Saving frameserving sequence with Virtual Dub

[Phoebos]

When we cut parts with Vdub and then frameserve to an encoder how can we save the job we have done with VirtualDub (without having to save to a new avi) in order to have the ability to frameserve the same modified avi in the future ? Profoundly loading to the encoder the myavi.vdr.avi file as we did on the 1st time will not work in a 2d session (changes lost)

[Tommyknocker]

Your question is hard to understand (for me anyway). What are you trying to accomplish?

[jimmalenko]

I read it as follows:

When you do your edits in virtualdub with the intention of frameserving to an encoder, is there any way (apart from saving your edited clip out to a new AVI) to go back into virtualdub at a later date, resume where you left off and start the frameserver straight away without having to do your edits again ?

AFAIK, no, not with the standard virtualdub or virtualdub-MPEG2. Although if you frameserve with AVISynth & Virtualdubmod instead, YES YES YES !

[Tommyknocker]

If that's true (I was waiting on his rewrite), he can start his encode anywhere he wants. Just select the start and end points with VD and once he has all the clips, just append them.

[jimmalenko]

If that's true (I was waiting on his rewrite), he can start his encode anywhere he wants. Just select the start and end points with VD and once he has all the clips, just append them.

I think you *still* missed the point, even after my rewrite

On Teesday, you do your edits in VD, and you get to the point where you're ready to frameserve to TMPGEnc (for argument's sake). Something comes up, and you're not going to be able to do any more video work until thursday. So short of leaving your computer running with VD open, or saving out to another AVI, is there any way of then coming back on Thursday, booting up your PC, opening VD and voila, being ready to frameserve again (all edits made on tuesday still intact) ?

That's how I read it, anyway ...

[Tommyknocker]

Oh well. Let's wait for an interprter. To paraphrase Shaw: I guess Aussies and Yanks are also two peoples separated by a common language.

[lchiu7]

Actually this is something I have wanted to do for a while. I record shows off TV and then edit them in VD before frameserving to Mainconconcept for MPEG encoding. The editing in involves cutting out ads mainly. If I exit VD then all the edits are lost. What I would like to do is to save the edit lists someplace so that when I open that same video file again and then load the edit lists, all the original cuts are in place so I don't have to scan through the file and remove the ads again

The only way to do this now as the original poster notes, is to save a copy of the file with the ads removed. Now if you set both video and audio to direct stream copy, the save won't take that long and the file won't lose resolution but you end up with another 3-4G file on your HD (for me a 60 min show takes about 6G in MJPEG format)

Larry

[jimmalenko]

Actually this is something I have wanted to do for a while. I record shows off TV and then edit them in VD before frameserving to Mainconconcept for MPEG encoding. The editing in involves cutting out ads mainly. If I exit VD then all the edits are lost. What I would like to do is to save the edit lists someplace so that when I open that same video file again and then load the edit lists, all the original cuts are in place so I don't have to scan through the file and remove the ads again

The only way to do this now as the original poster notes, is to save a copy of the file with the ads removed. Now if you set both video and audio to direct stream copy, the save won't take that long and the file won't lose resolution but you end up with another 3-4G file on your HD (for me a 60 min show takes about 6G in MJPEG format)

You might want to take a look at this guide written by FulciLives. You open your file via an AVISynth script (1 line of code) and then do all your editing in virtualdubmod and then save your edits back to the script. Then when you're ready to frameserve, either open the AVISynth script directly in your encoder, or open it in Virtualdub, and frameserve to your encoder. Either way, it allows you to save the edits one day, and then pick up where you left off and start frameserving any time in the future, and you never have to save out to an intermediate file.

[HillJack]

When we cut parts with Vdub and then frameserve to an encoder how can we save the job we have done with VirtualDub (without having to save to a new avi) in order to have the ability to frameserve the same modified avi in the future ? Profoundly loading to the encoder the myavi.vdr.avi file as we did on the 1st time will not work in a 2d session (changes lost)

Try File -> Save Processing Settings. This will save a small "text" file that holds references to all your clipped frames, filters etc without modifying the original video in any way. Then, in the future, if you want to reload those edits, just open the original video and Load Processing Settings and viola!

Just make sure when the Save Processing Settings dialog appears, you check the box for "Include Selection and Edit List" (depending on your version of VD; if that box isn't shown, then it's done automagically).

[jimmalenko]

Try File -> Save Processing Settings. This will save a small "text" file that holds references to all your clipped frames, filters etc without modifying the original video in any way. Then, in the future, if you want to reload those edits, just open the original video and Load Processing Settings and viola!

Just make sure when the Save Processing Settings dialog appears, you check the box for "Include Selection and Edit List" (depending on your version of VD; if that box isn't shown, then it's done automagically).

Well bugger me. All these years of using VD and that's just sitting under my nose. That sounds like it might come in REALLY handy.

Good work!

[HillJack]

Well bugger me. All these years of using VD and that's just sitting under my nose. That sounds like it might come in REALLY handy.

Good work!

It's a helluva lot simpler for future-processing/saving settings than an intermediary .avi file

[lchiu7]

Ditto for me also. I have used VD for years also and have loaded and saved processing settings but mainly to reload filter settings etc. Never noticed that additional check box!

That's going to help a lot

Larry

[jimmalenko]

Well bugger me. All these years of using VD and that's just sitting under my nose. That sounds like it might come in REALLY handy.

Good work!

It's a helluva lot simpler for future-processing/saving settings than an intermediary .avi file

I've been using AVISynth with Virtualdubmod - same thing

... but I can see the usefulness of it for people that don't want to go the AVISynth route.

[Phoebos]

First of all I have to thank Jimmalenko for absolutely understanding what my question was, although the way I put was not syntactically perfect.

I have to also thank HillJack for showing to all of us the solving of the mystery that was hiding below our noses

[jimmalenko]

First of all I have to thank Jimmalenko for absolutely understanding what my question was, although the way I put was not syntactically perfect.

<...don't gloat ... don't gloat...>
j/k

I have to also thank HillJack for showing to all of us the solving of the mystery that was hiding below our noses

I'll 2nd that. Everyone's happy !

[HillJack]

I have to also thank HillJack for showing to all of us the solving of the mystery that was hiding below our noses

Glad to help!