Suggestions for the Following Film Garbage

[Soopafresh]

Any tool to remove this ?





Of course, it's not on every frame.

Many thanks.

[Tommyknocker]

Virtual Dub's Delogo or Logo Away filter.

[lordsmurf]

Virtual Dub's Delogo or Logo Away filter.

Probably the only thing. I cannot think of anything else.

[BJ_M]

wire removal tools and cleanup in shake , combustion, boris , digital fusion will do the trick -- but just fixing each bad frame in photoshop or paintshp pro will also do the trick if not to many -- i have had to clean 1000's of these frames at times ...

[SatStorm]

Freeware you have only virtualdub. I believe framemerger and temporal smoother (both at a higher value and that is bad news for motion...) can eliminate that kind of noise (if it appears on only one frame and not a couple of it...)

The other way is frame correction with a picture tool (photoshop - like)

[NamPla]

wire removal tools and cleanup in shake , combustion, boris , digital fusion will do the trick -- but just fixing each bad frame in photoshop or paintshp pro will also do the trick if not to many -- i have had to clean 1000's of these frames at times ...

Can I ask, how do you take out a frame, touch it up & then replace it in the avi stream?

Thanks.

[mpack]

I believe framemerger and temporal smoother (both at a higher value and that is bad news for motion...) can eliminate that kind of noise (if it appears on only one frame and not a couple of it...)

IMHO, it is a bad idea to try to remove that kind of "noise" (using the term generically) with a temporal smoother. Smoothers are designed to reduce random additive noise, whereas this is a kind of impulsive (replacement) noise, and needs a different kind of filter altogether. Attempting to remove it by averaging frames will either be ineffective or cause terrible motion blurring.

[BJ_M]

he wants to remove the hair -- not the noise per say ...


you take the avi into a program like virtualdub and save it out as a file targa seq. ... you open each targa in question and clean the hair off .... and replace it back in the seq.

[NamPla]

you take the avi into a program like virtualdub and save it out as a file targa seq. ... you open each targa in question and clean the hair off .... and replace it back in the seq.

How do you replace it back in sequence? (Sorry, don't want to hijack, but this seems relevant to the thread & also something I have been wanting to find out)...

Thanks.

[mpack]

he wants to remove the hair -- not the noise per say ...

I know that; As I said before, I was using the term "noise" in a generic sense, ie. to mean anything that isn't considered part of the true signal.

[BJ_M]

you take the avi into a program like virtualdub and save it out as a file targa seq. ... you open each targa in question and clean the hair off .... and replace it back in the seq.

How do you replace it back in sequence? (Sorry, don't want to hijack, but this seems relevant to the thread & also something I have been wanting to find out)...

Thanks.

save it back as the same file name --

i.e.
film.0020445.tga
film.0020446.tga
film.0020447.tga

[canadateck]

I thought that there was a script for Photoshop? That would bring in each frame one at a time to edit,Then resave the file sequence.

[NamPla]

you take the avi into a program like virtualdub and save it out as a file targa seq. ... you open each targa in question and clean the hair off .... and replace it back in the seq.

Hi again, I'm just getting around to trying this out myself, but I'm wondering how you PUT BACK the altered frames into the avi sequence??

I don't have PhotoShop, Premier, etc, unfortunately... Is there a way around this?

Cheers.

[canadateck]

Gimp I think thats what its called a free paint program.

[NamPla]

Thanks Canadateck, yes GIMP is great but what Im asking is how to put back the "touched-up" frames in the avi sequence. If, say, I take it out of VirtualDub ("save image sequence") how do I put it back? That is, how do I replaced the altered frame(s) with the original (unaltered) frames?

Maybe having long nights, but I just can't figure an easy way around this?

Cheers.

[canadateck]

Use tmpgenc and under Option-> Environmental setting-> General, check the box for Open sequence files as a movie". Open the first bmp and all will be opened automatically.

[canadateck]

iF you were able to take out Say 100Frames from the mid section of the file and leave everything else , the only way I know how would be with Vegas , but if you took out the start/End of the film you could just do what I said above and join them.

[BJ_M]

Thanks Canadateck, yes GIMP is great but what Im asking is how to put back the "touched-up" frames in the avi sequence. If, say, I take it out of VirtualDub ("save image sequence") how do I put it back? That is, how do I replaced the altered frame(s) with the original (unaltered) frames?

Maybe having long nights, but I just can't figure an easy way around this?

Cheers.

do your thing and "file" - "save as" and replace it ... just like any other file operation

[canadateck]

"save as" What program? You lost me.

[canadateck]

Nevermind...Got it...lol

[Richard_G]

Go to www.ulead.com and download the trial version of Mediastudio Pro. It has a module called Video Paint which opens an avi file in a Photoshop type window with each frame shown separately on a sort of timeline. You can then edit the frames that you need to edit and save the whole lot as avi again. No need to extract the frames and try and put them back in sequence because you never take them out.

[NamPla]

do your thing and "file" - "save as" and replace it ... just like any other file operation

Man, I just can't get my head around this, lol

OK I've got 10 targa files in sequence, saved out of the avi. How do I re-insert or "replace" them?

I must be missing something bleeding obvious...?

[NamPla]

Ah forget it, I think we're at cross-wires?

Canadateck's suggestion of encoding the "retouched" sequence of frames in TMPGEnc & joining etc seems the way to go.

Cheers everybody.

[vhelp]

vdub ...

* grab all frames that you want to "touch-up"
* export out to BMP file (each one, and save each in numberical order)
.. ( ie, 01.bmp; 02.bmp; 03.bmp; 04.bmp ... ... )
* open your paint program (or whatever) and touch them up.
* save them back to BMP (in numberical order)
.. ( ie, 01.bmp; 02.bmp; 03.bmp; 04.bmp ... ... )
* start vdub
* select File\Open Video File\.. [x] Automatically load linked segments..
* start w/ 01.bmp and press Open button.
.. (this will open all BMP files in sequence)
* Now, Save As an AVI file (only way) and give it a good name
* Now, open your orignal AVI file; make your edits as usual, and load
.. in your "touched-up" avi file as usual.

.. The hard part, is if you only have a couple of frames you need touched,
.. and they are dispersed in random areas of the time-line. It still can
.. be done, but requires a lot of work, and one has to decide, "is it worth it?"


I think that's about it. You can do similary w/ TMPGenc too. Maybe less
steps. I don't know, cause I don't bother

.. At 30 fps, a frame that has hair or whatever ain't gonna be noticed.

-vhelp 3009

[NamPla]

Thanks for the clarification.

I wasn't so much into removing hairs & such, but adding laser beams & stuff!

I think TMPGEnc is the answer here - encode each segment separately, and join 'em together in authoring stage. No need to "re-save" to avi etc.

Cheers to all.

[BJ_M]

you lost me here on what your doing .. you wanted to claen up stuff seen on film ... fine i told you how we do it in the studios ...

now you want to add effects -- that is a diffferent operation and unless you are using combustion or red or fusion -- the clean up and the effects are two different operations ...

no mater really - as in both cases we woudl work with images -- render in other words to targa or such image format .....

anyway -- im not sure you are sure what you want to do