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Microsoft Corp. is planning to make its currently voluntary Windows anti-piracy program mandatory some time in the second half of 2005, company officials said on Wednesday....
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Nothing can stop me now, 'cause I don't care anymore.
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doesn't effect anyone on this forum I'm sure ....
"Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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Another reason to migrate to Linux. Name one other company in the world that threatens and harasses customers like this.
"It's getting to the point now when I'm with you, I no longer want to have something stuck in my eye..."
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cus they want people to not steal their software ?
"Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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Member
- Apr 2004
- Death Valley, Bomb-Bay
Mircosoft SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yeaaa - ok ..... sure ..
"Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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So they make you validate, but then they claim that it can't be used to track down someone... riiiiight
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Whatever the reason is, they're apparently making all customers participate in this. IMO, this is akin to doing a strip search of everyone passing through the airport as an anti-terrorism measure. Or maybe requiring a fingerprint and DNA sample as you enter a store, so they'll be sure to catch shoplifters.Originally Posted by BJ_M
P.S. If they disallow critical updates for people who haven't "validated" they may be opening themselves to lawsuits as well... i.e. from valid customers who (for whatever reason) decide they don't want to go through the procedure, and end up losing data cuz they can't patch security holes.
I guess it's been too long since MS has actively generated bad will in the PC community, they must be bored and longing for a fresh wave of hatred...
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Hello Ladies
- Jul 2003
- Studio 54
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I run win2K and I have MSDNAA
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i guess you dont own OSX , where you have to pay for all patchs ....
as for airports -- i guess you dont fly much as i got horror stories ..
ms is not the only one doing this -- many companies are going this route .... they could just start charging for updates like many many other companies are doing .."Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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Nope... do you really have to pay for all patches? Remind me never to buy a Mac.Originally Posted by BJ_M
If they wanted to charge for non security related updates like Windows Media Player, Windows Messenger, MSIE, etc. that'd be fine with me... I'd either pay, or get a competing product. But if they started charging for critical fixes, IMO it would be high time to dump Windows altogether.ms is not the only one doing this -- many companies are going this route .... they could just start charging for updates like many many other companies are doing ..
P.S. very cool avatar, freaks me out tho..
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"I'm happy" said the frog in pot of water as the heat was turned up another degree.
Big Government is Big Business.. just without a product and at twice the price... after all if the opposite of pro is con then wouldn’t the opposite of progress be congress?
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what makes you say that.Originally Posted by BJ_M
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It will probably follow that the majority of folks who dislike this situation with MS will move to Linux, or continue with older MS products not requiring the Anti Piracy. If there is a way to reverse engineer it with IDA Pro, it will be done.
MAK
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i felt like itOriginally Posted by mattyboy"Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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They say security issues will still be patched for everyone, only non-critical updates will be covered by this. They know better than to risk leaving even more unpatched machines available for hackers to attack than there are already!
There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those that understand binary...
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in the desktop market -- linux is not even a player, even macs are twice as many ...
but in the server market - it sure is A player .. but server distro 's are not now often free either, and require costly service packages (same as sun) .
"Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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bug's right -- a lot of people here missed the point that security patches will be for everyone -- as is the policy now ..Originally Posted by bugster"Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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Another intelligent commentOriginally Posted by BJ_M
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click hereOriginally Posted by mattyboy"Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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As long as your software is legitimate, there shouldn't be any problems. M$ doesn't want to know who you are and probably doesn't care beyond you purchasing their products.
Nothing can stop me now, 'cause I don't care anymore.
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Originally Posted by BJ_M
You mean that it's kind of strange how many people that ask about EVERY single option of CCE and Scenarist didn't get the manual when they "bought" it?
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Nobody is going to admit on here that they arent " Lilly, White and Christian" .Originally Posted by hrlslcbrOriginally Posted by BJ_M
You mean that it's kind of strange how many people that ask about EVERY single option of CCE and Scenarist didn't get the manual when they "bought" it?
Except me
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Okay. Let me get this straight.
Used to be when you bought a new computer system (full up), you received hardware AND the media of the software that came with it.
I know that some companies (all? certainly HP, I know) now don't even supply a [set of] rescue disk when you purchase a complete system. The user is relying on a partition (with the rescue s/w) on the only hard drive they get for fixing their system. If they know how to do that.
This was all performed in order to reduce/eliminate piracy.
Didn't work did it?
So when will it be when we are forced to all have "constant on" internet hookups and leave our computers on all the time so the manufacturers can police the stuff that we legitimately own?
Last I checked, I don't work for them, nor live in their neighborhood.
(Is this Lansing, Michigan?)
Whatever doesn't kill me, merely ticks me off. (Never again a Sony consumer.)
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that was done to reduce cost - not to "reduce/eliminate piracy" ..
"Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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BoBV's signature echoes my opinions...
, even if microcrap does do this, there are many people bright enough to "make things right".
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Apple doesn't charge for security updates or bug fixes. It is true that they update the OS every 12 to 18 months which is a paid upgrade, but you get hundreds of new features and enhancements. This is similar to going from Win 98 to Win ME, for which Microsoft customers also pay.Originally Posted by BJ_M
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they charge for every point release -- and service pack ..
"Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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A point release like the upcoming tiger 10.4 is equivalent to going from Win 98 to Win ME, for which Microsoft also charges. The Apple equivalent of a service patch would be like going from 10.3.5 to 10.3.6 which is a free upgrade.
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So you have to give them your Win Product keys, the name of your pc manufacturer, and tell them which os you are running, before you can download an update? I don't see what the big deal is.
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