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  1. i kicked over my PC and messed it all up, it wont boot up windows, it wont do anything. what do u think the problem is? any thoughs of want could have happen to the PC and why it want boot up? do u think it might have knocked something loose? i have a D-camera and i can take pictures inside and out, if this would help someone find the problem.

    any info would be great Thanks
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  2. Unscrew and pull everything out.
    Blow everything off with compressed air.
    Put everything back exactly the way it was.
    Could be as simple as a loose cable, or as bad as a cracked board.
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  3. Originally Posted by reboot
    Unscrew and pull everything out.
    Blow everything off with compressed air.
    Put everything back exactly the way it was.
    Could be as simple as a loose cable, or as bad as a cracked board.
    the PC is only 2 months old so i might not need compressed air. would i notice a cracked board, or are they hard to spot? is it hard to take everything out and put it back? have u ever had to take your PC apart? will there be alot of stuff to take out? my PC is all stock.

    i also have a dell and thats what im using now. when i put my dvd burner in my dell open like scissors. do all PCs open like scissors?
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    Does the power come on ?
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    Originally Posted by dblue
    would i notice a cracked board?
    Yes

    Originally Posted by dblue
    it hard to take everything out and put it back?
    Nope, but if you are unsure, take it to a repair shop.

    Originally Posted by dblue
    have u ever had to take your PC apart?
    Yes, as I run my own repair service.

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    will there be alot of stuff to take out?
    Yep

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    when i put my dvd burner in my dell open like scissors. do all PCs open like scissors?
    Nope
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    If it was running when it was knocked over, there may be damage to the harddrive. If it just fell over on it's side while off, may not be any major problems.

    The drives, etc, can stand quite a shock and survive. Carefully check the CPU cooler. If it came off, the CPU may be damaged. I've knocked one over before, while running , and it just popped the CPU cooler off and destroyed the fan. Luckily, there was no other damage.

    I would unplug it, open it up and reseat every cable and board. Try again. If still nothing, then pull it apart.

    After that, as asked before, does it come on? Do the drive and power lights come on. Do you get a system beep when it starts? Do you have video? BIOS screen?
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  7. have u ever had to take your PC apart?
    Oh yes. I've been building, repairing, rebuilding, and fixing computers since before the Tandy TRS-80, and Commodore PET, when, if you wanted a PC, you had to build it from pieces.
    You couldn't go and buy a motherboard.
    If you don't know what they are, you're way younger than I am
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  8. i got the PC to work thanks for all the help guys, but i have one more question and its about installing drives. my friend gave me this PC and when he gave it to me he took out the drives and i wont to put drives into it. are all the drives install the same, meaning can i use my dells rails to install in my compaq? he did not give me any rails to install drives.

    here are some pitures of the drive spot on the PC and the drive i want to put in. am i missing anything? i dont see any place to put the drive. if i take the drive out of my dell will i be able to use the rails of the dell?





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  9. You should have some coloured rails that screw on to the sides of the drives (with fine-thread screws), then they slot in. You could try looking inside the case, on the bottom. Manufacturers often put plenty of spare rails/clips there!

    Make sure your drives are set to Master and Slave - a DVD-ROM should be Slave to a writer (either DVD or CD) which should be set to Master. You do this with the jumpers on the back.

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  10. If you look inside the case (take the sides off), you will see screw holes where the drive will go, matching up with the screw holes in the drive.
    Just slide it in, and screw in place (your pictures are excellent, and show the holes even)
    Make sure you use the right size screws though, too long and you could damage the drive.
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  11. hhhmm Compaq, looks like the one in the Futureshop flyer this week, it's 2 months old take it back don't tell them you kicked it over just say it stopped working.
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  12. sorry when you said it was 2 months old I thought you ment you bought it from a store, I just red more sorry.
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    Originally Posted by reboot
    If you look inside the case (take the sides off), you will see screw holes where the drive will go, matching up with the screw holes in the drive.
    Just slide it in, and screw in place (your pictures are excellent, and show the holes even)
    Make sure you use the right size screws though, too long and you could damage the drive.
    he has one of those compaqs that only work with rails -- not screws ..

    extra rails in case though
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  14. The last Presario I worked on, looks identical to that, has screw holes...(shrug).
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  15. Originally Posted by Scottie
    hhhmm Compaq, looks like the one in the Futureshop flyer this week, it's 2 months old take it back don't tell them you kicked it over just say it stopped working.
    That is called theft.
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    Originally Posted by Cobra
    Originally Posted by Scottie
    hhhmm Compaq, looks like the one in the Futureshop flyer this week, it's 2 months old take it back don't tell them you kicked it over just say it stopped working.
    That is called theft.
    I agree with Cobra.
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  17. Originally Posted by reboot
    If you look inside the case (take the sides off), you will see screw holes where the drive will go, matching up with the screw holes in the drive.
    Just slide it in, and screw in place (your pictures are excellent, and show the holes even)
    Make sure you use the right size screws though, too long and you could damage the drive.
    ok i see it when i opened up the PC, i saw that theres 3 wires that are labeled P2 P3 P4 (witch u will see in the pic) witch wire do i put in the master and witch one do i put in the slave. the (blue arrow)wire does not fix in any of the slots in the back of the drive. were does the (blue arrow) wire go (it saids P8 on it)

