problem with DVDs backed up with DVDShrink

[eligen]

before switching to DVDShrink i was using Super DVD Copy for a 1DVD9 to 2DVD5 backup and my DVD player + laptop could read the disks just fine.

Now i'm using DVDShrink and the backups are really "jumpy", especially at the beginning but also all over the movie. This happens both on my laptop and my DVD player, even when there's no compression at all. What can it be?

i'm not an expert: i just need an easy tool to backup my DVDs efficiently. i don't care if the backup is split on 2 DVDs, as long as i get to watch a movie without having to ffd or rew it all the time to make something out of it!!

as usual, all the advice you can give me will be more than appreciated.

Cheers,
E

[yoda313]

Hello,

Might be bad discs. Did you change brands after starting with dvd shrink????

Kevin

[eligen]

well, the same discs didn't give me any problem when i was using super dvd copy. Also, i should mention that the backups work better on my laptop (it's still a little jumpy, but not as much as with my DVD player...)...

anyway, the brand is "MATSU" and I've been using those for a while. do you think that's the problem?

[mcbit]

I'm having the same problem too!! I have in the past been using DVDFab to back up my DVD9s to single DVD5s. The results have been great when the discs copied are standard movies, however the quality drops of dramatically when copying season discs due to the additional compression necessary. I generally write to DVD+RW to check the quality before doing a final burn. From DVDFab these RWs always play on all of my players.

After I came on this forum I discovered DVDDecrypter and DVDShrink and thought i'd give them a go.

The problem is now,
DVDDecrypter rips disc to hard disc no problem
I run a 2 pass shrink and produce an iso file no problem
When I burn the iso file to the +RW media the disc will only play on my Samsung P246M. On the other machines it will not even load.

...So I run DVDFab on the hard disk files produced by DVDDecrypter and the resulting +RW plays in all my machines.

I want to persist with DVDShrink as the quality of the final DVD after 2 pass encoding is far superior to that produced by DVDFab.

I have tried reducing output file size to 4.1GB in DVDShrink and this has improved matters in that the disc will now load but still suffers from stuttering and eventual death from around 2/3 of the way through the disc.

My conclusions so far.

No mismatch of media and player as success guaranteed with DVDFab
No problem with the file output from DVDDecrypter as DVDFab succesfully burns those.
No problem with the burning software as both Nero and Roxio suffer the same fate.
No problems with the drives as they consistenly produce good result with iso files produced with other software.
The problem lies with iso file output from DVDShrink.

Any known issues? I'm using version 3.2

[cyflyer]

Your "Matsu", media code vdsp..., according to ratings in nomorecoasters.com appears to be the crappiest of the crappy discs. Change, get some DECENT discs and try again. Seriously.

[eligen]

Your "Matsu", media code vdsp..., according to ratings in nomorecoasters.com appears to be the crappiest of the crappy discs. Change, get some DECENT discs and try again. Seriously.

Thanks for the advice, cyflyer.

So, in order to check the "crappy discs" theory, which brands would you advise me to try? I've got a brand new box of "MATSU" discs to return

E

[joepic]

So, in order to check the "crappy discs" theory, which brands would you advise me to try? I've got a brand new box of "MATSU" discs to return

RITEK G04 or G05


I have used and recommend this product for the last couple of years.

http://www.meritline.com/ritek-ridata-g04-4x-dvd-r-blank-media-disc-matte-1.html

$38 PER 100

Also try using DVD Decrypter to burn your DVD's in DVD Shrink. This is the option I use.

[cyflyer]

RITEK G04-G05.. NOooooooooooooooo ! They have crapped out. They are not would what they used to be. Read all the zillions of posts in these forums.

Eligen, When in doubt buy the best you can hold of. Buy brand. Buy TDK, Maxell, Fuji, Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim, anything "Made in Japan".

joepic. $38 for 100 Riteks.....You can get 100 TY's for the same price, and they are supposed to be the BEST of the BEST.

[eligen]

thanks guys!

i'll return the bad dvdrs and get better ones (altough before i switched to DVDShrink those were working just fine), and try and burn through DVDDecrypter.

i'll let you know how that goes!

[mcbit]

I'm having the same problem too!! I have in the past been using DVDFab to back up my DVD9s to single DVD5s. The results have been great when the discs copied are standard movies, however the quality drops of dramatically when copying season discs due to the additional compression necessary. I generally write to DVD+RW to check the quality before doing a final burn. From DVDFab these RWs always play on all of my players.

After I came on this forum I discovered DVDDecrypter and DVDShrink and thought i'd give them a go.

The problem is now,
DVDDecrypter rips disc to hard disc no problem
I run a 2 pass shrink and produce an iso file no problem
When I burn the iso file to the +RW media the disc will only play on my Samsung P246M. On the other machines it will not even load.

