Does all DVD Media suck or is it just me?

[David9799]

I have Sony DVD+R, Memorex DVD+RW, Verbatim DVD+R and +RW Datalife plus and they all suck about a year and a half ago i put home movies on them and now they wont play in my DVD player it will play for awhile then hang up i tired on differant DVD players they did the same thing, i tried on 2 PC's they did the same thing. When i tried to copy them back to the PC to reburn i get read errors none of these DVD's have a scratch on them so what gives? I burned them with DVD decrypter and Ulead's Movie factory.

After a few days of trying i got all the data back on my PC hard drive if i tried to copy the hole DVD at once i'd get read errors if i copyed one .VOB file every few hours it worked but if i ttryed 2 .VOB files at a time i would get read errors. It's like once the DVD's got warm i'd get read errors after i waited a few hours i could copy a .VOB again.

[bazooka]

It is just you.

Buy better blanks

[Bodyslide]

Buy some TY's about the best you can get.

http://www.rima.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=R&Category_Code=DMRTY

[Peterdragin]

If you labeled them try taking the labels OFF. Labels cause problems because they have different expansion rates and it distorts the disc when they get warm.

Sounds like you have the label warping problem. Just soak the disc in warm water and soap, the label will come off, don't worry about a little glue this don't seem to pother the disc.

[David9799]

The Labels? I guess you mean the sticker that goes on the DVD? Yeah they all have them i used that stomper pro thing.

[yoda313]

The Labels? I guess you mean the sticker that goes on the DVD? Yeah they all have them i used that stomper pro thing.

Hello,

NOT a good idea

Just use a sharpie and label it that way

Kevin

[Bodyslide]

Or get a Printer that Prints onto Inkjet Printable DVD's

[tekkieman]

Good call Peterdragin!

[David9799]

How would the CD stomper make them bad?

http://www.cdstomper.com/

I printed the labels with a inkjet printer? The lables look the same as the day i put them on.

[bazooka]

How would the CD stomper make them bad?

http://www.cdstomper.com/

I printed the labels with a inkjet printer? The lables look the same as the day i put them on.

It throws off the balance of the disc

[David9799]

How would the CD stomper make them bad?

http://www.cdstomper.com/

I printed the labels with a inkjet printer? The lables look the same as the day i put them on.

It throws off the balance of the disc

really? Then why do they sell them then? I'll try one without the label and see what happens.

[bazooka]

really? Then why do they sell them then?

Because people that do not know any better will buy them.

[jaxxboss]

The people that dont know any better are the ones that think that paper labels will throw off the balance on a disc. You better make sure that the air dont accumulate too much on one side of your disc or it will go out of round.

[David9799]

Well i wont use them anymore. I always just thought it was the DVD media i had.

[lordsmurf]

- Do not soak DVDs in water
- Labels cause disc imbalance
- Labels are made for CD's, not DVD's
- CD's have 1/7th size (compared to DVD) wobble grooves, so a little imbalance won't hurt them
- Buy better media, www.nomorecoasters.com

[bazooka]

The people that dont know any better are the ones that think that paper labels will throw off the balance on a disc.

- Do not soak DVDs in water
- Labels cause disc imbalance
- Labels are made for CD's, not DVD's
- CD's have 1/7th size (compared to DVD) wobble grooves, so a little imbalance won't hurt them
- Buy better media, www.nomorecoasters.com

The people that dont know any better are the ones that think that paper labels will throw off the balance on a disc.

Are you trying to say that the king of the smurfs does not know any better.

[tekkieman]

YMMV

[westlaw]

How would the CD stomper make them bad?

http://www.cdstomper.com/

I printed the labels with a inkjet printer? The lables look the same as the day i put them on.

In the space of the last 4 years, I've burned and distributed over 4000 DVDs. Every last one of the DVDs were affixed with Stomper CD/DVD Labels. I haven't had one problem DVD where the Stomper label was found to be at fault.

In the few that were returned, the media was always at fault. Usually CRC errors. I learned the hard way that all DVD Media is not created equally. It pays in the long run to spend a little extra for top grade DVD media.

Ever since I've started using Taiyo Yuden (TYG02) media from rima.com, 8 months ago, I haven't had one CRC errors or coaster. TY's media is handle the Stomper labels just fine.

The problems I hear about using Stomper labels, I simply haven't been able to reproduce in my setting.

[BetaMaster]

I agree, it's the labels. Usually when you get a good burn and the disc works well first time out, it will stay OK for a long time. The media you listed are generally OK, but labelling them will have the effect the others have mentioned.

I have noticed that when I get a bad burn, the disc will usually deteriorate further very quickly. I had a Mitsumi disc that I burned several files to. A quick checksum test (it only works with files) performed right after the burn showed that several of them didn't burn properly, but most had so I kept the disc. However, when I went back to the disc the next day, more files couldn't be played or read, even in the same drive that said they were OK the previous day.

[OmegaSupreme]

According to the US Government:

5.2.7 Application of Adhesive Labels
Adhesive labels should not be applied to optical discs destined for long-term storage (more than five years). The label could delaminate over time and interfere with disc drive operation. The adhesive in some earlier labels has also been known to react with the lacquer surface. Any attempts to peel the label off could cause damage to the lacquer and metal layers in CDs. DVDs are different; peeling a label off a DVD would not have the same adverse affect because the metal layer is not near the surface. Still, removing a label, or any portion thereof, from the surface of a disc can cause an imbalance in the spin of the disc in the disc drive, making the disc unreadable. DVDs are more susceptible to reading problems from minor imbalances than are CDs. To ensure the long-term availability of information on a disc that already has an adhesive label, the information on the disc should be copied to, and stored on, a disc without such a label. Adhesive labels may be well suited for short-term disc usage (less than five years), and can even add a layer of protection from scratches and other potentially harmful contact. On the other hand, such labels are vulnerable to adverse environmental conditions: they can dry out or absorb moisture, and they can be affected by heat or cold even more than the disc itself. Such conditions may cause the label to delaminate. Disc manufacturers advise against using adhesive labels because they can create unbalanced disc spin, resulting in premature wear of the drive. If a label is used, it should be manufactured for use on CDs or DVDs, and an appropriate disc label applicator tool should be used to affix the label. The label applicator tool should center the label on the disc so as to maintain the disc balance as much as possible.

[tekkieman]

According to the US Government:

Very informative. Thank you.

On the other hand....

According to the US Government:

Ok, that's all I'm going to say.

[Nilfennasion]

The way I see it is relatively simple: why take the chance?

None of my recordables have labels, just a notation with a felt-tip pen to say what is on them. They work just fine that way, and I see no need to add labels. All the labels do is add to the cost of duplications, through the consumption of ink and gloss-paper, anyway. Even if you discount the technical reasons being offered here, the economic ones are compelling, especially with the crappy quality offered by inkjets.

[David9799]

Thanks for all the info!