DVDShrink problems

[zeretul1]

Have version 3.2 of dvdshrink, but have been having problems ripping my movies. Using discout discs (GreatAzo), and have been having a 30-40% failure rate resulting in unusable discs. Other than raising hell with the online source, I think it may be a problem with my burner. The burn operation at 4x doesn't even get to 1% when it says it failed. Always fails with some kind of track reading error.

Have tried name brand discs, with no noticable problems, but the cheaps always fail every 4th or 5th disc.

I'm gonna let a buddy use some to tell me what he gets for errors.

Another buddy has noticed that some of the movies I burned on fujifilm discs wont play at all in his home dvd player, and has been having problems playing the cheaps too, but they work fine on my dvd-vhs combo, and my compy.

Any help on this will be greatly appreciated. I really need it guys!

Much love!

[steve2713]

This is a bad media problem in all likelyhood, unrelated to DVDShrink.

What model of burner do you have?

What are you using to burn the discs (DVDShrink itself does not burn discs)?

I've successfully used alot of cheap media, Sonic MUST001 discs for one burn fairly well. However, I've not heard good things about the media you are using.

[budz]

use better dvd media....what software are you using to burn? NERO?

try ripping with DVD DECRYPTER in FILE MODE first then use DVD SHRINK to compress then burn with NERO or whatever burning software you're using.

[Captain315]

Have tried name brand discs, with no noticable problems, but the cheaps always fail every 4th or 5th disc.

There is your answer. I and many others on here have had the same problem and it's almost always a media problem. Dump those disks and get some that are recommended for your particular burner.

Another thing might be for you to start using DVDdecrypter to burn your disks. Some of us have had a few problems with Nero in the past. That doesn't mean that Nero was a fault but the problem existed and went away after switching burning software.

[zeretul1]

Can you recomend any guides for this? I have seen a few, but I am wondering if there is a way to rip and burn a dvd with only one application as I do with dvdshrinker.

[zeretul1]

As far as I know, Nero is the only burning software that works with DVDShrinker.

I have an MSI DR8-A dvd+-RW

[skebenin]

Depends on your definition of 'works with'. DVDShrink can kick off either DVDDecrypter or CopyToDVD to burn a DVDR after transcoding.

You can get the 'one application' feel with Shrink and Decrypter just as you can with Shrink and Nero.

Oddly I don't know of any guides for burning with Shrink and Decrypter, but that may be because it's too simple. Just select ISO Image file and burn with DVDDecrypter as the Backup Target when you click the Backup button. You must have Decrypter installed of course (just as you must have Nero installed to burn with Nero).

[dfisher]

Try this link: http://www.thescrapyard.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/files/video/using%20freeware%20utilities
%20to%20backup%20your%20movies.htm

[dfisher]

OK, I don't know why the link came out the way that it did but try this:

http://www.thescrapyard.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

Then click in Tutorials, then Video. Hopefully that will bring you to a complete selection. In the right column go to Backing Up DVD's. Then click on Backing up any DVD using DVD Decrypther and DVD Shrink.

[jimmalenko]

Direct link to that guide here

[bazooka]

Using discout discs

That is your problem.

Buy better blanks

[zeretul1]

I tried using dvdshrink to transcode a dvd, then used dvd decrypter to burn it. Does this process usually take 5 hours to complete one dvd?

[Captain315]

On a typical DVD-9 is shouldn't take over 2 hours. This would include a deep analysis and encoding by Shrink and then burning with DVDdecrypter.

[zeretul1]

Well, i have a 4x burner, and using a the procedure at this link

http://www.thescrapyard.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/files/video/using%20freeware%20utilities%...r%20movies.htm

it took my 2100+ athlon, 512mb 2700 ddr ram compy about five hours for a complete copy and burn from a 7.8gb movie onto a 4.7gb blank. Most of that time was taken up by dvdshrinker encoding the iso file (about 2.5 hours), the actual burn only took 15 minutes. The rest of the time was ripping and deep analysing.

this is the first time i have used this method.

Any ideas?

[shelbyGT]

Try not ripping in ISO mode. For some reason, through my very small trial, my computer took longer that way.

Not a scientific study and it was probably a "user error", but who knows?

[zeretul1]

My main problem is not the ripping, but the 2.5 hours of encoding that dvdshrinker takes to make the dvd files into an iso file.

[skebenin]

2½ hours is a bit long (actually very long for you specs). I wonder if your drive is reading slowly. Try ripping a disk with DVDDecrypter and see how long that takes. If it takes over about 20 minutes, your drive may be speed locked or it might be in PIO mode. Either way it would slow down the whole process.

