GQ with Manufacturer ID: TYG02

[guy001]

I just bought 50 GQ DVD-R 8x Inkjet Printable from Fry's
$17.50 - $10MIR = $7.50 (for 50)
DVDDrecrypter report: Manufacturer ID: TYG02

Is this a good,okay, or bad blank media?
Thanks,

[steve2713]

......that's a trick question. TYG02 is a Taiyo Yuden MEDIA CODE, which is excellent media. HOWEVER, in the case of the GQ discs, it's a FAKE media code, meaning it isn't really TY media.

I've heard mixed results with this fake TY stuff, who knows what it really is... Regardless, it'll probably be marginal media, nothing special by any means but will probably burn decent on some burners, but create coasters on lesser burners.

[lumis]

fry's "GQ" (great quality, hah!) brand media is some of the worst stuff ever.. i learned quite a few years ago when i purchased my first cd burner. i purchased a 50 pack of GQ cd-r's, a quarter of the discs failed to burn, of those that did burn half wouldnt play in my devices, and of the half that did most went bad (very crappy/thin protective coat)..

a friend of mine consulted me a few months ago on buying a 50 pack of the GQ dvd-r's, i told him they were most likely crappy and that he probably shouldnt buy them.. he went ahead and bought them anyways, he soon learned what crap they were.. lots of failures, and skipping towards the end of the disc.. he was using riteks prior to purchasing that pack of discs.. but he wanted to cheap out, but he learned his lesson.

[guy001]

I guess it depends. As I said I already bought GQ 3 times in the pass, 4x, 8x... (100 DVDs) and I did burned over 60 without a coaster yet.
My burner is NEC.
But I don't know in the long run my GQ discs is still viewable or not.

[steve2713]

I know their 8x +Rs are Optodisc OR8, which are actually good discs (unlike all Optodisc -R media I've used, very poor media in comparison).

[lumis]

But I don't know in the long run my GQ discs is still viewable or not.

exactly.. if i were just using these as one-off discs, i could be talked in to it..

[koolaidwa]

I know their 8x +Rs are Optodisc OR8, which are actually good discs (unlike all Optodisc -R media I've used, very poor media in comparison).

actully now there prodisc r03's

i bought a few 50 packs of them and thats what i got

[steve2713]

I know their 8x +Rs are Optodisc OR8, which are actually good discs (unlike all Optodisc -R media I've used, very poor media in comparison).

actully now there prodisc r03's

i bought a few 50 packs of them and thats what i got

I live nowhere near any Fry's, but that's good to hear. I've had good luck with Prodisc media, how reliable are their rebates on these discs? They've had the deals on Outpost.com at times as well, but shipping really removes what would otherwise be great prices.

[koolaidwa]

well truthfully i never send in the media rebates throu fry's lol

i should tho, but never have, i will next time i go down there pick some up and see how well there rebates work for there media

gq is a frys brand if u didnt know

[trhouse]

Fry's also has the same GQ media without the inkjet printable surface for $6.25 - $5 rebate = $1.25 for a 25 pack or $12.50 - $10 rebate = $2.50 for a 50 pack. Prices are good through 3/15/05.

[steve2713]

I live nowhere near any Fry's

Fry's also has the same GQ media without the inkjet printable surface for $6.25 - $5 rebate = $1.25 for a 25 pack or $12.50 - $10 rebate = $2.50 for a 50 pack. Prices are good through 3/15/05.

Gee, why don't you rub it in a little more :P Prodisc for 5 cents a disc, must be nice......Buy me some while you're there! :P

[Ma_Jie]

Does the store have a web site? I'll even order from Canada -- I've never seen discs under 20 cents here, and even the 20 cent discs are unknown generic stuff.

- MJ

[steve2713]

Does the store have a web site? I'll even order from Canada -- I've never seen discs under 20 cents here, and even the 20 cent discs are unknown generic stuff.

- MJ

Outpost.com is their online equivalent. Keep in mind, though, that they are not necessarily one and the same. They'll often have deals in store that aren't on their website, and they ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT pricematch to their store prices for online orders. About a year ago I spoke to the Fry's corporate store, where they'll send out products from their retail locations, however they absolutely positively refused to match their instore sale price for me . In other words, if it's not that price on Outpost.com, forget about trying to get them to match a local store's price.

And keep in mind there's zero guarantee you'll get Prodisc, at this point I think most of the 8x +R media may still be Optodisc OR8, which has been good media for me , despite their -R stuff being bad.

Exhibit A:

http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4075112?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

The 50 pack of 8x +Rs is $29.99 on their site right now, and as I said above you'll only waste your time if you try to get them to pricematch to a local Fry's price.

[trhouse]

DVDInfoPro was used to id these disks. They come up TYG02, same as the original poster except these are a plain silver color with no writing or writing surface. It is limited to one per customer. The sticker on the bulk pack said $29.95 for the 50 pack but it rings up $12.50 at the register.

Their prices on other brand media is pretty good right now too. Both TDK and Fuji X8, dvd-r at at $9.95 for a 25 pack.

A few of these disks have been burned on a Panasonic DMR-E75V. All worked fine. They have been tested on a Toshiba notebook, SR-D5002 and SR-D5272 internal drives, and a Sony NS725P dvd player with no problems.

The price does make one wonder if they are fake Taiyo Yuden, but why would they fake TY and not other manufacturers product?

