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  1. Read all about it:

    Napster hack leads to free downloads

    It's like the old Napster all over again: all the music you want for free, as long as you're willing to get a little geeky.

    Blogs were buzzing Tuesday about the resurgence of an old technique for recording music on a computer, reapplied to Napster's all-you-can-eat subscription music plan. Using software freely available from America Online's Winamp division, it's possible to turn Napster's copy-protected downloads into unprotected files that can be burned by the hundreds or even thousands freely to CDs.
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  2. yet i get a warning for simply posting the names of DVD rental places... the Mods sure suck here.

    You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning.
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    haha....thanx CNote
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  4. And they all run from Itunes over to Napster.

    Today's top story, iTunes loses all it's customers to napster.
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  5. Big deal,all they are doing is recording analog.
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  6. Originally Posted by MOVIEGEEK
    Big deal,all they are doing is recording analog.
    No they are not, it remains digital. Install a 'Pseudo' sound driver that pretends to be a soundcard. The audio player then uncompresses the DRM protected sound file, sending unprotected uncompressed data to the 'soundcard' for conversion into analog sound to send to the speakers. Instead of converting to analog though the data is written to the Hard Drive instead. The result, a large, uncompressed and non-DRM version of the same file. This can then be recompressed using the codec of your choice. Soure, some loss of quality is inevitable, changing compression formats always causes this, but its not likley to be noticeable.

    Hmmm, I wonder if a similiar method could be applied to video
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  7. Hmmm when u say a pseudo soundcard do you a app like Total Recorder ?????
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  8. Originally Posted by sugarshine
    Hmmm when u say a pseudo soundcard do you a app like Total Recorder ?????
    Never used it but it looks like it would do the job!!
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    I am enjoying napster right now with that little glitch.
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  10. I'm not sure what is so amazing about this? I bought a song from Buy.com and played it in Windows Media Player. Then I put a blank CD-RW in my drive and selected burn to disk in Windows Media Player. When it was done, I started up Musicmatch Jukebox and converted the file to an MP3 that I can listen to at work or on my iPod. It is completly DRM free when all is done.

    Does the napster service give you the songs in a format that can't be burned to a disk using this method? I'm just a dial up kind of cheap ass so I seldom purchase music on line.
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  11. Jesus, it's still only glorified p2p, you might as well get them off kazaa, would be less hassle, and still illegal.
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  12. With Zazaa you dont pay,Thats Illegal. With napster you pay,legal.
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    Originally Posted by canadateck
    With Zazaa you dont pay,Thats Illegal. With napster you pay,legal.
    it's possible to turn Napster's copy-protected downloads into unprotected files that can be burned by the hundreds or even thousands freely to CDs.
    Hmmm.... i thought bypassing a security measure was Illegal, what i have seemed to have been told by certain mods here
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  14. Originally Posted by Noahtuck
    Originally Posted by canadateck
    With Zazaa you dont pay,Thats Illegal. With napster you pay,legal.
    it's possible to turn Napster's copy-protected downloads into unprotected files that can be burned by the hundreds or even thousands freely to CDs.
    Hmmm.... i thought bypassing a security measure was Illegal, what i have seemed to have been told by certain mods here
    never backed up a DVD?

    I was just pointing out that Kazaa is Illegal and everything you do with the file. But Naster is Not , Now what you do with the File you PAY for is up to you.

    Know what I mean.
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    Originally Posted by canadateck
    never backed up a DVD?

    I was just pointing out that Kazaa is Illegal and everything you do with the file. But Naster is Not , Now what you do with the File you PAY for is up to you.

    Know what I mean.
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    I could still argue this against some other situations here, but i've been a trouble maker enough this month
    I'm just gonna go back to work for a little while 8)
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    it's funny how basically the music industry bought napster and tried to use the name....


    what was the name of that russian website thats legal?
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    It's all of mp3....pay by the size of song. Whole cds for around $2 http://www.allofmp3.com/
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  18. I've never bought music over the net so I really don't know that much but in theory couldn't you burn all the MP3 files you download to a CD/DVD ROM (READ ONLY MEMORY!!!) and then use the files from the disc so you can copy them to anything else and that way the DRM protected files won't know they've been copied or used?
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    ...it's also illegal to just scam images from other websites and post them as your own -- especially corporate logos (like Kazaa's).

