Random movie thoughts - Cruise bashing etc (title change)

[yoda313]

Hello,

Ok just thinking randomly here - in the opening of TOP GUN they talk about why the training course was established. "Pilots lost there natural ability and RELIED TOO MUCH ON MISSLES"

Now the Tom Cruise character saves the day BUT all he uses are MISSLES!!!

I mean wasn't the whole point of the class to NOT EMPHASIZE missle use in combat???????????

Kevin

[BJ_M]

the movie relies to much on Tom Cruise

[yoda313]

the movie relies to much on Tom Cruise

Hello,

No kidding!

That's why I'm glad I have the dvd so I can skip to the chapter I want!

Kevin

[BJ_M]

there is no sex in there is there ? or death stars ?

[yoda313]

there is no sex in there is there ? or death stars ?

Hello,



I do watch and own other movies besides Star Wars

Kevin

[BJ_M]

hence the first question above ..

:P

[Capmaster]

If a real pilot had shown up the first day of training at Miramar with the attitude Cruise had, he would have had the shit kicked out of him, court-martialed, and thrown in the brig.

Hot dogs like that don't last long in the military. To this day I hate that movie for the false portrayal of naval aviators as adolescent dip-shits like Cruise :P The only Tom Cruise movies I really liked were Color Of Money, MI 1&2, and The Firm. The others were Cruise indulgences, and not worthy of watching, IMO.

[yoda313]

Hello,

Cap - mission impossible 2 was just a horrible action flick - nothing in it really. Can't say I remember MI 1 much....

Though personally I stay away from movies with the "big guys" in it - namely:

Decaprrio
Clooney
Pitt
Damon

Those guys' movies I avoid like the plague

Though I'll say I did like Sum of all fears - helped that it had MOrgan Freeman in it

Kevin

[Ripper2860]

I disliked TopGun. To me., TC's role was like in "Taps" except with Airplanes.

MI1 -- hated it!

MI2 -- hated it more!

Eyes Wide shut -- hated it !!

Days of Thunder -- OK, but too much like TopGun except with cars.

Vanilla Sky -- Great!

Minority Report -- Pretty Good!

Cocktail -- sucked !!

Jerry Maguire -- Great!

Risky Business -- Pretty Good.

The remaining were so-so!! Although I have not seen Last Samurai

[yoda313]

Hello,

Minority Report

THat's the movie I couldn't remember he was in! Thanks! I rented that and it was just too long and not enjoyable.

What was it only 30 years in the future and they had police with hovercraft????? And whats this about the automated traffic for cars?????

That will NEVER happen in America - we like driving too much! And if it ever DID happen it would take a lot longer than 30 or 40 years to redo a cities infrastructure to incorporate it!

Kevin

[northcat_8]

What they meant in the movie Yoda is they had lost their ability to evade the other fighter planes in close proximity combat.

IE - Pilots were using missiles to blow up targets from a distance, but once the distance was closed down too close for missiles, planes were shot down because pilots had lost their ability to manuever

And I do agree about Tom Cruise movies, first he has one tooth in the middle, instead of the 2 like everyone else, his wife...while hot and definitely do-able is annoying and whinney everytime I've ever seen her on TV. I found the movie entertaining but definitely not a top 100 by any stretch, I was a bit put off by Goose getting killed, Cruise being punked everytime by Kilmer, Kelly McGillis was a poor selection, attractive but not HOT, and Meg Ryan never got naked

Actually I think the best part of the movie was the sound track.

I will also 2nd DeCraprrio, I can't stand that guy, and have not, nor ever will watch Titanic because of him. The only movie I have watched with him in it was "Catch me if you can" and that was only because Tom Hanks was in it.

I don't care much for Clooney or Pitt either.

Damon...well...while I'm not a fan, I thought Bourne Identity was alright but could have been done much better.

I tend to watch movies with certain actors in them...

Samuel Jackson
Clint Eastwood
Harrison Ford
Sean Connery
Robert DeNero
Al Pacino
Morgan Freeman
etc.

Now the movies I watch concerning acrtresses span a wider spectrum

[yoda313]

Hello,

What they meant in the movie Yoda is they had lost their ability to evade the other fighter planes in close proximity combat.

IE - Pilots were using missiles to blow up targets from a distance, but once the distance was closed down too close for missiles, planes were shot down because pilots had lost their ability to manuever

Ok I can take THAT explanation. I just thought they also were pushing kills with machine guns not JUST missles......

I tend to watch movies with certain actors in them...

Samuel Jackson
Clint Eastwood
Harrison Ford
Sean Connery
Robert DeNero
Al Pacino
Morgan Freeman
etc.

Wow! Except for Pacino and Denero I like much of the movies those actors are in

And about the actresses - ditto

Kevin

[Capmaster]

What they meant in the movie Yoda is they had lost their ability to evade the other fighter planes in close proximity combat.

IE - Pilots were using missiles to blow up targets from a distance, but once the distance was closed down too close for missiles, planes were shot down because pilots had lost their ability to manuever

And I do agree about Tom Cruise movies, first he has one tooth in the middle, instead of the 2 like everyone else, his wife...while hot and definitely do-able is annoying and whinney everytime I've ever seen her on TV. I found the movie entertaining but definitely not a top 100 by any stretch, I was a bit put off by Goose getting killed, Cruise being punked everytime by Kilmer, Kelly McGillis was a poor selection, attractive but not HOT, and Meg Ryan never got naked

Actually I think the best part of the movie was the sound track.

I will also 2nd DeCraprrio, I can't stand that guy, and have not, nor ever will watch Titanic because of him. The only movie I have watched with him in it was "Catch me if you can" and that was only because Tom Hanks was in it.

