avi to vhs , yeah i know--avi to vhs--

[caboose1]

Hello, all wondering if anyone can help me out, PLease bear with my lack of knowledge, only just started into the AV thing. Problem is this:
I have an avi file i want to copy to vhs!! Problem is i have no idea on the steps needed. My current hardware:

happauge wintv go,
ati 9800 pro
goodmans vcr

In my thinking i figured that i could tune the wintv card to the video (connected by RF coax, play the the avi on wintv and have the vcr record via a s-vhs from the radoen to the scart of the video. This failed as the vcr does not not pick up the images from the radeon, it only seems to tune in the local stations.

Any help/hints ideas?

PLease post if you need a better explantion of my set up as i;m not sure if what i'm doing is possible.
Thanks

CB[/b]

[edDV]

Avi is not a format, just a wrapper. What format is your video?

If you don't know your format use this utility to find out what you have.
http://avicodec.duby.info/

[jimmalenko]

Provided you have the output of the wintv plugged into the RF in on the VCR (and provided you can set up your computer to output via it), you should just be able to tune the VCR in to picking up the signal. Either that or plug it into the aerial on the VCR. More than likely it will be a UHF channel.

[caboose1]

Wow that has to be the fasted reply ever, thanks!
The format according to gspot is:

codec: DX50/DIVX
name: DivX 5.0
type :AVI
IMRR:1.00
I/L: 1 vid frame (40 ms) Split: Yes

Does this help?
CB

[edDV]

"In my thinking i figured that i could tune the wintv card to the video (connected by RF coax, play the the avi on wintv and have the vcr record via a s-vhs from the radoen to the scart of the video. This failed as the vcr does not not pick up the images from the radeon, it only seems to tune in the local stations."

OK, if the VCR is seeing local stations you at least have the happauge wintv outputting from the radeon 9800 S-Video to composite RCA to the vcr right?

Then you just need to learn to play the recorded avi out and record on the VCR.

[caboose1]

Thanks jim didn't think about it like that. Got a bit confused with the cables. The VCR records tv ok from the Wintv card via the rf coax. The VCR doesn;t seem to pick anything up when wintv2000 is playing the avi file.

I'll try swapping the cables around, will need to try tommorrow though thanks for the suggestion friend.
CB

[edDV]

OK tell me how you got a divx from a winTV tuner?

You need a DIVX player routed to the radeon 9800 output to the vcr then record it.

[jimmalenko]

OK tell me how you got a divx from a winTV tuner?

You need a DIVX player routed to the radeon 9800 output to the vcr then record it.

I *think* he's just playing the AVI in WMP or something, but wants to set the video out to output through either the video card or wintv and into the VCR's input ?

[caboose1]

"You need a DIVX player routed to the radeon 9800 output to the vcr then record it"

Ok ed, i think i follow you thinking, i have to research on how to do that though. Thanks for the ideas.
The s-vhs from the radoen to the scart of the vcr was my "mad idea at getting it to work" I thought that the avi would be outputted via the S-vhs of the radeon and picked up by the video. Iwas wrong. I'll look into your suggestion however, as i said this is all a big learning curve. Thanks again!
CB

[caboose1]

"I *think* he's just playing the AVI in WMP or something, but wants to set the video out to output through either the video card or wintv and into the VCR's input ?"

Man i feel dumb, yeah thats it, that what i'm trying to do. I'm using a scart dongle to accept the s-vhs cable from my radeon to the vcr. I tried on both input and output settings.

[jimmalenko]

"I *think* he's just playing the AVI in WMP or something, but wants to set the video out to output through either the video card or wintv and into the VCR's input ?"

Man i feel dumb, yeah thats it, that what i'm trying to do.

OK, at least we're getting somewhere!

I'm not familiar with how you get video cards with video out to actually output through it so hopefully someone else can help you with that. Once you get it outputting, it should then be simply a matter of tuning the VCR through the UHF channels to pick up the signal you're inputting through the RF in (coax) connector on the back of your VCR.

EDIT:
We're in a bit of a time loop here ...

So you've got S-Video out of the Radeon and then using a scart connector into your VCR ?

[caboose1]

"So you've got S-Video out of the Radeon and then using a scart connector into your VCR ?"

the vcr has composite-video in/out but the radeon only has a s-vhs female socket. So i got a scart/s-vhs adaptor to try and connect the the vcr to the radeon with a RCA cable.


