Foreign Flicks

[greentalks43]

Hey I just saw Battle Royale and thoroughly enjoyed it. Is BR 2 worth watching? What are some similar movies I could check. Ive taken quite an interest to foreign films as of late. Any reccomendations are welcome. Thanks guys.

[Conquest10]

Hero, House of Flying Daggers, Infernal Affairs I and II, Ju-on, Twins Effect to name a few.

[rallynavvie]

As far as Asian cinema?

I thought "Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter, and Spring" was pretty good. It's a Korean film about the life of a monk. The mainstream Zhang Yimou films like Hero and House of Flying Daggers are good but try his earlier stuff like Raise the Red Lantern. I'm a huge Kurosawa fan and there are plenty of his works to check out, probably Ran, Seven Samurai, Throne of Blood, and Kagemusha now that it's available on DVD. Inagaki's Samurai trilogy with Mifune is also worth checking out.

Or were you looking for cinema from other continents as well?

[Conquest10]

As far as Mexican, Amor es Perros is good.

[budz]

I didn't care so much for HOUSE OF THE FLYING DAGGERS.....It was more of a love story then anything else.....I have a collection of japanese and chinese movies on dvd.....especially the SHAW BROTHERS movies that have been released on DVD by Celestial Pictures.....those are the old school chinese martial arts and swordplay movies.....do you like shinichi chiba aka sonny chiba? his street fighter and other martial arts movies are being re-released with subs....I hate the english dubbings.....check out www.kungfucinema.com they have a forum site that has the shaw brothers forum as well as a japanese movie forum.....

[Ma_Jie]

I have a HUGE collection, 100+, of Asian movies....check out Kungfucultcinema.com too .... fantastic site.


I'll post my favourites later....Korea has many good flicks.

- MJ

[BJ_M]

Ai No Corrida if you want to see a good japan film
or some others:
ichi the killer
Nekromantik (classic german shock value)
Dancer in the Dark
Audition (very disturbing move http://imdb.com/title/tt0295867/ )
El topo (old - but classic mexican (john lennon was involved in the distribution))
The Cook the Thief His Wife & Her Lover (look for the uncut version)
Tetsuo
Cannibal Holocaust (good to watch this with " Requiem for a dream" back to back)
Irréversible (excellent film)
Jisatsu saakuru (most of the time time known as "Suicide Club")
36 fillette




i could go on and on ... but the above is a good start ...













by the way - i got to mention a non international film but with a international twist .. "The Last House on the Left" , which i watched tonight ... but you HAVE to watch the canada version which is uncut , vs. the heavly cut usa version , this film was banned in the uk and other countrys for 30 years .. it's wes cravens first film .
Trivia: When fledgling director Wes Craven took this film to the MPAA, they labeled it with an "X" rating. Wanting an R for wider release, Craven went back and removed 10 minutes of footage. However, this still wasn't enough, and the film still got an "X" rating. Once again, Craven removed footage, this time 20 minutes. But it still wasn't enough. Finally, Craven put all of the original footage back in, got an authentic "RATED R" seal of approval from the film board from a friend of his, put it on the film, and released it anyway - basicly a FU to the MPAA....

[canadateck]

El Topo thats one messed up film.
"Last house on the left" watched that about 3 months ago ,very good I also have the laser disc.

[offline]

There are a lot of films that are good for the shock and or voyeuristic values. The bad news for lovers
of the Last House on The Left is that all copies have
been cut.

I have seen the orignal print and there
are heaps missing from the start, a few bits and bobs from the main rape sequence, and almost a whole scene from the house murders.

This is one of many so called uncut, but cut, movies
on DVD. Pisses me right off

[Rookie64]

There are a lot of films that are good for the shock and or voyeuristic values. The bad news for lovers
of the Last House on The Left is that all copies have
been cut.

I have seen the orignal print and there
are heaps missing from the start, a few bits and bobs from the main rape sequence, and almost a whole scene from the house murders.