[koolaidwa]

Outpost.com is their online equivalent. Keep in mind, though, that they are not necessarily one and the same. They'll often have deals in store that aren't on their website, and they ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT pricematch to their store prices for online orders. About a year ago I spoke to the Fry's corporate store, where they'll send out products from their retail locations, however they absolutely positively refused to match their instore sale price for me . In other words, if it's not that price on Outpost.com, forget about trying to get them to match a local store's price.

i guess most people dont know that outpost wont be the same price, as each store has prices to compete with that area stores and prices, as outpost competes with online places like newegg and zzf and so forth, so no u would never get online prices in store or instore prices online



i love frys

i would only buy in store media tho, cause thats where u get the savings

[trhouse]

My feeling about the GQ media is mixed. Earlier some of these disks were burned on a Panasonic DMR-E75V in 2 hour mode with a tape a little over an hour long. The results played on several players. The Panasonic does not fill the dvd-r in two hour mode if there is only 70 minutes of material however.

A new burn was done with the Panasonic in Flexible Recording mode in which it is told how long the recording will be and it adjusts the bit rate to fill about 4 GB of the disk. This disk was tested using DvdInfoPro for speed. The result is below.



It indicates a problem out about 3 GB. Four dvd players were tested at the point of the two anomalies. Two units ( Sony NS725P and Toshiba SD-R5272 with Sonic CinePlayer ) played perfectly. The Panasonic which burned this disk had large blocks in a moving person at the first anomaly and froze at the second. The Toshiba notebook with WinDVD fared the worst. At the position of the first anomaly, it began to skip from chapter to chapter and did not recover.

Verbatim and Ritek disks did not show any anomalies of this size. I would not recommend this media if it is important for the disk to play in a variety of players.

[lordsmurf]

GQ has been buying the cheapest garbage media for it's brand since the early days of CD-R's, back when most of them still cost $2 each.

If you get something "too good to be true" in a GQ brand, it's probably fake.

[trhouse]

At the beginning of this whole computer revolution, there was a company for which Bill Gates developed the BASIC interpreter long ago. The product was the MITS Altair. MITS was accused by some of using a substandard Intel cpu which they hotly denied.

One of my friends from school went to work for Intel. He told me he was the QC engineer who set up the reject part for MITS. The part would work fine unless it got hot. It failed to meet Intel's commercial temperature spec. This thing made me wonder if TY would dump its inferior parts to a labeller like GQ rather than put them in the dumpster.

[steve2713]

trhouse, it's simply a fake media code, don't try to read into it, no offense. There's several other cheapo brands, such as Matrix and Sonic, which also use the fake TY media coded discs. Why fake TY? Because it's TY, that's why. TY is highly regarded, so naturally they'd fake what is maybe the most highly regarded media. One advantage to faking a media code, you can trick your burner into burning it at the FW's TY burning speeds - of course that's probably not a good idea anyway with marginal media like fake TY...

Faking media codes is nothing new, either. I've got a bunch of old fake MXL media coded discs, 1x and 2x discs. They were OK discs, but they were certainly not to be confused with real Maxell discs.

[dmagic1]

I know their 8x +Rs are Optodisc OR8, which are actually good discs (unlike all Optodisc -R media I've used, very poor media in comparison).

actully now there prodisc r03's

i bought a few 50 packs of them and thats what i got

I live nowhere near any Fry's, but that's good to hear. I've had good luck with Prodisc media, how reliable are their rebates on these discs? They've had the deals on Outpost.com at times as well, but shipping really removes what would otherwise be great prices.

Ive gotten Optodisc0R8, ISO1001, and SonyD11 in the printable spindles before.

[cyflyer]

what I can't understand is, with all these 'fake' media codes, why aren't there tons of law suits going about ? Why doesn't TY sue the pants off GQ, or Frys, etc ? This is a serious offence and lots of money at stake here. To me its like some cheapo Chinese beer sticking a Budweiser label on its bottle, or such, and people saying "yuks, Budweiser really sucks. I ain't buying it no more !" Its a clear cut case of Knockoffs.

Why don't customers of Fry's boycot them if they are suspected of selling such 'suspect' crap, and just buy from known and reliable sources such as supermedia or rima. I got a friend who was visiting the US to get me a 100'r of the TY's on offer from supermedia. Great stuff. I'd been real pissed off if it turned out to be cheapo/fake crap.

[steve2713]

Because no one's advertising it as or claiming it to be TY media. If they were, that'd obviously be another story. It's 'JUST' a media code, after all. Joe Blow doesn't know what media codes are or what they represent or what the hell 'Taiyo Yuden' is, he's just buying 'Fuji' and 'Memorex' and 'GQ' discs.

It's an annoyance for those of us that actually know what media codes are to see fake media codes floating around, but, in reality, they can sell discs with WHATEVER media code they want, accurate or not.

Why don't customers of Fry's boycot them if they are suspected of selling such 'suspect' crap, and just buy from known and reliable sources such as supermedia or rima. I got a friend who was visiting the US to get me a 100'r of the TY's on offer from supermedia. Great stuff. I'd been real pissed off if it turned out to be cheapo/fake crap.

Again, there's a difference here. Supermediastore is selling TY as TAIYO YUDEN media, that's what they are selling it as, under the Taiyo Yuden brand. Fry's is selling 'GQ' media, not 'Taiyo Yuden' media. I'm not disagreeing with you that fake media codes are an annoyance, don't get me wrong.

[cyflyer]

still, its rather surprising and strange that their media codes haven't been patented/trademarked as it identifies with a brand. I think TY is taking this rather well. If I were TY, I would certainly want to do something about it.