Who Me Sexist

[Capmaster]

Bet she doesn't get hit on much :P

[Ripper2860]

Nothcat!

I don't know how you do it. I understand and agree!! It is really sad and wrong when parents hand over the responsibility of raising children. They never discipline or take an active role in the parenting process and then get pissed -- all of a sudeen take an interest and call a parent / teacher meeting when they disagree with the school or teacher's discipline.

Things are just all F'ed up and it all bascially stems from the break-down of the family and the fact that parents' interests, if any, are in being a "friend" to their kids.

Note to parents: Your kids have enough friggin friends. They don't need you to be their friends. Parenting is HARD and it is your job to prepare them to be the best possible "adults" they can be when they grow up.

I've told my kids more than once -- I don't care if you hate me now -- you WILL come to love me and appreciate the things I did and taught you later in life when you are successful. You will worship me when you have kids of your own!!

[ViRaL1]

Now, lemme see yo jackhammer...


http://65.75.179.180/paginas%20fotos%20xxx/pagina_MUSCULADITAS.htm

We said women, meaning BORN as a woman, not changing your mind halfway through life and DECIDING to be a woman.

[Ripper2860]

[tompika]

One more thing: they can't do as many situps as we can.

[Ripper2860]

[northcat_8]

Since you desire an obvious female's opinion

I only desire food, sex and football.

I also believe that the double income family was inevitable since, at the time, there was so much female oppression going on. Had male ego's been a little more relaxed, and women treated with a little more respect and as equals rather than being just a posession, things would have turned out differently since there would have been no need for female "independance".

I am not saying that there is no place in the work place for women, but I am of the belief that once a couple decides to have children, raising them is a FULLTIME job. I'm talking about the parents who have kids and then dump them off at daycare everyday at 6 am, pick them up at 5 pm and then wonder why the child feels such a strong attatchment to the daycare worker, and less of an attatchment to them as parents. Picking up any child psychology book will yield this answer. Everyone knows a little kid who has called grandma "mommy"...hello Red Flag #1.

I personally think that the mother should stay home with the children until the child is at least old enough to go to school. If she wants to work, she can babysit during the day, or work from home. Having a 9-5 responsibility puts the woman in an internal conflict between mothering instincts and financial responsibilities.

My wife stayed home with our kids, it was her choice but I fully supported her in that decision. Our kids always had someone at home if they got sick at school, or if they missed the bus, when they got off the bus. She was a room mother, she was always able to go on field trips. No matter what, our kids always had someone there for them. Now did it limit us financially? Sure. But after they hit 5th grade she started working again.

I just think it's skewed priorities, and the results of that parenting behavior is being exhibited throughout High schools in the USA today.

It's just a personal opinion, everyone is entitled to raise their kids the way they see fit. But when a child is searching for nothing more than a little attention..that is a direct reflection of pathetic parenting...when he shows up in my class, and I take the time to do something crazy like...talk and listen to the child, and if he develops a sense of attachment to Northcat, don't get upset when his behavior is consistent with what I deem acceptable instead of what you deem acceptable.

[Shadowmistress]

Since you desire an obvious female's opinion

I only desire food, sex and football.

Very well, I'll offer you no more of my views then.

[northcat_8]

and just when I was feeling all warm and fuzzy about rekindling our relationship.

[Shadowmistress]

You? Warm and fuzzy? Save yourself the frustration and get over it.
I piss off more important people than you everyday.

[offline]

[SquirrelDip]

and just when I was feeling all warm and fuzzy about rekindling our relationship.

You yank a mean chain there Northie...

[northcat_8]

You? Warm and fuzzy? Save yourself the frustration and get over it.
I piss off more important people than you everyday.

Yes me , Northcat = sensitive

Once again...get your own material.

[Shadowmistress]

You? Warm and fuzzy? Save yourself the frustration and get over it.
I piss off more important people than you everyday.

Yes me , Northcat = sensitive

Once again...get your own material.