This is one of many so called uncut, but cut, movies
on DVD. Pisses me right off

Yea, I agree


I've seen the complete uncut version at a drive-in way back in 1973.
Even though I was very young, I'll never forget the scenes that ended up being cut from later versions.
When I saw it on vhs and later on DVD, I knew it was cut 'cause the rape scenes were a bit graphic and not much of it was in the video versions - even the imported versions that claimed to be the full uncut version were not as graphic.

BTW, I'm in the U.S. and they DID show the full uncut version here at Drive-ins in the early '70s.

A lot of movies did have cuts in them during those years, but that wasn't one of 'em.

I don't think Last House On The Left will be for all tastes - so I'm not sure I'd recommed it unless you're not easily offended by extreme violence.

The movie was inspired by Ingmar Bergman's The Virgin Spring...so that is one you might want to check out first.

[BJ_M]

There are a lot of films that are good for the shock and or voyeuristic values. The bad news for lovers
of the Last House on The Left is that all copies have
been cut.

I have seen the original print and there
are heaps missing from the start, a few bits and bobs from the main rape sequence, and almost a whole scene from the house murders.

This is one of many so called uncut, but cut, movies
on DVD. Pisses me right off

you can get the uncut version as i mentioned in Canada-- not at blockbuster though ..... but another place has it ... it is even listed that way on imdb as Canada gets the only uncut version (they even cut some in Germany which is really unusual considering the stuff that comes out of there)

[VCDHunter]

Any reccomendations are welcome. Thanks guys.

Old Boy. One of the finest films I have ever seen.

[offline]

There is -no- known uncut versions (Last House) on DVD or VHS

There are several releases that say "Uncut" but
they are still not complete. I've seen a print from
the original print.

I'd second VCDhunters choice. Just seen Old Boy and agree
totally.

[BJ_M]

A true uncut version will never see the light of day as all the other footage has been lost -- i mean uncut as much as possable - even the theater versions were never the same from theater to theater and wes pulled some stuff before it went to theater - so no one has really seen a complete complete version except wes himself and wes never kept a copy for himself ...

# The original US video release was heavily cut. The second US video release, which claims to be uncut, restores some footage, but is still incomplete. The most complete versions are the ones released on Canadian, Dutch, and Japanese home video. They include the following changes from and additions to the "uncut" Vestron version: This version has no end credits. The movie ends with the same montage of each character, but no actors' names are printed over the scenes. After the montage, the movie's end theme song continues to play over a blank screen where the final production credits normally appears. Also, the scene showing the killers as they carry the women down the stairs normally has the "Early next morning" credit at the bottom of the screen. In this version, this credit is missing. Since it is impossible to undo such a thing, this print must be from a time before the movie was completed. These scenes are added in addition:

* In the scene where Krug tells Weasel to cut Mari with his switchblade, this version goes on to show a close-up of Mari's bloody fingers with the voice-over, "Phyllis, he cut me!" This version goes on to show a wet patch on Phyllis' pants and a shot of the two semi-nude women holding each other.
* In the scene where Junior pleads, "You're gonna kill someone if you're not careful," this versions' scene has Junior continue, "...make 'em make it with each other." Sadie agrees, "That's a good idea!" Krug replies, "Make it with each other."
* The chase through the woods is longer. The added scene shows Weasel and Phyllis facing each other on opposite sides of the river. Phyllis gives him the bird and screams, "Screw, Creep!" Weasel's angry reaction ends the scene.
* During the carving scene, this version contains additional shots of the sheriff getting out of his police car and walking.
* The dialog between Weasel and Mrs. Collingwood during the fellatio scene is lengthier in this version.



# The MGM DVD features a section with outtakes and dailies that feature the full intestine pulling scene and more. Mentioned in the MGM DVD featurette, there was an alternate chest-carving sequence that was a lot more graphic than what is in the unrated version of the film.

# The British Anchor Bay DVD issue contains a complete alternative cut of the film, dating from the days when it was still known as "Krug and Company." The main difference is a short scene in which Sadie is seen performing oral sex on Mari, with Krug telling her, "Hurry up, because Weasel and I are very hungry."