...So I run DVDFab on the hard disk files produced by DVDDecrypter and the resulting +RW plays in all my machines.

I want to persist with DVDShrink as the quality of the final DVD after 2 pass encoding is far superior to that produced by DVDFab.

I have tried reducing output file size to 4.1GB in DVDShrink and this has improved matters in that the disc will now load but still suffers from stuttering and eventual death from around 2/3 of the way through the disc.

My conclusions so far.

No mismatch of media and player as success guaranteed with DVDFab
No problem with the file output from DVDDecrypter as DVDFab succesfully burns those.
No problem with the burning software as both Nero and Roxio suffer the same fate.
No problems with the drives as they consistenly produce good result with iso files produced with other software.
The problem lies with iso file output from DVDShrink.

Any known issues? I'm using version 3.2

I've now discovered that if I burn the DVD+R/RW media with Nero from inside DVDShrink then the final disc will play in all my players. The only reason i can see for this is "Burn at least 30mm (+R high compatibility mode)" setting in DVDShrink's Burn Settings.

Is there any way I can set this externally to DVDShrink with any other buring software??

I'd like the option to be able to save to ISO rather than an immediate burn!

[Rich86]

I can't speak to Ritek G05 media, since my Sony 510A can't use it, but Ritek G04 media is performing every bit as well today as it ever has. It is still my media of choice based on quality and price. It works superbly in my Sony 510a.

[BSpielbauer]

RITEK G04-G05.. NOooooooooooooooo ! They have crapped out. They are not would what they used to be. Read all the zillions of posts in these forums.

Eligen, When in doubt buy the best you can hold of. Buy brand. Buy TDK, Maxell, Fuji, Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim, anything "Made in Japan".

joepic. $38 for 100 Riteks.....You can get 100 TY's for the same price, and they are supposed to be the BEST of the BEST.

While I agree with your list of acceptable media, I also wish to point out that the GO4 and GO5 posts appear to be more urban legend than anything else. If one reads carefully through the "zillions of posts" you refer to (hyperbole does not help the user), it now appears that the problems were limited to the GO5s, and it also appears that most, if not all of those came from users who were trying to burn above the 8X burn rate. (Yes, I have checked, and double-checked, and those users with problems noted attempts top burn at 12 X and 16X, in a few cases they reported this much LATER in the same threads, so read carefully and pay attention to the names). The number of users who actually have reported problems that they themselves experienced is quite small. The number of posts from users who merely repeated the information they read does indeed number in the hundreds.

During the time of the reported "problems," I have continued to use recent GO4s and GO5s with no probelms, so far. I have burned close to 150 GO5s, and 200 GO4s I still have perhaps 20 of each remaining). All were purchased after November 15 of 2004, and the most recent 100 were delievered on February 2. These were all from Supermediastore.com or from Meritline.com or from Rima.com. I have had no coasters, with the exception of December 26, when the power went while doing a burn, and also a night when I tried to multitask a bit too much, and had a "blue screen of death" in Windoze.

I continue to recommend Riteks, and my friends continue to be pleased, as well. Also, I should note that the various testing software out there confirms that the burns continue at a very high quality.

Just my thoughts,

-Bruce in Chi-Town

PS - No, I do not work for Ritek, nor am I in any way affiliated with them, and I could not give a rat's ass which brands / lines / media codes deliver and what brands do not, as long as I get accurate information so that I do not purchase garbage.

[steptoe]

I've used both Ritek G04 and G05, and have noticed that the dy ewas getting substandard with small marks in the dye that the NEC 3510 burner I use would just miss out

Read about the DataWrite Titanium, supposed to have special properties to try and reduce dust and scratches, I bough a spindke of 50 to try them out, the only coasters I got was when my CPOU fan was dying and causing teh computer to screw up

Not had one coaster, burns at x8 quite easily, plays on any of the DVD players in the house and we have 3 totally different brands, all of varying quality. It 'may' pause briefly once, but that is it, and it doesn't always pause


I've used so called quality media in the past where pausing, skipping and freezing were so bad I had to change the media and use them as data DVD's just so I didn't have to throw them away

[gmatov]

Steptoe's is a funny post.

A backup to your own DVD is more important than a backup of your Tax data, or whatever data you have that is important enough TO backup.

Bad write, for a bit, is correctible for video, bad write for a bit or so means you have lost 2001, 2, 3, 4 tax backups.

I am NOT iompressed with Fuji Japan, T002 +Rs. Compared Ridata with the same backup, at 1X read, and the Ridata has half or less the PI and PO errors.
Mebbe we should quit with the shit about what is good and what is bad.

YOU think it is so goddamned good, but WE have different results.

Wanna see some pics?

Cheers,

George