Do you own a gun?

[Doramius]

My 10 is loud and gives a bruised shoulder when not held right(or lose your arm). You'll get a bruised shoulder if you do hold it right and shoot often with it. I went target shooting and the next day my arm felt like it was going to fall off after shooting 150 shells.

[glockjs]

The 8-gauge with a slug was also called an "elephant gun" by some old-timers.

by some old timers you mean...YOU. right?

[Capmaster]

The 8-gauge with a slug was also called an "elephant gun" by some old-timers.

by some old timers you mean...YOU. right?

Who else?

[stiltman]

me

just started farting dust this year

[BJ_M]

Gauges of shotguns the last time I checked:
4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 16, 20, 28,

And there was a special small size shotgun bore based on the English system utilizing decimal inches, similar to legacy US ammunition - the .410

The 4 and 6-gauge were ship-mounted anti-shark guns ...not shoulder weapons

The 8-gauge with a slug was also called an "elephant gun" by some old-timers.

you forgot the russian 23mm Gauge - which is about the size of a 6 gauge .. and is for handheld use

it is standard on the KS-23 models with both 80 gram Armor Piercing Slugs (capable of penetrating 20+mm of steel plate) and Shrapnel rounds -- it is a brute .... it only holds 3 shots, but 1 shot will stop most ANYTHING .. This page calls it a 4 gauge - but the size is between a 6 and 4 ... .....

http://www.baconbomb.com/spetsnazmod/w_shotgun.html

[Doramius]

A 4 gauge hand gun is really something hard to get ahold of these days. :P

[Capmaster]

A 4 gauge hand gun is really something hard to get ahold of these days. :P

And heep ahold of

Anyone ever check out the American Derringer Co.'s survival derringers? You can get them in .45 Long Colt, .44 mag., .410 shotgun, even 30-30

They're not for spending the day shooting up beer cans. They're for the backpack when it's either you or that grizzly bear and you won't mind some insane recoil.

[rallynavvie]

gummy: That's the baby version of my rifle

Looks like the same thing to me... even looks like the identical package mine came in. Unless that's the real version of the gun?

That's my H&K 91 when I first bought it. Your Airsoft is more likely a clone of the MSG-90 by HK which is basically the military variant of my 91. They're all G3 descendants. Mine has been retrofitted with so many other parts that I've taken to calling it a G91. I also never use those big 20-round box mags, always the little 5-round that fit almost flush with the forearm. It has a PSG-1 grip and trigger stop, most of the trigger group from an MSG-90, and a cryo-treated barrel/receiver. Gun looks better with a good scope mounted to it though

[gummyAvenger]

That's my H&K 91 when I first bought it. Your Airsoft is more likely a clone of the MSG-90 by HK which is basically the military variant of my 91. They're all G3 descendants. Mine has been retrofitted with so many other parts that I've taken to calling it a G91. I also never use those big 20-round box mags, always the little 5-round that fit almost flush with the forearm. It has a PSG-1 grip and trigger stop, most of the trigger group from an MSG-90, and a cryo-treated barrel/receiver. Gun looks better with a good scope mounted to it though

Impressive!
I've got no clue if this is the name of a real gun, but mine is sold as an HK G3-SG1.

I bet yours doesn't fire 700 rounds per minute though

[sacajaweeda]

03?

Yep. About all anyone could want from a 30-06.

[gmatov]

Sac,

Is that a high number 03-A3? When I saw it I said '03, then went to look at mine, as the striker looked odd, with the flute. My low number '03 has a straight striker.

For a Chicago resident to go across the border to buy a gun is kinda illegal, as you may not buy from out of state unless you have it shipped to an instate dealer, who will do the paperwork.

Nor is there any registration, per se, federally. Ashcroft saw to that in, I think, 91, when he required his people to destroy records the day after Instant Check gave an OK to a purchase.

Even though they tried to go behind his back to make a registry, against the law, I might add.

there is a .410, which is the only caliber designated shotgun, .41, same as a .45 is, nominally 45/100 of an inch. the rest are in number of balls to the pound, hence a 4 guage firea a 4 ounce ball, and if you can get any velocity from that, you WILL get put on your ass. They were called "punt guns" at the time of their use, late 19th, early 20th century. Got rid of the passenger pigeon, for the Waldorf trade. You put a 1/4 pound of fine shot into a cloud of birds, you would knock down a bunch of them.

10 guage is the largest normally used today, and the poster above who put 150 rounds through his in 1 afternoon is either an Iron Man, or a liar. If he used weenie loads, mebbe, if he used couple ounce loads, bullshit. They hammer your ass. You just ain't agonna do it.

One of the jokes about the 10 guagers is when they are in a duck blind and the water squirts out from under their boots with each shot. They will pound your ass into the mud there.

Ah, well,

Cheers,

George

Edit 01, was no Ashcroft in 91

[offline]

The govt thanks you.

[northcat_8]

The 4 and 6-gauge were ship-mounted anti-shark guns ...not shoulder weapons

well good god I would hope not

[BJ_M]

The 4 and 6-gauge were ship-mounted anti-shark guns ...not shoulder weapons

well good god I would hope not

yes they are -- cap was wrong

see here https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1198465#1198465

[Capmaster]

The 4 and 6-gauge were ship-mounted anti-shark guns ...not shoulder weapons

well good god I would hope not

yes they are -- cap was wrong

see here https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1198465#1198465

Different weapon than the ones I was thinking of.