[zeretul1]

Ok, I ripped a dvd with dvd decrypter, and it took less than 20 minutes.

Anything else that may cause an extremely long encoding. The source dvd was 7.8gb in size, being encoded to a 4.7gb dvd-r.

[budz]

if your drive is in PIO mode that could be your problem....put in your computer specs so it will be easier to help you out....what operating system are you using? what is the brand name of your dvdrom and what is the brand name of the dvd burner you got? are you using a dvdrw to rip or a dvdrom?

[zeretul1]

ok:

xp pro
drdrom=MSI
dvd+-rw=MSI
using the dvdrom to rip the movies

anything else you need?

[MOVIEGEEK]

Use Nero InfoTools to see if DMA is enabled.

[budz]

xp pro
drdrom=MSI
dvd+-rw=MSI
using the dvdrom to rip the movies

anything else you need?

put those computer specs in your profile so we can see it instead of having to ask you to post it in this thread or any other thread you start.......

if DMA is not enabled then use this link on HOW TO ENABLE DMA IN XP:
http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=7625

[zeretul1]

Yes, DMA is enabled on both drives.

[steve2713]

Depending on the content of the dvd and what settings you used in DVDShrink, it is entirely possible it could take a couple of hours. If you used 'smooth' or maximum smoothness', it will take alot longer, and if there's alot of content to transcode, it will obviously take longer as well. If you had to transcode 3+ hours of video and used max smooth, 2 1/2 hours wouldn't be unusual.

I'm guessing your drive is not in PIO mode, 'less than 20 minutes' to rip a large dual layer disc isn't THAT slow.

editee, I told ya it wasn't in PIO mode

[zeretul1]

I have dvdshrinker set to default sharp. And i am guessing that the total view time is about 130 minutes.

[steve2713]

Yeah, it shouldn't take that long. When you say 130 minutes, are you including any documentaries, etc. on the disc?

Maybe try ripping the dvd to the hard drive, then running those files through dvdshrink instead of the disc itself. I'm doubting it will make much of a difference, but it may be worth a try. If the TOTAL content of the disc is only 130 minutes, I'd say that it should take about an hour at most using the 'sharp' setting.

This is more of a longshot, but also make sure you don't have any other programs running in the background that might be hogging resources.

[zeretul1]

Yeah, 130 minutes total, with documentaries and everything.

As far as ripping to the hard drive, isn't that what dvd decrypter does? before I started having these problems, i would just use dvdshrinker with nero to rip and burn. If i had a problem, i would open the files that it made when it ripped, and use those.

i am fairly certain at this point that it is the cheap discs that cause my problem with dvdshrinker, although ive never been a big fan of Nero. The strange thing is that a friend is also using GreatAzo discs with a Pioneer PC burner (not sure which), and he has had no problems. He thinks its my MSI burner, but I doubt it. Ive never had problems like this with it until now, and have only recently started using dvdshrinker and dvddecrypter.

when you say background progs, what do you mean? i have a virus scanner, firewall, reg monitor, msn messenger, temp monitor, msi auto updater, webcam stuff, audio stuff and that pesky "Safely remove hardware" thang going. Which of those would you recommend?

[steve2713]

Oh, so you ripped the disc to the hard drive first using DVD Decrypter? I thought maybe you were going straight through DVDShrink with the disc, without ripping the full disc to the hard drive first.

I will say that I've had little trouble with Nero, although I prefer Decrypter as I've had zero problems.

Yes, your discs are very very likely to blaim, they are crap discs, media code VDSPMSAB 01 according to media reviews. I've used this media code before under another brand name, and they are not good.....

Regarding the background programs, it could potentially be anything that could be hogging resources - my Canon printer driver hogs resources if my printer isn't plugged in, stupid as that seems. CTL-ALT-DLT and check how much memory and CPU your programs are using, maybe there is something that is using alot of your CPU or is holding onto a huge amount of memory.

[zeretul1]

Well, i have gone straight through dvd shrinker before, but the time problem comes from using dvd decrypter to rip the files, dvd shrinker to transcode them, then back to dvd decrypter to burn.

as far as memory, it appears that with me not actively using any programs, i have 44 running processes, and am using just over half of my memory. so that leaves me with about 220mb to work with under normal running conditions.

[zeretul1]

I may have discovered another reason for my problems. Running my background stuff, an FTP upload, and ripping a dvd has my cpu up to 100%. LOL