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    Hie!

    I have 4 VOB files..and 4 vob files only:

    Vob file: Converted from: Size:
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    1. VTS_01_1.vob Lord of ring CD1-2.mpg 750 MB
    2. VTS_01_1.vob Lord of ring CD2-2.mpg 750 MB

    3. VTS_01_1.vob Scream 3 CD1-2.mpg 820 MB
    3. VTS_01_1.vob Scream 3 CD2-2.mpg 750 MB
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    These 4 vob files are ofcource not in the same directory..

    Now..usually I rename the first vob file into 001, 002, 003, 004
    and then join clips whit VOB EDIT..then Create ifo files whit IFOEDIT.

    BUT..i want to create chapters..not a menu..just chapters..becuase
    when i push >> it doesnt work on my dvd player becuase all is just
    one big movie ..dispite there is 3-4 vob files


    so Ive tried to do this and rename to:

    VTS_01_1.vob
    VTS_02_1.vob
    VTS_03_1.vob
    VTS_04_1.vob


    thats 4 chapters..and one movie in every chapter..if i understood it corectly..but i cant use ifoedit or vobedit on these files when they are renamed in that way..So what in the GODS name must i do? when i have 4 files...and want 4 chapters? should i join them ? or how do i just create ifo & bup files automaticly so it says that there is 4 chapters?

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    A wild guess then

    I would name VOBs thus

    LOTR CD1 -> VTS_01_1.VOB
    LOTR CD2 -> VTS_01_2.VOB

    Scream CD1 -> VTS_02_1.VOB
    Scream CD2 -> VTS_02_2.VOB

    Get the drift? VTS_01_xx = 1st movie, VTS_02_xx = 2nd movie etc.

    Then I'd author them using DVDLab - see excellent gudie by Reboot.

    NOTE:
    Audio & Video streams must match for both movies if placing on 1 DVD, unless you place them in speparate root folders (see guide).
    Your individual VTS's are NOT chapters! Chapter info held in IFO files generated by the authoring tool - you have to specify chapters etc.

    I think this is what you're after...

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    Use TMPGENC DVD Author, placing each file in the same track. Each will become a chapter. Use the 'no menu' option in the program, if you don't want one. Then have the program create new vobs in the required DVD structure.
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    I think you're totally confused (or I am!)
    A VOB doesn't equal a chapter.
    VTS_01_1.vob Lord of ring CD1-2.mpg is not a VOB file - it's an mpeg file. The same goes for the others.
    Just author them with TMPGEnc DVD Author. The LOTR mpegs to one title, the Scream mpegs to another title. And I suggest a main menu to select between the two.
    This is, if they are DVD compliant mpegs.

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    Hi Mats

    I think Starsun's post is slightly misaligned (read it again )...

    He's saying that he has started with mpg files and converted to VOBs.

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    Ah - I see - please disregard my post. (How do you create VOBs from mpg if not using a DVD authoring app? This makes no sense at all?!?) But again, just author the original mpegs with TMPGEnc DVD Author if they are DVD compliant. If not, (they are SVCD mpegs, which I think is likely in this context) run them thru svcd2dvdmpg first.

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    I daresay you'd get much much better results and find it much easier to backup your original DVDs
    If in doubt, Google it.

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    Hurr Hurr

    Doesn't smack of a 'backup original' anything to me.

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    Originally Posted by underwurlde
    Hurr Hurr

    Doesn't smack of a 'backup original' anything to me.

    Andy
    Well..what I REALLY want most av all is to have menu..
    and i´ve used ulead but that takes about 10-20 hours for me to convert & so on..EVENthough the movies i put in there is already dvd format..

    so i´ve tried others..but they just mess whit the audio and makes it all go wrong..
    and i dont know how to create menues manually ..and dont really understand DVDLAP at all eventhough i tried several times..

    anyhow..i convert my MPG movie files whit tmpenc 2.5, I use MPEG tools, and then:
    De-multiplex.
    dont know why becuase i have NO idea what demultiplex means..and nor the difference beetwheen demultiplex or multiplex..anyhow..i create the m2v and mp2..then use ifoedit to get the vob files and so on..


    Anyhow..i tried to rename my 4 vob files into:
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    LOTR CD1 -> VTS_01_1.VOB
    LOTR CD2 -> VTS_01_2.VOB

    Scream CD1 -> VTS_02_1.VOB
    Scream CD2 -> VTS_02_2.VOB
    =============

    like andy suggested..but when I try to create ifo & buf files whit ifo edit it only goes through the vts_01 and totalt ignores vts_02 files.