", it should then be simply a matter of tuning the VCR through the UHF channels to pick up the signal you're inputting through the RF in (coax) connector on the back of your VCR"

Thats what i though!!! I manully went up and down the uhf band to see if the vcr would be picking up the signal... nothing except the 5 local stations (i'm in the UK!)

"I'm not familiar with how you get video cards with video out to actually output through it so hopefully someone else can help you with that."

Me neither! I think that will be my next google search, since without a output it won't work. Time to google
Thanks Jim!! This forum is great!

CB

CB

[caboose1]

Gonna get some sleep and face this one tomorrow, thanks for help ed and jim! I'll let you know if i solve it
CB

[jimmalenko]

Have you got an aerial plugged into the VCR ?

If so remove it for now. That way we won't get TV channels interfering

I think it's because your PC needs to be configured to output video via the radeon. If this isn't working, then you're not gonna have any success whatsoever. When testing this, try hook up your radeon directly to your TV and see if you can get any signal. Then RTFM for your radeon to see how you need to configure it for video out. Once you get it going directly to the TV, it should be a piece of piss to swap it to the VCR.

[Richard_G]

The s-vhs from the radoen to the scart of the vcr was my "mad idea at getting it to work" I thought that the avi would be outputted via the S-vhs of the radeon and picked up by the video.

You are nearly there. Assuming the S-Video (not s-vhs, that is a high quality video format and something totally different) from the Radeon is a TV out signal you should be able to do it. What you need to do is connect your VCR instead of a TV to the TV out. If it is S-Video only that might be where your problem is.

Not many VCRs support S-Video (only high end SVHS ones usually) and if they don't, the relevant pins in the scart socket aren't connected. Scart, or Peritel to give it the correct name, is a 21 way connection that has composite video in/out, S-Video in/out, Component video in/out and stereo audio in/out. However, depending on what the unit is, only some of the pins are used. For example, a DVD player will only have the outputs connected, not the inputs as they aren't required as it is only a player. So if a VCR doesn't support S-Video, those pins won't be connected inside the unit.

What you need to do is check to see if the Radeon has Composite video (usually a yellow phono plug) out as well as S-Video. If it does, can you connect it to your TV and see the monitor display on your TV? If that works, substitute your VCR for the TV.

If your TV supports S-Video and you can get a display on that but it still won't work when you swap the TV for the VCR, try going S-Video from Radeon to scart 1 on TV and scart 2 on TV to VCR. You will then be using your TV to convert from S-Video to Composite.

In all cases the VCR will need to be set to AV1 or Line1 which will cause it to look at the scart for an input and not the built in tuner.

[edDV]

This is the way I do it.

I have S-Video set as my ATI second monitor (Dual Monitor mode). I drag the player window to the second monitor (set to full size) and it plays to the VCR and records fine.

I do the same with my NVidia cards. Dual monitor mode keeps the main screen clear for doing other work.



PS most cards with S-Video out only come with a summing adapter to composite (RCA Yellow)
If you lost yours you can get another here
http://www.s-video.com/sv3rca.html

[Richard_G]

Ed and Jim, looks like we all replied to this one at once!!

[monzie]

This is how I would go around it.

Connect the S-Video lead to the 9800 and VCR (or use a yellow video rca lead and the S-Video convertor that came with the card), and then (using a stereo mini-jack spliter to 2 rca convertor) connect your SOUND CARD's line out to the red and white rca's on your vcr.

Thats the hard bit done, the only thing you need to do now is TURN ON the TV-OUT (and set it to UK/PAL) on the 9800 and enable the CLONE mode option so that you get a picture on the monitor AND the TV-out (in your case the vcr)...dont forget if you DONT set the CLONE mode you WILL NOT get a VIDEO signal going to the TV (vcr)...unless you make the TV-out the PRIMARY and the monitor the Secondary (then youll have no video picture on the monitor). Now just play the file in something like Zoomplayer and record on your VCR.

Maplins will sell you a mini-jack to rca splitter for a few quid.

HTH

[edDV]

several ways to do it

[caboose1]

Wow Just back from work. GOnna try some of these solutions and i'll let you guys know what works for me (one of these will!) Thanks for the ideas people!
CB