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    i bought some of this media rated at 8x, but on the cake package it says will burn at 12x with 12 burners

    so has anyone burnt it at that speed and got low errors ?
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    I have a Plextor PX-712A and most of the time I can burn these at 12x (sometimes the drive forces an 8x burn). PIE errors tend to increase near the outer edge of the disc (but still staying well within the 280 PIE limit) although I've had a couple of burns at 12x where the max didn't go over 20 PIE. Keep in mind there may be differences in the quality of these discs depending on whether they were made by CMC Magnetics or by Prodisc.
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    I've burned lots of these at 12x on my Pioneer 108 using 1.14 and 1.18 firmware and Nero. They work great.

    By the way, I bought a pack of the Verbatim 16x disks to try out the burner's 16x capabilities. The Pioneer won't burn them at 16x. They work great at 12x, but so do these 8x disks.
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    Mawdryn the Verbatim 16x DVD-Rs should burn at 16x on your 108. Remember Pioneer drives are a bit biased toward DVD-R.
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    Originally Posted by Gen-An
    Mawdryn the Verbatim 16x DVD-Rs should burn at 16x on your 108. Remember Pioneer drives are a bit biased toward DVD-R.
    The ones I tried are +Rs. I haven't seen 16x -Rs yet but I heard they're available. Maybe I'll try some. Not that it really matters - I remember in the reviews of the Pioneer 108, the 16x burns actually took a bit longer than 12x (because of the delay at the final speed change). I just want to actually see that 16x speed kick in sometime before I die. 8)
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    The Pioneer A08/108 should have been marketed as a 12x burner IMO. Either that, or they should have made the 108 with the 109's burning capabilities.
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