Why not to use Meth...

[Ma_Jie]

Guys, check this out. It seems some Meth users are going toothless around 30...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=7&u=/ap/20050205/ap_on_he_me/meth_mouth

- MJ[/url]

[ViRaL1]

I worked with a girl who was a prime example. I kept wanting to say 'PLEASE don't smile, you're scaring the customers.'

[sacajaweeda]

Meth and toothless by 30 or coke and jobless in six months or less.

[Capmaster]

If you're doing meth I think your dental hygeine is the least of your worries

[ViRaL1]

Coke is too expensive, meth is the crack of rural America.

[ViRaL1]

Meth is getting harder to make because a lot of the OTC pharmaceuticals used to manufacture it are being treated as a controlled substance. At least you don't have to give your name and address to buy enough coke to make crack.

[JohnnyCNote]

I wanted to get some generic Actifed at WalMart the other day. They hadn't had any in a couple of weeks, so I picked up 4 boxes of 24. When I got to the check-out they said I could only buy 3 at a time, and just rang up the 4th separately. What was strange is that you can get 2 48/ct boxes of their generic pseudophed with no problem.

Of course, you'd need a LOT more than that to make a batch of meth, so it's a stupid policy. I used to be able to get a bottle of 100, but that's ancient history now.

As far as preventing people from making meth goes, the majority of it still comes from south of the border, so it would only make a small dent in the supply. I used to know a lot of meth addicts in San Francisco. They were the first group of people I ceased associating with. Personally, I think it's one of the worst drugs around....

[budz]

Johnnycnote wrote

Of course, you'd need a LOT more than that to make a batch of meth, so it's a stupid policy. I used to be able to get a bottle of 100, but that's ancient history now.

As far as preventing people from making meth goes, the majority of it still comes from south of the border, so it would only make a small dent in the supply. I used to know a lot of meth addicts in San Francisco. They were the first group of people I ceased associating with. Personally, I think it's one of the worst drugs around....

I work with drug addicts & their familes. Yes, crystal meth is the worst of them all. I've come across many saber tooth addicts who couldn't even chew a burger. They lose their teeth, the skin tone changes to a purplish & grey complex. Also develop absesses on their bodies.

Here in Hawaii this legislative session they are going to try to pass a bill regarding limiting over the counter cold meds. They want to limit and have consumers register when purchasing over the counter drugs because of the ephedrine ingredient that meth cookers use. In my opinion that's a invasion of privacy but at the same time our little island chain ranks number 1 in the USA with the most ice addicts. So I can see how they want to prevent the druggies from manufacturing crystal meth. We just had a home burn down the other day and it's a suspected crystal meth lab.

For a tiny state we have it's really a shame that we rate #1 in the USA for having the most crystal meth addicts. Crystal meth use & addiction can affect any social economic group. We just had a former police officer who was also a former parole board chairman die from respiratory failure that was induced from his crystal meth use. By state law here when someone dies in the home a autopsy is performed, they found crystal meth in his system. Our medical examiner got her study posted in the medical journal regarding crystal meth users who end up having respiratory problems and as a result end up dying. She kept a record of how many people that have died from using crystal meth, in 2004 there were 67 deaths related to respiratory failure due to cystal meth use.

[JohnnyCNote]

Is smoking ice worse, based on what you've seen, than injecting it? Either one sounds really bad.

I'll admit to having sniffed it many years ago, but I got to where I wouldn't even do it if it was offered to me. I tried to avoid speed freaks at all costs, so I can't say I ever knew anyone who used ice, although I can't say the same about those who shot it up.....

[yoda313]

Hello,

It's illegal and wrong - aren't those reasons enough???? Apparently not....

Kevin

[ViRaL1]

Illegal, yes. Wrong?

[yoda313]

Hello,

You don't consider using a substance that harms your body WRONG????????? --- aside from caffeine.....

Kevin

[ViRaL1]

Caffeine and so many other things.

[Guest]

Johnnycnote wrote

Of course, you'd need a LOT more than that to make a batch of meth, so it's a stupid policy. I used to be able to get a bottle of 100, but that's ancient history now.

As far as preventing people from making meth goes, the majority of it still comes from south of the border, so it would only make a small dent in the supply. I used to know a lot of meth addicts in San Francisco. They were the first group of people I ceased associating with. Personally, I think it's one of the worst drugs around....

I work with drug addicts & their familes. Yes, crystal meth is the worst of them all. I've come across many saber tooth addicts who couldn't even chew a burger. They lose their teeth, the skin tone changes to a purplish & grey complex. Also develop absesses on their bodies.

Here in Hawaii this legislative session they are going to try to pass a bill regarding limiting over the counter cold meds. They want to limit and have consumers register when purchasing over the counter drugs because of the ephedrine ingredient that meth cookers use. In my opinion that's a invasion of privacy but at the same time our little island chain ranks number 1 in the USA with the most ice addicts. So I can see how they want to prevent the druggies from manufacturing crystal meth. We just had a home burn down the other day and it's a suspected crystal meth lab.

For a tiny state we have it's really a shame that we rate #1 in the USA for having the most crystal meth addicts. Crystal meth use & addiction can affect any social economic group. We just had a former police officer who was also a former parole board chairman die from respiratory failure that was induced from his crystal meth use. By state law here when someone dies in the home a autopsy is performed, they found crystal meth in his system. Our medical examiner got her study posted in the medical journal regarding crystal meth users who end up having respiratory problems and as a result end up dying. She kept a record of how many people that have died from using crystal meth, in 2004 there were 67 deaths related to respiratory failure due to cystal meth use.

