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    A new optical disk being developed by an international team including scientists at Imperial College London in Britain has so much storage capacity that every episode of The Simpsons fits on just one disk.

    At the Asia-Pacific Data Storage Conference 2004 in Taiwan, Dr Peter Torok, lecturer in photonics in the college's physics department, described the new method for potentially encoding and storing up to one terabyte (1000 gigabytes) of data, or 472 hours of film, on one 51/4-inch optical disk the size of a CD or DVD.

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    With a disc of that size, I wouldn't be so worried about how many episodes one can fit on that film, but more what quality you can store the stuff in. A format that is 4000P would be absolutely great just for putting the wind up the MPAA.
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    I saw an article a few months ago about a movie studio doing 4000P transfers of their films.

    They are planning on using the 4000P video files as digital archives since films from the first half of the century are approaching their lifespan.

    I forgot what studio it was and what movies that had already done.

    They said they had to do a few movies to figure it out because they kept getting too much grain or not enough, but no they say it looks just like film.

    Also they are going to compress these files to make DVD's and they said when ever the next level video media comes out they will be ready.

    What do you view a 4000P video file on? 16 plasma TV's or something.


    I think they should quit around with crap digital Standard like what ever they used for Star Wars.

    Just make a digital video camera with higher resolution the IMAX.

    I want my eyes to be the choke point in my movie watching experience.
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    I read somewhere that 35mm film had an approximated resolution of around 4000 * 6000 pixels. It didn't qualify what that actually ment so possibly, it could mean that there are 6000 coloured dots, which, as there are 3 colours, means an effective resolution of 2000 * 1333
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    It means that 35mm film has 4000 vertical dots per frame. Nothing more, nothing less. And the colour of those dots has nothing to do with it. So a frame of Star Wars, for example, would have an effective resolution of 9400 x 4000.

    So digital photography has quite a long way to go yet...
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  6. That is a somewhat simplistic view.

    The problem with film is grain. A digital image does not inherently have grain so each "pixel" can carry data. Although you can argue that film has a "higher resolution", each sampled pixel does not hold independent data a completely digital image can.

    For example, I argue that most modern digital SLRs (which would be 6 MP and up) have superior effective "resolution" than most consumer grade 35 mm film. What film does have is superior exposure latitude and dynamic range.

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    Originally Posted by Nilfennasion
    With a disc of that size, I wouldn't be so worried about how many episodes one can fit on that film, but more what quality you can store the stuff in. A format that is 4000P would be absolutely great just for putting the wind up the MPAA.


    we have been doing this for some time -- nothing new there ...

    2k and 3k is more common though ... 6k and 8k for 8perf and 10perf 70

    5perf 70 and 35 @ 2k and 3-4k depending on budget ...
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    digital has less resolution (than 70mm anyway -- now about the same as 35 in storage and playback at the leading edge) but digital does have wider color range by far than commerical film stock ..
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    Isn't the issue isn't so much about which is better, film or digital, but how to preserve the old film in its origional glory.
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    i think the issue was about a optical disk ....

    funny - you keep hearing about new types of storage going back 10 or more years .... and do we ever see them ?


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    Originally Posted by BJ_M
    funny - you keep hearing about new types of storage going back 10 or more years .... and do we ever see them ?
    This one is around 2010.

    I guess the point is that once we have blu-ray, there will be something due real-soon-now
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    Eh, I'll wait for the petabyte version.
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    Those discs would save me some space...
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  14. Wish they could do this in a Hard Drive. Great to store to a disc, but on a server would be great!

    Think about it., you could create a media server in your home and rip all your movies / music and pics to it. Then use HTPC's, media clients, network DVD players all out the house to playback.

    Digital Bliss on demand!
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    For the love of God, use hub/core labels on your Recordable Discs!
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    a 1 tB hard drive is only a year or so away .... or just buy 2 x 500Gb now
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  16. They already have 1TB External HD.
    LaCie makes one.

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    not a singe drive though ... its two drives
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    Originally Posted by BJ_M
    a 1 tB hard drive is only a year or so away .... or just buy 2 x 500Gb now
    7 years ago I was working on a 400Gb (Mirrored from 800Gb) Data Warehouse. Looks like you could match that machine now with a 4 cpu PC.
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    500GB?? Who's making that? IIRC the 1TB Lacie is actually 4x250GB drives; but I could be wrong. It's happened one other time. :P
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    maybe its 4 ... point is that is is not one 1tB drive ...


    yes there is a 500GB hard drive ... they are just starting to come out now ... therealready is 400GB drives ..


    it used to cost about 50k in raid hardware to get 500GB
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    Ok, I think I found them. 'Deathstars?'
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  22. my burned dvd\r's take typically 15-20 seconds to load. sometimes longer. anyone else experience this. i can't imagine how long those will take!!
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    prob. faster
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