I'm not wrong ...the guns I remember seeing in a Guns & Ammo article were mounted on a swivel like a small cannon. They were used for sharks, and the shells resembled small coffee cans.

The fact that there were other guns called "4 gauge" doesn't invalidate my comments on the guns I was referring to. Hell, even ceremonial cannons are called 2,3 or 4 gauge.

[northcat_8]

well I don't want to shoot one of those then. Holy Cow I've shot a 10 gauge and it kicked like a mule. I would assume an 8 gauge would kick more, a 6 more and a 4 even more.

screw that. If there's something I need to shoot with a 4 gauge to kill it, I'll shoot it with my 30-30 4-5 times, since with a rifle I can use the extra range to get off more shots

[Capmaster]

If it's something a 10-gauge can't kill, then perhaps a hand grenade would be in order

[northcat_8]

If it's something a 10-gauge can't kill, then perhaps a hand grenade would be in order

no doubt.

a mortar maybe, or a tomahawk....

[rallynavvie]

Not 700 rounds per minute no, it's just a very accurate semi-automatic. The G3SG/1 is a pretty unique variant of a G3 (SG stands for scharfschutzengewehr, or sharpshooter in German). I want one of the trigger groups from that variant soooooo bad. It has a trigger set behind the trigger that drops the pull down to something like 1 lb. and has the best inner working of almost any rifle to date. Problem is finding a trigger group for one is almost impossible and when you do they're something like $4-6k.

Isn't that the variant used is Counterstrike?

[doppletwo]

I don't "own" a gun.

[ViRaL1]

Just carry?

Thoughts on hunting with a 4 gauge.


Stay very still until your mark comes within 50 feet.

Jump out of the bushes and shout angrily at it, exposing your rear or genitals as necessary.

As the animal begins to charge, ready yourself with a wide stance and a firm grip on the gun.

Just as the animal is within 5 feet, swing the gun around with the barrel across your body so as not to shoot yourself.

With a slow but firm lunging motion, press the but of the gun against the animal's skull.

Pull trigger (again be sure you're not in front of the barrel when it discharges).

Your prey will now be sufficiently concussed and may be gutted (or violated, depending on the prey) as desired.

[gummyAvenger]

Isn't that the variant used is Counterstrike?

Hmm... I think it is, actually

[Doramius]

You can shoot 150 rounds with a 10 gauge. You end up with a sore a** arm the next day. The cost for ammo is pretty expensive. but when you have a whole saturday trying to shoot clay targets for fun, you get yourself as comfortable as possible and shoot. Must've been out there 6 or 7 hours. My friend had my .22 and 4 boxes of 500 rounds each. We don't come home with ammunition. We have a target setup for the rifle though.

We went to Home Depot and got an 8' long 6"x6" beam. Wasn't cheap. We also found some large junk speakers and ripped tham apart and removed the cores from the magnets. Those things are pretty solid. We welded them to heavy duty door hinges and got some long hex lag bolts. We put 10 of those on the beam. It takes 2 people to move and setup easily, but you've got targets that won't be shot through by a .22 rifle. If it starts to wear out or really break up, then we might use it with a bigger gun, but for now it works great. We tried tying long strings to it one time, but fairly often we'd shoot a string and have to tie it up again. The rifle can hold up to 15 shots, so 10 shots a turn isn't really bad. I also went to an auto shop and found pipe similar to brake line pipe that will fit the .22 shells. I got a 4 foot section and cut it into 4 pieces. I capped off one end and I slide 10 shells all facing the same direction. The magazine for the rifle is under the barrell, so I pull out the slide, line a pie up with the magazine, drop all of the shots in, replace the slide and fire. I can fire 50 shots pretty dang fast with that setup. going through a box of 500 rounds doesn't last long. The sad thing is all the brass casings that are left. We just put as many as we can find and put them in a bucket to be recycled. don't get too much for them, but it helps drop the cost of ammo down a little. over time it adds up quite a bit.

[ViRaL1]

'Heavy is good, heavy is reliable. If it does not work you can always hit him with it.'

[doppletwo]

I plead the Fif'

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[sacajaweeda]

Sac,

Is that a high number 03-A3? When I saw it I said '03, then went to look at mine, as the striker looked odd, with the flute. My low number '03 has a straight striker.

It is a bit odd looking isnt it. I just found the pic on the web. Mine looks nothing like that, as I've ditched the original stock and bedded the action in a nice custom glass stock and really dolled it up. Most dependable rifle ever made, IMHO, and able to take down just about anything on the North American continent.

[ViRaL1]

I plead the Fif'

the Fizzif'

the fizzle

the fizzle dizzle dogg

the fee fi fo fum ith

That reminds me, I need to pre-order season 2.

[shelbyGT]

I don't like the wording... I don't own one, but I'm not totally against them and I'm not going to buy one.

[sacajaweeda]

They're not for everybody.

[ViRaL1]

They're not for everybody.

That's not what the NRA says.