My, my, then I can see you're in a dilema. For I have a whole treasure chest of Northcat quotes to toss back at you till my hearts content. Of all the rude things you've said in the past, I hardly believe you'd be sensitive to any of them.

And in case you didn't notice, I've been tossing you your own quotes on purpose.

[northcat_8]

You? Warm and fuzzy? Save yourself the frustration and get over it.
I piss off more important people than you everyday.

Yes me , Northcat = sensitive

Once again...get your own material.

My, my, then I can see you're in a dilema. For I have a whole treasure chest of Northcat quotes to toss back at you till my hearts content. Of all the rude things you've said in the past, I hardly believe you'd be sensitive to any of them.

And in case you didn't notice, I've been tossing you your own quotes on purpose.

I think it is so sweet of you to call my quotes "treasure"
I'm getting misty

I did notice that you are tossing my quotes back at me, that's ok, I like to hear myself speak...I crack me up.

It's nice to know that I've made such and impact on you, that you want to be like me...awww, hell....here I go again...misting up

[macleod]

I am not saying that there is no place in the work place for women, but I am of the belief that once a couple decides to have children, raising them is a FULLTIME job. I'm talking about the parents who have kids and then dump them off at daycare everyday at 6 am, pick them up at 5 pm and then wonder why the child feels such a strong attatchment to the daycare worker, and less of an attatchment to them as parents. Picking up any child psychology book will yield this answer. Everyone knows a little kid who has called grandma "mommy"...hello ieek.gif Red Flag #1.

I personally think that the mother should stay home with the children until the child is at least old enough to go to school. If she wants to work, she can babysit during the day, or work from home. Having a 9-5 responsibility puts the woman in an internal conflict between mothering instincts and financial responsibilities.

My wife stayed home with our kids, it was her choice but I fully supported her in that decision. Our kids always had someone at home if they got sick at school, or if they missed the bus, when they got off the bus. She was a room mother, she was always able to go on field trips. No matter what, our kids always had someone there for them. Now did it limit us financially? Sure. But after they hit 5th grade she started working again.

I just think it's skewed priorities, and the results of that parenting behavior is being exhibited throughout High schools in the USA today.

It's just a personal opinion, everyone is entitled to raise their kids the way they see fit. But when a child is searching for nothing more than a little attention..that is a direct reflection of pathetic parenting...when he shows up in my class, and I take the time to do something crazy like...talk and listen to the child, and if he develops a sense of attachment to Northcat, don't get upset when his behavior is consistent with what I deem acceptable instead of what you deem acceptable

I am glad that at least some people feel this way about raising kids. My wife and I were fortunate enough to have her stay at home before and after my son was born. I believe that it should be 1 parent that should stay home. That usually is the woman, but can certainly be the man (my neighbor -a guy- stays home with the kids with the missus works). The purpose of having children is not to let daycare or someone else raise them, it is for the parents to raise the children and give them a good solid Christian foundation.

I will be the first to admit, however, that raising 1 or more children can drive you batty. I have been home with my son for 1.5 months while looking for a job and there were a few times were I was thinking of driving him back to the hospital, LOL!!!

As far as financially, sure there will be some sacrificies, but if you sit down and think about it, there really wont be too many differences.

Personally, I think that there should be (and I know it would never happen and is very impractical) that there should be a law that at least one parent should stay home with kids until X age and should receive some type of tax cuts, etc during that time. I know that it is impossible, but society has to realize the importance of having parents, not daycare raise their kids.

Something that I see that ticks me off is that people treat stay at home parents poorly. I remember talking to coworkers and they would say stuff like "of your wife's lucky she gets to stay at home. Boy, I wish I was lucky enough to do that".

Hats off to the stay at home parents!!!!!

[Craig Tucker]

it is for the parents to raise the children

absolutely

and give them a good solid Christian foundation.

It obviously helps if you are a christian here, many people arent you know.

[macleod]

Craig,

Yea, I know that there are a number of folks that aren't Christians (or ones that claim to be and aren't). Probably should have said a good religious foundation, but no matter what I would say, someone would disagree. Probably one of the main reasons that religion isnt allowed on this forum (although I personally think it should be).

