Bear with me i searched already -installing the video card

[DVDDave]

i hope he is not trying to install an ATI AIW card. he will never get the right drivers to work!!!!!!

[northcat_8]

i hope he is not trying to install an ATI AIW card. he will never get the right drivers to work!!!!!!

[gll99]

i hope he is not trying to install an ATI AIW card. he will never get the right drivers to work!!!!!!

I had to replace my video card when I really didn't want to at this time of year so went cheap. In my price range (<$65 can) the choice was a trailing edge but new nvidia 5700 128mb or an ati 9250 ddr 128mb tv-out (not vivo). I went with the ati because for the same $ it's a superior card I wanted true dx9 which the nvidia really wasn't even though it says it is. I am not a fan of ati and the drivers they gave me on the cd locked my system and I had to boot in safemode and download the latest Nov/Dec 2004 app and drivers. The old ones were dated Aug 2004 but just locked my pc on bootup as the window gui loaded it kept telling me that apps were trying to access invalid vid mem locations. Atter deleting the crap and installing the downloaded stuff it works like a charm. I don't play games but sometimes play with vb dx apps so needed compatibility with dx9.
Anyway my point is like what you say, that card looks similar to mine and if he has the same problem with win98 I say good luck!

[johns0]

gll99,fx5700 is dx9 and radeon 9250 is only dx8.

[jimmalenko]

OOOO god help this man find $25 to get a real tech to put it in

Coming from the Amish ... I'm confused ...



I learnt a valuable lesson with computer parts a long time ago - if you don't know 100% how to do it, pay an expert who does. If you don't know what you're doing you'll end up fooking something else up, that could cost plenty more that what you'll pay the expert. If you're lucky, he/she might let you watch what they're doing, so you can learn for next time.

[gll99]

gll99,fx5700 is dx9 and radeon 9250 is only dx8.

Better check your references. I did a lot of research before buying it. The Sapphire ati card is clearly a dx9 and is documented as such.

[monzie]

i hope he is not trying to install an ATI AIW card. he will never get the right drivers to work!!!!!!

I had to replace my video card when I really didn't want to at this time of year so went cheap. In my price range (<$65 can) the choice was a trailing edge but new nvidia 5700 128mb or an ati 9250 ddr 128mb tv-out (not vivo). I went with the ati because for the same $ it's a superior card I wanted true dx9 which the nvidia really wasn't even though it says it is. I am not a fan of ati and the drivers they gave me on the cd locked my system and I had to boot in safemode and download the latest Nov/Dec 2004 app and drivers. The old ones were dated Aug 2004 but just locked my pc on bootup as the window gui loaded it kept telling me that apps were trying to access invalid vid mem locations. Atter deleting the crap and installing the downloaded stuff it works like a charm. I don't play games but sometimes play with vb dx apps so needed compatibility with dx9.
Anyway my point is like what you say, that card looks similar to mine and if he has the same problem with win98 I say good luck!

Sounds like you did the 'classic' mistake of either:

a) Didnt unistall your drivers from you last card first..naughty

or

b) In the case of a previous ATI card....uninstalled the driver but DID NOT unistall the Control Panel.

or

c) a mixture of a and b

PS. 9250's are DX8.1 afaik (but they are dx9 'compatable'.......which means about zero ...as so is a gfx2).

[ZAPPER]

DON"T FORCE IT! Get a bigger hammer! There is a tool for every job. No really it shouldn't be that big of a deal as long as the power is disconnected and you follow all the instructions. If things ain't fitting and you are spooked, then by all means take it somewhere to have it done. It is rare but you may have some bastard setup that we don't know about, or something else could be installed wrong. A real tech should be able to see if there is a problem. There is no shame in trying and failing but it can get expensecive(sp) Don't let all of the greif that everyone is giving you get you down. Get it done right and post back your results. You may be able to tell everybody to bug off, that you had a special non compliant component in the way. Or you may have to admit that it should have been simple like everyone said. Either way it is no big deal. It is hard not to kick someone when they are down around here.