    By the way...ive tried tempenc dvd author..and that program doesnt work for me..EVERYTIME i add a movie in there it eaither complaints about the size or color or something..

    So how do I make ifo edit follow up on the vts_02 files as well? :/

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    Well..what I REALLY want most av all is to have menu..
    and i´ve used ulead but that takes about 10-20 hours for me to convert & so on..EVENthough the movies i put in there is already dvd format..

    so i´ve tried others..but they just mess whit the audio and makes it all go wrong..
    and i dont know how to create menues manually ..and dont really understand DVDLAP at all eventhough i tried several times..

    anyhow..i convert my MPG movie files whit tmpenc 2.5, I use MPEG tools, and then:
    De-multiplex.
    dont know why becuase i have NO idea what demultiplex means..and nor the difference beetwheen demultiplex or multiplex..anyhow..i create the m2v and mp2..then use ifoedit to get the vob files and so on..


    Anyhow..i tried to rename my 4 vob files into:
    =============
    LOTR CD1 -> VTS_01_1.VOB
    LOTR CD2 -> VTS_01_2.VOB

    Scream CD1 -> VTS_02_1.VOB
    Scream CD2 -> VTS_02_2.VOB
    =============

    like andy suggested..but when I try to create ifo & buf files whit ifo edit it only goes through the vts_01 and totalt ignores vts_02 files.

    By the way...ive tried tempenc dvd author..and that program doesnt work for me..EVERYTIME i add a movie in there it eaither complaints about the size or color or something..

    So how do I make ifo edit follow up on the vts_02 files as well?

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    Well..what I REALLY want most av all is to have menu..
    and i´ve used ulead but that takes about 10-20 hours for me to convert & so on..EVENthough the movies i put in there is already dvd format..

    so i´ve tried others..but they just mess whit the audio and makes it all go wrong..
    and i dont know how to create menues manually ..and dont really understand DVDLAP at all eventhough i tried several times..

    anyhow..i convert my MPG movie files whit tmpenc 2.5, I use MPEG tools, and then:
    De-multiplex.
    dont know why becuase i have NO idea what demultiplex means..and nor the difference beetwheen demultiplex or multiplex..anyhow..i create the m2v and mp2..then use ifoedit to get the vob files and so on..


    Anyhow..i tried to rename my 4 vob files into:
    =============
    LOTR CD1 -> VTS_01_1.VOB
    LOTR CD2 -> VTS_01_2.VOB

    Scream CD1 -> VTS_02_1.VOB
    Scream CD2 -> VTS_02_2.VOB
    =============

    like andy suggested..but when I try to create ifo & buf files whit ifo edit it only goes through the vts_01 and totalt ignores vts_02 files.

    have no clew what "backup dvd" means eaither..i´m know..i´m retarded..

    By the way...ive tried tempenc dvd author..and that program doesnt work for me..EVERYTIME i add a movie in there it eaither complaints about the size or color or something..

    So how do I make ifo edit follow up on the vts_02 files as well? :/

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    Backup to where you have your source files. Find out what they are. VCD? SVCD? DVD? None of the above?
    If they are not DVD compliant, make them compliant by reencoding (yes, this takes time, and degrades quality), or make them appear so with SVCD2DVDMPG (if it's SVCD - this takes no time at all). Then author with TMPGenc DVD Author.
    You can't take just any mpg file you find and expect it to be suitable and accepted as source material for a video DVD.

    /Mats

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    Originally Posted by mats.hogberg
    Backup to where you have your source files. Find out what they are. VCD? SVCD? DVD? None of the above?
    If they are not DVD compliant, make them compliant by reencoding (yes, this takes time, and degrades quality), or make them appear so with SVCD2DVDMPG (if it's SVCD - this takes no time at all). Then author with TMPGenc DVD Author.
    You can't take just any mpg file you find and expect it to be suitable and accepted as source material for a video DVD.

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    well..still dont get ya..
    just download the stuff in mpg format..and convert it to m2v/mp2. and then into Vob file..and it works fine on my dvd player..but i just nead to know..is there a way to not use tempenc dvd author and automaticly find a way to create ifo+bup files whit these files:

    vts_01_01.vob
    vts_01_02.vob
    vts_02_01.vob
    vts_02_02.vob

    ?

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    ...until you give the specifics of those mpeg files, I can't help you - you're trying to fix things in the wrong end of the process: Get your source material right before continuing. Get latest GSpot, load one of those mpg files, and post a screen shot. (Blurring the file names, if needed...)

    /Mats

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    Jeeeesus!