# On July 17, 2002, the BBFC screened the new version that MGM will release in the US and decided to pass it as '18' with 31 seconds of cuts. They include scenes of humiliation to the girls, the scene where one of the girls' intestines are pulled out, and parts of the notorious "Phyllis, he cut me!" scene.
On the R1 DVD, the featurette of Dailies and outtakes contains a longer Chase sequence with Lucy Grantham, David Hess, Fred Lincoln, and Jeramie Rain; More footage of Mari and Junior; a deleted conversation with Cynthia Carr and Gaylord St. James, and more deleted material. This footage is most possibly the rest of the footage cut from the film. And if so, the only reason a completely uncut version can't be released is due to the fact that the synchronized audio track is lost to this day.

# Reportedly director Wes Craven decided that he had gone too far and cut some of the more extreme scenes of violence out of the theatrical version. Some of the stuff cut included more scenes between the two dumb cops and a shocking scene where Sadie reels out Phyllis's intestines after the bad guys have stabbed her, finally making them realize how disgusting what they're doing is. A brief glimpse of this scene can be seen on the 84-minute video version. Some outtakes that mysteriously showed up in a movie called "Confessions of a Blue Movie Star" show that indeed more was shot in the intestine-pulling scene. Whether that was actually in the film, or just outtakes, we will probably never know, since no existing prints of the movie seem to contain that footage.

[BJ_M]

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[yoda313]

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HEY! I want the UNCUT version of the post BJ_M just made!



Kevin

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[HatchetMan]

I'll recommend Tokyo Drifter and Branded to Kill. Both on Criterion DVD.

[Ma_Jie]

I sw Old Boy a few weeks ago -- excellent movie..Oh Daesu

Here's my movie list as of Dec. 2003 -- it's like almost doubled since then:

Once Upon a Time in China 1
Once Upon a Time in China 2
Once Upon a Time in China 3
My Stunts 1
My Stunts 2
Fong Sai Yuk
Fong Sai Yuk 2
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Kung Fu Cult Master
Shaolin Soccer
Battle Royale
Ringu
Hero (Ying Xiong)
Hong Kong History X
Hong Kong History Y
Dry Wood Fierce Fire
9413
Second Time Around
The Duel
Infernal Affairs
Gen X Cops
Legend of Zu
Tiramisu
Hot War
Women From Mars
Marooned
The Storm Riders
Hard Boiled
Whasango (Volcano High)
God of Gamblers
My Sassy Girl*
My Wife is a Gangster*
Musa*
The Eye
Guns & Talks
Frugal Game
For Bad Boys Only
Young and Dangerous
Young and Dangerous 2
Young and Dangerous 3
Young and Dangerous 4
Young and Dangerous 5
Y&D 6: Born to be King
My Left Eye Sees Ghosts
The Great Conqueror's Concubine Pt. 1
Summer Breeze of Love
The Great Conqueror's Concubine Pt. 2
Loving Him
Don't Cry Nanking
Mighty Baby
The Magic Crane
Dream to Dance
The Conman 2002
Runaway Pistol
Nine Girls and 1 Ghost
Cat and Mouse
Summer Holiday
Tokyo Raiders
Para Para Sakura
Hit Team
The Irresistible Piggies
Funeral March
Why Me, Sweetie

For example, I have Infernal Affairs 1-3, Bride With White Hair, Dragon Inn, Better Luck Tomorrow, Wang bu le (Lost in Time), Il Mare, Confessions of a Chinese Courtesan, etc. and countless others. ...I'll have to update it someday. Asian cinema rocks.

- MJ

[AlecWest]

Audition (very disturbing move http://imdb.com/title/tt0295867/ )

Actually, that's a link to the IMDB page for the original 1997 Korean release, not on home video. The 1999 Japanese release (which is on home video) can be read about here:

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0235198/

There also appears to be two versions of that ... a 113 minute US release and a 115 minute "director's cut" version (uncut). The US release is rated R ... and I suspect those 2 extra minutes would have put it into the NC17 category. Amazon Marketplace sells the 115 minute version:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000640S9/

[BJ_M]

looks to be the same movie story -- same dvd cover art ..

