VHS to DVD

[LCSHG]

VHS to DVD
I have looked many times and at many of the forms and guides. They all seem go into great detail and technical jargon. I don’t want to set the world on fire; I just want to transfer/copy MY VHS tapes to DVD. [What is the process]?

Problems
MACROVISION. I have heard that the Hauppauge capture cards are the best way to go and will ignore macrovision and produce a macrovision free file on a PC. That can than be burned to a DVD. Is there a better way? What is a good way to produce a reasonably good DVD from a VHS tape. Again Macrovision seems to be the real problem

The computer is a Plll 850 mhz. With a 100 fsb. With 512 mem. The hard drive is a 120 gig. The DVD writer is a NEC 3520. The OS is WIN 98SE. I do not want to go to XP but will if I have to.

[thecoalman]

Again Macrovision seems to be the real problem

Why is MV ap problem, commercial tapes?

[lordsmurf]

Buy a DVD recorder if the guides are too much. It has a great big RECORD button that's hard to screw up.

As far as analog copy protection, read this:
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=246129

[davideck]

LCSHG -

I have a Hauppauge PVR-250 in a PIII 866 Mhz / 120GB / 256 MB / WIN98SE
system and it works GREAT! I use Ulead Movie Factory 2 for authoring.

I don't know if it removes Macrovision.

Hauppauge Cards have a reputation for not always installing properly, but it installed just fine for me, has been trouble free, and the capture quality is Excellent!

You might need a TBC...

[LCSHG]

the coalman
Yes Commercial VHS tapes [Mine]

loadsmurf
I have a DVD recorder. The operation guides are fine. The record button is small but I know where it is. I read your thread and rviewed the recomended hardware/software. Others with the same problem report that the Sima items are the best but state that they are only about 50 to 60 % efective and than only to about 85% quality. Some have used the Hauppauge capture card and report them to be 100% efective in removing [ignoring] any copy protection. Your thread even states that any of the recomended items may not work. Some who have said problem solved have come back to say the problem is not solved. I was looking for anyone that has had the same copy protection problems and solved them. Is the Hauppauge capture card the answer. I don't think TBC is for me but maybe it is.

[thecoalman]

the coalman
Yes Commercial VHS tapes [Mine]

Just asking, it's a side interest of mine. www.nepadigital.com/mv

I've seen it posted a lot of times that the 250 ignores it. Otherwise go with the TBC/ DVD Recorder <shuddrs at the thought of DVD recorder>

[LCSHG]

davideck
Thanks for the reply. You say the Hauppauge card is working great for you. I asume that you are not having any copy protection problems at all. I am glad to here that the capture quality is excellant. I was thinking of a less featured card than the 250 I understand that they all work the same with the higher end like the 250 having more features. As I understand it the Hauppauge card does not remove macrovision, It ignore's it. I'm also told that it does not have a AGC that macrovision works on but I don't know for sure. Why would I need aTBC?

[davideck]

davideck
Thanks for the reply. You say the Hauppauge card is working great for you. I asume that you are not having any copy protection problems at all. I am glad to here that the capture quality is excellant. I was thinking of a less featured card than the 250 I understand that they all work the same with the higher end like the 250 having more features. As I understand it the Hauppauge card does not remove macrovision, It ignore's it. I'm also told that it does not have a AGC that macrovision works on but I don't know for sure. Why would I need aTBC?

You will need a TBC if the audio and video get out of sync by the end of a VHS capture. I always use a TBC-3000 and have never noticed any Macrovision problems, but I have only backed up a handful of Commercial Tapes; I am not sure if they had Macrovision or not...

Lots of people on this Forum are complaining about the PVR-150, so I would get the 250 if you can find one.

[lordsmurf]

There is more than one 250 ... so you may want to look deeper, like chipsets, year made, drivers, etc...

Pretty much all cards now have MV protection.

[LCSHG]

davidek
You mention the video/audio being out of sync. Idid not think this was a problem if the right hardware/software was being used. You mention the use of a TBC-3000 is this or the Hauppauge card solving any copy protection issue. I'm not sure about the 150 or any Hauppauge card having more or less problems. The 150 is less costly and unfortunately a lot of people do not know how to properly install hardware or drivers and than trouble shoot any problems


lordsmurf
GOOD POINT! The older cards and or drivers may ignore MV, but the new ones do not.

[davideck]

LCSHG - I have found that as dropouts and/or record gaps accumulate over time during a VHS capture, the audio and video gradually get out of sync if I connect the VCR directly to the Hauppauge. The TBC-3000 eliminates this problem.

Some people on this forum claim that the DataVideo TBCs eliminate Macrovision. I do not know what the Hauppauge does with regard to MV.

[thecoalman]

Some people on this forum claim that the DataVideo TBCs eliminate Macrovision. .

MV is just a video error. So what's a TBC have to do with it?

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1115672#1115672

Without a TBC you wouldn't have a fighting chance of regularly capturing from various tape sources with any measure of success. If the sync issues didn't eat your lunch, the color shifts and raggedy vertical lines in the picture would ..assuming the signal wasn't MV-protected. If it was, you'd need to rely on a signal-degrading filter, such as a "corrector" or "Stabilizer" which do nothing to correct timing ...they just notch out the MV signal, and usually some of the legitimate signal as well

There's images on this link that will scew up the position it links too, refressh the page after it loads.

[davideck]

MV is just a video error. So what's a TBC have to do with it?

The MV signal exists in the vertical blanking interval. A TBC will typically replace many of these lines with a clean vertical sync interval, so the MV signal may therefore get blanked out in the process.

[pepegot1]

A cheap solution to Macrovision: http://www.checkhere22.com/stabilizer.html
Use this with a DVR-JVC DR-M10S does an excellent job

[LCSHG]

I just thaught this comment might be of intrest. It was a responce on another form. The person was asking a very basic question on converting VHS to DVD. The responce solutions were QUITE involved. On another site. I found a reference to the older BT8x8 and the drivers being MV free SOUNDS LIKE A SIMPLE SOLUTION TO TRANSFER VHS to DVD

Comment on other form

Thanks for the Info but I found a much easier and Cheaper solution for that "#$&*0/0" Macrovision crap I found an old Hauppauge Win card at a Church Computer sale well I'll be dammed it copies all my VHS tapes even those that I couln't with the Sima Copy master!!! Tthis Win TV product copies the source signal as cIear as the originaI broadcast. The only drawback is a maximum capture on 352x480 Mpeg2 half D1 but since that's over the max resoulution of VHS tape who cares! I use my All-in-Wonder for all other capture needs I've heard that most Hauppauge products ignore Macrovision and record it easily. So now I can move my daughters VHS Disney colection to DVD.