Whenever people find out that my wife stays at home with our son, I get all kinds of reactions. Some will say that she is lucky, some will say that I must be rich or nice, some (mostly women) will immediately begin justifying why they sent their kids to daycare (I take that to mean guilt), and I even had one person ask me if it is a control issue?!?!?!?!

For the 1 parent stays at home family, what are some of the "interesting" responses that you have received from other folks?

[the bomb]

macleod I am a stay at home Mom and get a lot of comments like the ones you mention. There is no point in talking to those people they will never understand. Just know that your kids will have an advantage that to many kids don't have. It really pays off staying home with your children.

[northcat_8]

macleod I am a stay at home Mom and get a lot of comments like the ones you mention. There is no point in talking to those people they will never understand. Just know that your kids will have an advantage that to many kids don't have. It really pays off staying home with your children.

Well the next time someone makes a comment like that to you, tell them Northcat said for them to STFU and mind their own ******* business.

~you can paraphrase that if you want or I can have business cards printed and send some out to you.

[macleod]

I agree that I think that kids that are brought up by their parents are better off than ones that are raised by daycare, etc. I was talking to my wife about this thread and she says that you are sorta damned if you do anddamned if you dont.

If you take your kids to daycare, the kids have someone else raise them. PArents of daycare kids will say, "but my child is learning independence, they learned so much more than if they were at home, and they learn interaction skills".

If the kids are stay at home, people say that they we'e lucky, etc., but then followu p by saying that the kids dont interact with other kids as much, they dont learn independence, etc.

We were joking and saying, maybe our son should go 1/2 and 1/2 (mommie agreed but I think she had other motivators, LOL).

It is a debate that will go on forever.

[the bomb]

I agree that I think that kids that are brought up by their parents are better off than ones that are raised by daycare, etc. I was talking to my wife about this thread and she says that you are sorta damned if you do anddamned if you dont.

If you take your kids to daycare, the kids have someone else raise them. PArents of daycare kids will say, "but my child is learning independence, they learned so much more than if they were at home, and they learn interaction skills".

If the kids are stay at home, people say that they we'e lucky, etc., but then followu p by saying that the kids dont interact with other kids as much, they dont learn independence, etc.

We were joking and saying, maybe our son should go 1/2 and 1/2 (mommie agreed but I think she had other motivators, LOL).

It is a debate that will go on forever.

I don't know where they get the idea that the kids do not interact with other kids. They have friends in the community and friends at school etc. just because Mom is home with them doesn't mean they are locked in the house and can't play with other children.

[ZAPPER]

I live off in the woods. And my wife and I both work. Daycare is almost required. It cost us about $15000 a year. I do beleive that my kids have learned more social skills and how to fend for theirselves by attending daycare. I beleive that the trips that they take and organized activities are more than a stay at home parent could provide. They are exposed to a greater world than either my wife or myself could provide. I have no problems with any one that raises their family differently than I, and hats off to those that have an option to do either and chose to stay at home. I have often thought that the best option would be a few days of daycare and a few at home. Not very often but a few times my wife or I have had a day off during the week and pulled just one child out for a special day. A trip to the zoo or to work on a slow day. It's funny but each kid wanted his brother along and didn't really want a whole day away from each other. (Even though it was only for a few hours) Make no mistake about it daycare is a luxury that not every one can afford. If my wife was not a nurse I don't think that I would be able to let the kids go to daycare. I know of several cases where it would be financialy better for the lower paid spouse to not work. Often times the wife does not make enough money to cover the expence of daycare and is actually creating a burden by sending the kids off. Other than trying to keep one parent from going nuts I don't agree with this. I understand that sometimes the wife wants to prove herself or have a life outside of a couple of screeming kids, but it is time to face the facts. If you can't afford it, you can't afford it. Either work at home for some money or work different shifts than your spouse and keep the kids at home.

I'll end it now before this becomes another ZAPPER long drawn out sermon. (maybe too late)