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[guns1inger]

Regions have nothing to do with format, so setting it to a PAL regions will have no impact on playback of PAL or NTSC. Example - I live in Region 4 (australia). Our standard format is PAL, however some studios have cut costs by releasing Region 4 NTSC disks. As most players and TV's here support NTSC playback, this isn't a major issue.

Your player must support PAL playback first. If it doesn't then the TV wont get the signal to begin with. Some players play a native PAL signal, in which case, your TV also needs to support the PAL format. Others do a format conversion, in which case the TV only needs to support NTSC.

When you encoded your video as PAL, you should have a. changed the resolution, b. changed the framerate, c. authored the disk as PAL. Are you sure you did actually produce a PAL disk to begin with ?

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[Lolena1888]

I live in region 1 (Canada), so I have NTSC TV set and NTSC DVD player. Neither me nor all of my friends can play PAL in our systems. We have to convert it and loose some quality.

Once I tried to cheet with my player in order not to convert DVD, I just changed the header in IFOEdit and burned another DVD. The picture was corrupted (TV set can not read it properly).

In your case I think, your player somehow converts the signal. Or Your TV can "understand" PAL signal.

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[reboot]

Maybe we're lucky in Canada.
I have 3 players, and they all play both pal and ntsc on my ntsc only TV, no trouble.
The players simply decode the dvd, and output the proper ntsc signal to the tv.

[bugster]

Maybe we're lucky in Canada.
I have 3 players, and they all play both pal and ntsc on my ntsc only TV, no trouble.
The players simply decode the dvd, and output the proper ntsc signal to the tv.

How can you be sure your TV is NTSC only if you have this success. Could be your TV can quite happily handle PAL signals, just the terrestial tuner is NTSC only.

My TV is PAL only as far as the tuner is concerned, but all the other inputs (S-Video, composite, component, RGB etc) handle PAL, PAL-60 and NTSC

[sapiendut]

Many DVD players in Canada can play PAL disc and output it in NTSC.

Most Yamaha DVD players can do this, Samsung DVD players can too. So do LG. Pioneer I think (but not 100% sure) can do it too.

I think only Panasonic and Denon can't do it.

[reboot]

A "store bought" PAL DVD plays fine on my ntsc only TV, using my cheapo players. The same dvd, in a PAL only player (old Panny from europe) does not display correctly (b&w, bottom chopped off, lines throughout).
I think sapiendut is probably correct.

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[sapiendut]

Well, yeah. The DVD player plays PAL disc and convert it internally into NTSC, then the DVD player is connected to an NTSC TV.

The setting on your user setting of the DVD player under the "TV" folder should be: NTSC. Therefore, either PAL or NTSC disc you play, the output will be NTSC.

If you set to PAL, then regardless of format, it will convert them to PAL. If you set to MULTI, then you HAVE to have a multi system TV because the output of the DVD player will be respective to the disc you're playing with no conversion whatsoever.

[reboot]

The TV can only display the signal it gets.
It is either NTSC or PAL, and cannot do any "converting".
Most players in Canada will play both NTSC and PAL disks, and all you can control on the player is it's output to the TV, either PAL or NTSC.
If you have an NTSC TV, the player "decodes" the PAL dvd, and sends an NTSC signal to the TV.
If you switch the output to PAL on the player, to an NTSC TV, you get an unwatchable video.
The player does the converting, from whatever the dvd is, to the output you have selected.
Clear as mud?

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[canadateck]

I just tried Playing the Pal DVD with the player set at Multi, Didnt work,I guess I need to find a DVD Player that will NOT convert the signal to NTSC.

[reboot]

I don't know if there are any "multi system TV's" around...
If you have a PAL dvd, set your player to PAL only, and you should see your screwed up result on the NTSC TV.
Why are you trying to purposely NOT play a PAL dvd in NTSC equipment, or vice versa?

[bugster]

What no-one has yet mentioned, and I don't know if it is important or not in this discussion but perhaps should be considered, is PAL-60 and NTSC-50.

SOme European players and VCR's, when presented with NTSC material, will output so called PAL-60. This is a PAL type signal (so the colour info is converted to PAL) but at 60 fields (or 30 frames) per second. This means that less effort is required to generate this than also attempting framerate conversion.

I believe the opposite is also true in the US (and Canada?) that some players (DVD and VCR) when presented with PAL material, convert the colour signal to NTSC but output it at 50 fields per second (NTSC-50).

Of course your TV has to be able to handle this type of signal, but it is a much simpler thing (and cheaper) to build an NTSC TV that can also handle NTSC-50 than one that is a true multi-system and can handle both PAL and NTSC inputs with eases.

Just throwing another spanner in the works

[reboot]

A good point bugster.
Off to FutureShop, BestBuy, and RadioShack to ask the experts!

[sapiendut]

Off to FutureShop, BestBuy, and RadioShack to ask the experts!

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[guns1inger]

My TV is multi-system, and I have my DVD Player set to output based on the native format of the disk. No conversions required.