DVD-Rom drive, with the original disc in it... you are encoding from your hard drive by the time you are using Shrink, which should go faster, I should think).


My "Analyzing" in Shrink lasts perhaps 3.5 to 5 minutes. The fact yours takes so long indicates some sort of a problem, I should think.

I agree you should check to see what is running in the background. Another thing to check -- make certain your IDE/ATA controllers are running in DMA mode (and not in PIO mode), This can change, in certain circumstances, even if you set it correctly way, way back. Anytime you experience a speed change, always check this setting.

-Bruce in Chi-Town

[RMaddog]

Red, from his profile:

CPU Speed: PIII 350Mhz

Disturbing, isn't it. :P I think this may explain why it's taking 8 hours.

I didn't even know a PIII went down to 350mhz

Steve you are right the Pentium III started at 400 MHz and went up to 1.33 GHz. So if he has a 350 MHz it has to be a P II. If he does have a P III and just quoted the wrong MHz, it still on has a 100 MHz FSB. That is one of the problems right there. The number crunching (used to compress video)of the P III compared to a present day Processor is unreal.

Yes he needs a new system.

[steve2713]

Yeah, I thought they started around 450mhz. Considering the 'performance' of yesteryear's 350mhz processors compared to what most of us are using today, it's no suprise to me that it takes 8 hours. Even a fast PIII is even FAR better than what most 350mhz processors can handle.

I can only imagine what it'd be like if I'd ever tried to use DVD Shrink on my old AMD K62 450mhz, 8 hours would probably be reasonable.

[FulciLives]

Until recently I had a PIII 650Mhz with 256MB RAM running WinXP Pro and when I used a transcoder such as DVDShrink I think it took somewhere around 2 hours or so.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[RMaddog]

I think he would get a little better results if the DVD was single layer and no compression had to be done. But when you compress Video it takes a lot of horse power to crunch all them 1's and 0's