I don't care much for Clooney or Pitt either.

Damon...well...while I'm not a fan, I thought Bourne Identity was alright but could have been done much better.

I tend to watch movies with certain actors in them...

Samuel Jackson
Clint Eastwood
Harrison Ford
Sean Connery
Robert DeNero
Al Pacino
Morgan Freeman
etc.

Now the movies I watch concerning acrtresses span a wider spectrum

It looks just like my list. The only DeNiro movie I hated was Ronin.

[northcat_8]

There are a few others that I also like....

John Travolta
Bruce Willis
Denzel Washington
Nicholas Cage
Arnold

but it depends on the movie....

[yoda313]

There are a few others that I also like....

John Travolta
Bruce Willis
Denzel Washington
Nicholas Cage
Arnold

but it depends on the movie....

Hello,

With that list it REALLY depends on the movie!

Kevin


PS - I hope you mean Arnold Schwarzenneger and not Tom Arnold!

[Rookie64]

The others were Cruise indulgences, and not worthy of watching, IMO.

I have a hard time sitting through any of his movies


Only could watch Endless Love again...but that was his very first movie and he only had about 2 mins of screen time.


The Outsiders - can't stand the movie but would maybe forward to Diane Lane's scenes 8)

[Ripper2860]

There are a few others that I also like....

John Travolta
Bruce Willis
Denzel Washington
Nicholas Cage
Arnold

but it depends on the movie....

I agree. Arnold Ziffel is truly great. Very under-rated as an actor and worthy of greater recognition!!

[Capmaster]

There are a few others that I also like....

John Travolta
Bruce Willis
Denzel Washington
Nicholas Cage
Arnold

but it depends on the movie....

Yep. Good choices there. I could watch only movies with those actors for the rest of my life and be perfectly happy

But ...there are surprises. Don't hate me guys, or pull out the ghey territory links, but I sat and watched Joy Luck Club last night with the little woman (she hates that term, hee hee). And I liked it

Maybe it's because Rosalind Chao is in it and I've had a crush on her since Star Trek TNG. Or that other hot asian chick what's her name.

OK, now you know what I got from the movie. Nope. Nothing wrong here. 8)

[yoda313]

Hello,

Maybe it's because Rosalind Chao is in it and I've had a crush on her since Star Trek TNG. Or that other hot asian chick what's her name.

Worthy of admiration there cap First Contact was her last appearance in the Star Trek universe to my knowledge

Kevin

[Capmaster]

Hello,

Maybe it's because Rosalind Chao is in it and I've had a crush on her since Star Trek TNG. Or that other hot asian chick what's her name.

Worthy of admiration there cap First Contact was her last appearance in the Star Trek universe to my knowledge

Kevin

I've had fantasies about where I'd like her to appear ...well .....

[yoda313]

Hello,

Maybe it's because Rosalind Chao is in it and I've had a crush on her since Star Trek TNG. Or that other hot asian chick what's her name.

Worthy of admiration there cap First Contact was her last appearance in the Star Trek universe to my knowledge

Kevin

I've had fantasies about where I'd like her to appear ...well .....

Hello,

Just be sure you lock the doors to the holodeck first!

Kevin

[Capmaster]

Hello,

Maybe it's because Rosalind Chao is in it and I've had a crush on her since Star Trek TNG. Or that other hot asian chick what's her name.

Worthy of admiration there cap First Contact was her last appearance in the Star Trek universe to my knowledge

Kevin

I've had fantasies about where I'd like her to appear ...well .....

Hello,

Just be sure you lock the doors to the holodeck first!

Kevin

Mmmmm ....holodecks. That would solve so many problems .....oops Was that out loud?

[yoda313]

Hello,

Mmmmm ....holodecks. That would solve so many problems .....oops Was that out loud?

Hmm.. There's always the edit button cap

Kevin

(and wouldn't it be fun to use a real lightsaber in a holodeck to slice some stormtrooper in half??? )

[Capmaster]

Hello,

Mmmmm ....holodecks. That would solve so many problems .....oops Was that out loud?

Hmm.. There's always the edit button cap

Kevin

(and wouldn't it be fun to use a real lightsaber in a holodeck to slice some stormtrooper in half??? )

Speaking of light sabers .....<giggle> ...never mind. Got sidetracked there

[Tommyknocker]

Ok I can take THAT explanation. I just thought they also were pushing kills with machine guns not JUST missles......

No, not necessarily. Most fighters in the U.S. inventory use medium-range and short-range missiles as the primary weapons in air-to-air combat. The gun, is only used as a backup weapon. The F-16 for instance, only has about 500 rounds of ammo, and will expend that in just a few seconds.

[yoda313]

Ok I can take THAT explanation. I just thought they also were pushing kills with machine guns not JUST missles......

No, not necessarily. Most fighters in the U.S. inventory use medium-range and short-range missiles as the primary weapons in air-to-air combat. The gun, is only used as a backup weapon. The F-16 for instance, only has about 500 rounds of ammo, and will expend that in just a few seconds.

Hello,

Oh didn't know that.....

Thanks.

So that's REALLY just a backup huh??? I guess the bullet ammo would add to much of a payload and require more fuel is that it????

Kevin

[Tommyknocker]

Well, it is more or less if you've expended all your missiles and trying to disengage from a dogfight, it's better than nothing. Most fighters and aircrews (pilots) today are so well trained, a gun is pretty useless, as the aircraft engaged in combat are twisting and turning so much, the bullets seldom, if ever, go in a straight line, once the leave the gun.

[yoda313]

Hello,

Thanks for the real world explanations Tommyknocker

Kevin