    Some graphic designer spent considerable time making those images for the companies in question -- and to have them blatantly ripped off by someone like you, well, it's an infringement of copyright laws.

    You might think: Hey, what harm is there in that? Who am I hurting?

    It's no different than scamming music or dvd's or video games. Images and photographs are still considered intellectual property, which are fully protected by international copyright laws. And cannot be used (period) without permission of the original creator or copyright holder.
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  20. Originally Posted by rkgibbons
    By the way, holier-than-thou CanadaTeck...it's also illegal to just scam images from other websites and post them as your own -- especially corporate logos such as Kazaa.

    Some graphic designer spent considerable time making those images for the companies in question -- and to have them blatantly ripped off by someone like you, well, it's an infringement of copyright laws.

    But let me guess: You think, hey, what harm is there in that? Who am I hurting?

    It's no different than scamming music or dvd's or video games. Images and photographs are still considered intellectual property, which are fully protected by international copyright laws. And cannot be used (period) without permission of the original creator or copyright holder.

    You might want to clean up your own house before you judge others...
    What the Hell are you talking about??????

    I never judged anybody , like to stir shit? Who the hell you think you are? Next time you use Kazaa why dont you email them about the Problem you have with me using the Logo. Get a life Pal.
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  21. I only started this thread in order to pass on some information that I hoped some people would find interesting. I really don't want to see it degenerate into a fight and get locked down....
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  22. Originally Posted by JohnnyCNote
    I only started this thread in order to pass on some information that I hoped some people would find interesting. I really don't want to see it degenerate into a fight and get locked down....
    No Worrys there,I said what I needed to say, You wont see me Flame.
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    Havent you always been able to use a sound recorder program to capture any music played on your pc?
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    Originally Posted by canadateck
    With Zazaa you dont pay,Thats Illegal. With napster you pay,legal.
    Skirting DRM is NEVER legal I don't care if you pay for the service you got it from or not.
    The real answer lies in completely understanding the question!
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  25. Originally Posted by Tidy
    Originally Posted by canadateck
    With Zazaa you dont pay,Thats Illegal. With napster you pay,legal.
    Skirting DRM is NEVER legal I don't care if you pay for the service you got it from or not.
    I didnt say anything about DRM . I said your File.. Do what you want.If its rented then no. Other then that your file your call,Nobody told you to skirt anything including me.

    You never backed up a DVD? Your "Skirtting that.
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  26. whoever said that it is legal to use that glitch is mistaken, if u read the agreements it will tell you. You do not own the file when you download it from napster you only buy the "right" to play it as much times as they want you so u really dont have any say wether or not you wanna take the copy protection off.
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    Originally Posted by Harryford
    whoever said that it is legal to use that glitch is mistaken, if u read the agreements it will tell you. You do not own the file when you download it from napster you only buy the "right" to play it as much times as they want you so u really dont have any say wether or not you wanna take the copy protection off.

    thats what i thought also --- you dont buy the song , only the right to listen to it x number of times
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  28. Personally, I'm glad there's a glitch. But my gladness is more work-related.

    For some reason, the owner at my part time job only lets us download from Napster. That was fine up until a few months ago when he got a new computer with WinXP SP2. Now, our DJ program will not let us do what we use to...namely crossfading and mixing.....and the DJ software is not to blame for this. The problem is with Windows Media Player 10 and the way it reads the DRM encoding. And Microshaft,errr, I mean Microsoft says there is nothing it can do for the problem.

    Way I see it, as long as we bought the rights to listen to/play the song, we should be able to do what we want to do, as long as we're not putting it on 100 different computers, uploading to P2P like Kazaa or Bit Torrent, or selling copies.

    Also, I'm glad CDs and tapes aren't limited to X number of plays like some of the DRM files are.....otherwise, I'd have spent a fortune on ICP disks as much as I play them!

    ***WARNING: this post was written under the influence of a caffene&sugar high....so if it's not coherent, I'll correct it later***
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