I have a dvd of the korean version though - w/ subs .. i got it in japan .. i have not seen the japan version.

it is (the korean version) quite graphic ..

[offline]

Anyone remember that Hong Kong ghost story comedy with main character being tricked into spending the night in a above ground tomb? He has to throw chicken eggs into the casket to stop the undead from being brought to "life" by magic.

Another unique scene involves a face in a mirror with long arms to drag unsuspecting people into it. I want a copy but can't remember the title.

[BJ_M]

check here for a hint:

http://www.angelfire.com/sk3/asianhorror/

[BJ_M]

"chicken eggs into the casket to stop the undead from being brought to "life" by magic. "

that has undertones of the Korean tale of "The Legend of Hyok-Kose"

Though eggs, death , caskets are a common theme in many cultures ..

[offline]

Thanks BJ_M, but I'm no closer. :/

[AlecWest]

Thanks BJ_M, but I'm no closer. :/

This link might help:

http://www.hkcinema.co.uk/reviewsdvdspooky.html

The Hong Kong title was "Gui Da Gui" but it was released under a number of other titles according to IMDB:

Close Encounters of the Spooky Kind
Encounters of the Spooky Kind (in the U.K.)
Ghost Against Ghost
Spooky Encounters (in North America)

It has a coffin, chicken eggs, and long-armed ghouls. And, it's available on an NTSC DVD from Amazon Marketplace:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004YZEI/ (new)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/offer-listing/B00004YZEI/ (used)

There was also a sequel released in 1990 ("Gui Yao Gui") ... but it's not available on home video according to IMDB.com.

[richdvd]

City of God.

[AlecWest]

My ex-wife was Filipino so I watched a lot of Filipino movies during our marriage. One of the funniest ones I saw was titled, "The Arizona Kid." It's a spaghetti western filmed in Italy with mostly Italian actors, some American actors, and Chiquito ... one of the funniest Filipino comedians alive. According to IMDB which lists it under its Italian title:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067115/

the film is not available on home video. But, if you look hard enough in local Filipino stores, you're bound to find a copy on VHS.

Chiquito plays a Filipino immigrant, searching for his family in the U.S. (circa, the Wild West 1800s). Through misunderstandings, flattery, and deception, he finds himself the sheriff of a small town ... not knowing that a band of desperados had previously attacked the town and vowed to return ... which is a problem since Chiquito's character is a complete coward. An aging Mamie van Doren plays a love interest in the film.

The funniest scene is the stagecoach scene. Chiquito is trying to eat a jar of "bagoong" ... a salted fish dish popular in the Philippines with the consistency of mud and the smell of a soiled baby diaper. And he's trying to eat it without offending other passengers or spilling it on them. He doesn't succeed (grin). That one scene is worth the rental ... if you can find it.

[JohnnyCNote]

City of God.

This is one of the best movies to come out in years. It's one you'll hear other directors refer to in interviews and DVD commentary tracks (e.g. "Man on Fire").

One of my favorites is "The Exterminating Angel (El Angel Exterminador)" by Luis Buñuel. It's only available on VHS but worth watching. It's strange but hilarious. "The Wages of Sin" by Henri Georges Cluzot is like "City of God" in that it's one of those that's been very influential with other directors over the years.

There are a few Russian movies, notably "Agoniya (Agony)", the story of Rasputin, and "Vor (The Thief)", that are very good. "Stalingrad", a German movie is one of the best WWII movies around, and is almost as good as "Das Boot".

Those are a few suggestions....

[greentalks43]

Thank you guys so much for the reccomendations. BTW I meant asian cinema but movies from other continents as they are good. Im not into the whole voyeurturistic stuff or other similar types of fucked up movies.

[BJ_M]

if you are watching a movie - you are being voyeurturistic