You on Oahu?We went over to the West side beaches with some locals once. The beach bathrooms were just full of people smokin ice.That shits worse than crack.

[yoda313]

Hello,

Yeah but banned substances are a good place to draw the line!

Kevin

[pyrate83]

Drugs are bad.

[Guest]

Hello,

You don't consider using a substance that harms your body WRONG????????? --- aside from caffeine.....

Kevin

Depends how good the buzz is.

[ViRaL1]

I'll agree that it's not healthy. Wrong is subjective though.

[budz]

Dr.Gee wrote

You on Oahu?We went over to the West side beaches with some locals once. The beach bathrooms were just full of people smokin ice.That shits worse than crack.

Yes I am on Oahu. Did you go to the Northshore beaches? Pipeline, Waimea Bay, Sunset Beach? I'm not surprised that you found people smoking ice. As I stated Hawaii is number 1 in the nation for the most ice addicts.

[Guest]

Nah,Northshore has only smelled skunky to me. I'm talkin Homestead.

[budz]

ok, then you were on the leeward coast country side like in Nanakuli, Waianae, Makaha. The ice problem is just as bad on that side of the island. But the problem is just as bad in the city.

[northcat_8]

Jeesh...everybody has to die of something...leave the Meth users alone maybe that is the method they chose.

[Guest]

I was thinking about a pre-ot/post ot photochop.Forgot to do it.

[Doramius]

There should be a large island somewhere where Drugs are completely allowed, but you can't leave unless the levels have gone below a certain point. THe attraction to the island would be the free use of drugs. I say, if people want to use drugs, don't stop it. Just isolate it and allow it to kill itself or allow itself to die out. There's a leper colony in Hawaii and that seems to be doing fine. Heck, we could do that with HIV people too. Who says they can't lead a normal life somewhere. Just not where people don't want to be sick.

Kind of a cruel way of thinking, but honestly, it's either let it happen somewhere where people want it and people can go to get it, or just keep living with the fact that your drugs are going to be limited and they'll want to know everything about you before you buy asprin. It's one way or the other.

[Guest]

Isnt that The Wire?

[JohnnyCNote]

Jeesh...everybody has to die of something...leave the Meth users alone maybe that is the method they chose.

I've been hearing about the "War on Drugs" since I was in elementary school in the 60's. The result: drug use continued to rise throughout the 70's, 80's and 90's, major criminal organizations (the Columbian Cartels, Chinese Traids, La Cosa Nostra, LA street gangs, etc., etc.) have made billions of dollars, untold thousands of innocent people have been killed when caught in the crossfire of competing drug gangs and the US has the largest incarceration rate in the industrialized world.

The only thing that has taken the "War on Drugs" out of the forefront is the "War on Terror". Time will tell what the result of that will be. However, it if itsn't clear by now that that the present drug prohibition is a total failure, nothing will convince those who doubt it. And while I don't like being around heroin or meth addicts, I know good and well that locking them up only takes up room that should be used to house violent criminals. As a victim of a violent crime, I have very strong views in that regard.

That's all I'm going to say lest they lock the thread, but it's a subject I've given a lot of thought to.......

[ViRaL1]

For those who don't know. The war is over...drugs won.

[doppletwo]

Hello,

Yeah but banned substances are a good place to draw the line!

Kevin

Can't over dose on weed.

People die from alcohol poisoning all the time.

I am not currently inhaling though for various reasons.

Mary Jane is not toxic. It would be easier to overdose on water than pot.

[northcat_8]

Jeesh...everybody has to die of something...leave the Meth users alone maybe that is the method they chose.

I've been hearing about the "War on Drugs" since I was in elementary school in the 60's. The result: drug use continued to rise throughout the 70's, 80's and 90's, major criminal organizations (the Columbian Cartels, Chinese Traids, La Cosa Nostra, LA street gangs, etc., etc.) have made billions of dollars, untold thousands of innocent people have been killed when caught in the crossfire of competing drug gangs and the US has the largest incarceration rate in the industrialized world.

The only thing that has taken the "War on Drugs" out of the forefront is the "War on Terror". Time will tell what the result of that will be. However, it if itsn't clear by now that that the present drug prohibition is a total failure, nothing will convince those who doubt it. And while I don't like being around heroin or meth addicts, I know good and well that locking them up only takes up room that should be used to house violent criminals. As a victim of a violent crime, I have very strong views in that regard.

That's all I'm going to say lest they lock the thread, but it's a subject I've given a lot of thought to.......

Well you see JohnnyCNote...you are confused. This is the USA. The war on drugs is nothing more than redirecting the money. It's not about stopping drug use or distribution it's about MONEY. Hell people fight porn and nudity in the US, yet it's still a billion dollar business and those are made right here in our own backyard. I would venture to say the same people who outwardly fight against such things are also users. Not all but a great many I would bet.

Fact is if there wasn't a demand for it, there wouldn't be any problem stopping it. I saw a 60 Minutes show once where the interviewed some columbian college students. Ed Bradly asked them about their country's main export and the one kids said something to the effect "what kind of "war on drugs" can the US produce being that the US is the major consumer of cocaine?" ~he's got a point

I agree with you about the prisons and locking up the violent people but they aren't concerned about doing the right thing, it just has to look like they are "trying" to do the right things.

[Guest]

edit-Could be considered political.Sorry.