    (heres the drives back) i did not see any wires that fits in the section were the blue arrow is. i took a stab at it and the drive would read cdr's but not dvd-rw. im not shore if dvd rom drives can read dvd-rw, or i just hooked up the drive wrong. can some help me out with hooking my drives up?
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    i'll take a stab at it and say put the master in the drive with the jumper marked master and the plug on the same cable in the drive with the jumper marked slave ...

    the blue arrow thing is for a floppy ..
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  19. P2, P3, P4 are interchangeable. Plug em in wherever you need to. One for hard drive, one for CD, and one for whatever other drive you're going to install.
    Master (light grey cable) looks like it goes to the CD-ROM. Slave goes nowhere.
    The other large (dark grey) cable goes to your hard drive, with the END of the cable, not the middle connector (should also be marked master).
    The little molex plug (blue arrow) is for your floppy drive. If there's one there already, leave it.
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  20. Originally Posted by reboot
    P2, P3, P4 are interchangeable. Plug em in wherever you need to. One for hard drive, one for CD, and one for whatever other drive you're going to install.
    Master (light grey cable) looks like it goes to the CD-ROM. Slave goes nowhere.
    The other large (dark grey) cable goes to your hard drive, with the END of the cable, not the middle connector (should also be marked master).
    The little molex plug (blue arrow) is for your floppy drive. If there's one there already, leave it.
    so the 2 blue arrows in the drive pic theres no wires for theses slots? because when i install my dvd burner into my dell PC there was a wire for that slot, or is that because it a dell?
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    in your second pic -- the one out of focus , the blue thing is pointing to two things . the one on the right is the jumpers - leave alone

    the one on the left is for digital audio and the other end would go to the mother board or a sound card (if there is one - prob. not)
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  22. Originally Posted by Cobra
    http://www.zdnet.com.au/reviews/hardware/storage/0,39023427,39116255,00.htm

    I'm sure this will help you out.
    thanks alot the was a big help one question tho, i only hooking up one drive and then testing it and it would not read dvd-r. is this because i only have one drive hooked up? would this problem go away if i have both drive hooked up? (the drive is saying its there on the PC)
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  23. Don't ya think the computer has to have it hooked up in order to read from it?
    Windoze may "think" it's there, but unless it's actually plugged in, it's not.
    Don't go by what windoze thinks, it's often wrong.
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    the jumper has to be set right for it to work....am i having a brain lapse or i thought master was always the middle of the cable?
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    no no, it was a brain lapse it's been a rought day
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  26. Just for reference incase something like this happens again. If you cannot boot up windows for some reason, maybe it is corrupt or something, there may be a way to recover your data. You could use a linux live-cd to recover your info. Put this in your drive when you boot up and it will boot your computer completely off the cd. You can then hopefully use it to access your hard drive and burn off the data. A couple good live-cds are Knoppix and Slax, found respectively at
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    And, too, the pics show what sure as hell looks like a 40 wire ribbon cable, small slow drive. Should be changed.

    No, the master always goes on the end of the cable. Single drive, mebbe the center connector will work, but end is normal for master.

    In Cable Select system, automatically the end is the Master.

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    I think you need some help from a hands on pal to show you what to do. It is not brain surgery, but still would be a good idea to get some local help.
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    Originally Posted by gmatov
    And, too, the pics show what sure as hell looks like a 40 wire ribbon cable, small slow drive. Should be changed.

    No, the master always goes on the end of the cable. Single drive, mebbe the center connector will work, but end is normal for master.

    In Cable Select system, automatically the end is the Master.

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    I think you need some help from a hands on pal to show you what to do. It is not brain surgery, but still would be a good idea to get some local help.
    i said i was havin a brain lapse already kinda reminds me of when im workin on my car when i think left is tight...but no, righty is tighty. just one of those things when u second guess yourself

    the middle does work

    your right on target as far as 40 pin, it damn near does look it.
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  29. Originally Posted by gmatov
    And, too, the pics show what sure as hell looks like a 40 wire ribbon cable, small slow drive. Should be changed.
    I thought the 40-wire (up to ATA100) was OK - ATA133 needs 80-wire for extra grounding to prevent interferance. His IDE cable should be fine for a couple of optical drives, shouldn't it?
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