    VOB's Avi's, MOV's etc. etc. are containers. They hold video and audio information (sometimes called streams) - & sometimes other stuff. The video 'stream' and audio 'stream' is combined into a container (a playable file) by 'multiplexing' them together - 99% of the time usually interlaced - i.e a snippet of video followed by a snipped of audio followed by a snippet of video etc. etc.

    The annoying thing to note is that the Audio stream is NOT 'bound' to the Video stream i.e. they are NOT synchronised. Usually what happens is that the start of the audio multiplexed track is offset in time to start when the video starts and hence appear in sync. Hence many posts on this forum regarding 'audio sync problems'.

    Hence Demultiplexing a container file such as a VOB extracts the Audio and Video streams into individual files. An unnecessary step if going from TmgpEnc to TmpgEnc DVD Author (I think).

    Now a VOB file is just a container but for it to be DVD compliant then the Video Stream must use either MPEGI or MPEGII codecs that use a frame rate & frame size that is of a DVD standard. Same goes for Audio. This is why TmegEnc offers the ability to create MPEGs of 'type' DVD i.e. they will cohere to the DVD standard.

    Next easist route to then create a DVD is to then bung it into TmpgEnc DVD Author.

    BTW, DVD Lab ain't bad - read the guide by Reboot - menu creation etc is soooooo simple, but I don't mean to upset you if you are struggling.

    Going the VOB / IFO edit route - sounds like hard work to me and if your VOB files are not DVD compliant you're pissing into the wind!

    Hope this helps somewhat,

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    For the record then

    DVDLab guide here:
    https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=220092

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    Originally Posted by mats.hogberg
    ...until you give the specifics of those mpeg files, I can't help you - you're trying to fix things in the wrong end of the process: Get your source material right before continuing. Get latest GSpot, load one of those mpg files, and post a screen shot. (Blurring the file names, if needed...)

    /Mats
    here it is..one of the orginal mpg files

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    I guess its dvd lab i have to work... :/

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    Originally Posted by underwurlde
    hm..that document looks like it would be to much help..thanx alot man =)

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    "hm..that document looks like it would be to much help..thanx alot man =)"

    Go on, give it a try. You know you want to!

    I think if you got to know the basics of DVDLab you will be better off because the 'basics' in DVDLab actually get you quite far & you'll end up with a cool DVD of YOUR creation.


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    Originally Posted by mats.hogberg
    here it is.
    Where?

    /Mats

    hm..strange..i inseted a img file but..ok i will try again..

    ahh..didnt work..here i´ve put it here:

    http://web.comhem.se/~u07400596/pic.jpg

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    Go somewhere else warez boy.

    You will not get any more help.

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    Originally Posted by underwurlde
    "hm..that document looks like it would be to much help..thanx alot man =)"

    Go on, give it a try. You know you want to!

    I think if you got to know the basics of DVDLab you will be better off because the 'basics' in DVDLab actually get you quite far & you'll end up with a cool DVD of YOUR creation.


    Andy

    hahaha..thanx for the inspiration =)
    but what can i really do in this dvdlab?? is it JUST menu making? or does it creates menu´s AND convert my mpg files i put in there into dvd (vob, ifo etc)

    whitch puts me in a shity situation in that case cause i´ve already converted all my mpg movie files into vob files :/

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    DVDLab will..

    Accept VOBs

    Or streams

    Or create streams from VOBs for you (MPV & MPA, takes just a few mins).
    (A VERY good idea to let DVDLab do this for you as guide suggests).

    Give it any of the above and it will create all DVD info (VOBs / IFOs) based on the menus & chapters (whatever) you create.

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    Go somewhere else warez boy.

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    Originally Posted by underwurlde
    DVDLab will..

    Accept VOBs

    Or streams

    Or create streams from VOBs for you (MPV & MPA, takes just a few mins).
    (A VERY good idea to let DVDLab do this for you as guide suggests).

    Give it any of the above and it will create all DVD info (VOBs / IFOs) based on the menus & chapters (whatever) you create.

    Andy

    why...whhyyyyyy...
    sooo typical...EVERY vob file i´ve tried to import has these errors:

    wrong frequency, dvd supports mpeg audio 48 khz
    file freq: 44.1 khz

    etc etc

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    Mats suggested you (Blurring the file names, if needed...) for a damn good reason BTW.

    Warez is not tolerated here because you will get this excellent forum into trouble - 'we' cannot be seen to encourage ppl to use ripped films etc.

    You are, however a noob but please bear this in mind!

    You have been warned & it would be a shame if you were to get banned.

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    That version of GSpot isn't any good for mpegs. Get 2.5 beta.
    And bazooka - let the mods decide who gets help and not, huh?
    <edit>They've already did, I see!</edit>

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