Whats the best way to change a song into an instrumentalsong

[BJ_M]

human voice is normally between 500-2k , harmonics go much higher and lower than that ...

[Jester700]

Normally human voice generates around 500hz. Which is located in the center of the range. Unfortunately the melody and harmony parts of some accoustics fall into that range as well. This is called the mid range.

Your other advice was good, even if partly repeating what others have said. Your list of software was good.

But the above quote is wrong. "The human voice" spans 4 octaves (though any given voice is usually limited to about 2). This range is, real roughly, 80Hz or so to 1.3kHz-ish. So yeah, it INCLUDES 500Hz, but that doesn't help much.

I know this isn't pertinent to the thread anyway, but I have a pathological need to correct publicly posted misinformation... no offense, bro.

[Manokat]

Hmm.... there is no uniform range some people say 500 to 2K while others say 300hz to 3.5k.

In music, with some variations, human range is E2 to A6 which is 80 - 880 hertz. I believe more in this range. Some people who can sing fallseto can go higher than 880 hz, but not much more than that.

Me myself, a tenor singer (since 1990) can sing at 128 to 440 hertz which is C3 to A4. Some tenors have a smaller or larger range.

I had tried NOT to use a range as there is no fixed range.

What I found, most of voice data sucessfully removed from wave are those at the neighborhood of 500hz.

So no need to be uptight.

[Jester700]

Hmm.... there is no uniform range some people say 500 to 2K while others say 300hz to 3.5k.

In music, with some variations, human range is E2 to A6 which is 80 - 880 hertz. I believe more in this range. Some people who can sing fallseto can go higher than 880 hz, but not much more than that.

Me myself, a tenor singer (since 1990) can sing at 128 to 440 hertz which is C3 to A4. Some tenors have a smaller or larger range.

I had tried NOT to use a range as there is no fixed range.

What I found, most of voice data sucessfully removed from wave are those at the neighborhood of 500hz.

So no need to be uptight.

Not uptight, just factual. "Around 500Hz" might be true, but not helpful. Since no range was specified, 100Hz to 3kHz could be considered "around 500Hz", but that doesn't really help.

A6 would be 2 octaves above you - about 1.8kHz. My wife (soprano really, but "tenor" in her barbershop quartet) can do the E a fourth below that.

Of course this is only the fundamental, and harmonics and sibilants go way above this, which brings about my main point and the reason I wanted to get it straight - there IS no "vocal range" with respect to voice cancellation. Vocals cover the whole mahoofa, *except* for the bass region below the lowest sung note. The upshot is, you can bandpass the bass, but that's it - any other cancellation is just center elimination and has nothing to do with frequency.

OK, I know I'm getting picky. Sorry, all. I won't beat this horse any more.

[Doramius]

Some people have different ranges than others. Mariah Carrey will be a bit difficult as you would cut out a lot of instumentation. Traditionally, the human voices does hang above 500, but some go higher and others a bit lower. In music, many times the people show off the voice, which is technically the reason we buy a singer's music. Other times, it's meant to be more about the insturmental music flow than the vocals. It varys from song to song. You can only plauy around and see what you get. It's not always an easy thing to do to cut out vocals. I've done it several times with professional equipment, but it's so much easier, quicker, and more satisfying to either find an instrumental track, create your own, or mix together cuts of instrumental portions of a song to make a loop similar to the actual song. I used 'Magic Carpet Ride for a song mix years ago and that was my background music while I was on the air back in college.

[BJ_M]

# Frequency Range of the Human Voice

* Voice range covers 300 Hz to 3500 Hz (500-2k is where most is concentrated for speech)


* Most energy concentrated below 1000 Hz


* Vowels have most of their energy below 1000 Hz


* Vowels contain the "power and impact of the voice"


* Consonants have most of their energy above 1000 Hz


* Consonants are responsible for intelligibility


* Harmonics in voice can go above 3500 Hz


* Poor high frequency response reduces intelligibility

500-1kHz Low end of Voice
500-5kHz Power range - mid-range band which contains the 1st and 2nd harmonics of most important sounds.
1.5-2.5 kHz Telephony - accentuating the limited bandwidth characteristic commonly associated with telephones with a roll-off both above and below.
2.5-4 kHz Cutting - Here, "cut" means to put an incisive "point" on the sound.
2.5 kHz Punch - Accentuating this range punches through vocals.
3-6 kHz Presence - Anywhere from 3-6 kHz can be used to make a sound more present.
7-10 kHz Sibilance - Dangerous "s" sounds and lots of other trashiness can often be found at 7-10 kHz.






see here for good info on singers and range http://www.dutchdivas.net/frames2/highC.html

[Doramius]

What about Counter Bass & Falsetto? :P Yes they are freaks of nature, but they still do occur, & even more commonly where people stetch the vocal range for singing. I'll have to find the link, but there was a male singer who could falsetto higher than most sopranos ever reach. The guy was originally a singer in the Vienna Boys Choir. I would have thought it was due to castration, but aparently he had a child. (maybe it was the milkman's )

[hobmob]

Why dont you just get a FREE download of the MIDI version

PRESTO.............no words

[drjtech]

When searching for instrumental versions of a song be sure to include "karaoke" as a search criteria. The "easiest" way to get an instrumental version of a song is to have someone else do it for you.

Here's one source:

http://www.usa-karaoke.com/display_songs.asp?title=Gangster's Paradise

-drj

[Doramius]

When searching for instrumental versions of a song be sure to include "karaoke" as a search criteria. The "easiest" way to get an instrumental version of a song is to have someone else do it for you.

Here's one source:

http://www.usa-karaoke.com/display_songs.asp?title=Gangster's Paradise

-drj

I didn't care for the site.

[handyguy]

If you have a KAR file, just rename it to *.mid

Itll play as music only. Easy.