[FulciLives]

I farted.

[gll99]

ZAPPER wrote

No really it shouldn't be that big of a deal as long as the power is disconnected

I would shut the computer but leave it plugged in that way you can discharge any body static on the metal frame of the case.

@monzie

Sounds like you did the 'classic' mistake of either:

a) Didnt unistall your drivers from you last card first..naughty

or

b) In the case of a previous ATI card....uninstalled the driver but DID NOT uninstall the Control Panel.

or

c) a mixture of a and b

your a) is a non issue since the ati worked fine although limited functionality until I installed the ati drivers and software supplied on the disc and rebooted. You don't need to remove drivers from previous graphics cards. In addition the messages indicated that the drivers were outdated or incompatibale even though they were dated Aug 2004. There was no need to uninstall the control panel until the second install after I downloaded the latest package with a mixture of Nov and Dec dates.

your b) previous cards were nvidia not ati.

PS. 9250's are DX8.1 afaik (but they are dx9 'compatable'.......which means about zero ...as so is a gfx2).

Guess I'll just have to ignore the documentation and information on the box that came with the card. But it sure works great with dx9.

[northcat_8]

[quote="gll99"]ZAPPER wrote

No really it shouldn't be that big of a deal as long as the power is disconnected

You shut your computer down to replace the video card

Chicken.

[Bodyslide]

I can normally just Hot Swap between my ATI card and the Other POS I have....

[hudsonf]

I Hot Swap my vide cards all the time. Once I Hot Swapped my motherboard. Power switches are for noobs and cowards.

[canadateck]

I Hot Swap my vide cards all the time. Once I Hot Swapped my motherboard. Power switches are for noobs and cowards.

Whatever you do... Dont hot Swap your CPU chip!! I did it once because i was capturing and all my Video's were Upside Down, and I was told my CPU was in backwards. Well i can tell you doing it is not good for your Monitor...

[smearbrick1]

I want to turn my PC on, but I'm afraid if I exert too much pressure on the power button it might push all of they way in and then break off. Then, my PC would stay either on or off forever.

[ZAPPER]

I farted.

You're excusued



I know what you mean though

[ZAPPER]

[quote="northcat_8"]

ZAPPER wrote

No really it shouldn't be that big of a deal as long as the power is disconnected

You shut your computer down to replace the video card

Chicken.

Actually I have only put in the one ATI AIW 7500, and that was way back when it was the cutting edge and high dollar. But I do have to unplug my PC and carry it to the dinning room table to have room to work on it. As for proper grounding or antistatic equipment I don't use anything. To discharge any static that I may have, I just wait until one of the kids comes over to see what I am up to and then I grab one of their ears

[gll99]

To discharge any static that I may have, I just wait until one of the kids comes over to see what I am up to and then I grab one of their ears

I see where you got the handle ZAPPER

[gll99]

I Hot Swap my vide cards all the time. Once I Hot Swapped my motherboard. Power switches are for noobs and cowards.

Whatever you do... Dont hot Swap your CPU chip!! I did it once because i was capturing and all my Video's were Upside Down, and I was told my CPU was in backwards. Well i can tell you doing it is not good for your Monitor...

Now you guy's are getting ridiculous! but I once hot swapped my motherboard... or was that my mother's ironing board? I forgot???

[ZAPPER]

To discharge any static that I may have, I just wait until one of the kids comes over to see what I am up to and then I grab one of their ears

I see where you got the handle ZAPPER

Yea, but the little shits are getting wise to my ways

I got zapped by a magneto from an airplane engine one time. It felt like every joint in my body exploded!

[ZAPPER]

Hitman?
How are things going? Any luck yet? Or did I miss something?

[northcat_8]

I Hot Swap my vide cards all the time. Once I Hot Swapped my motherboard. Power switches are for noobs and cowards.

Whatever you do... Dont hot Swap your CPU chip!! I did it once because i was capturing and all my Video's were Upside Down, and I was told my CPU was in backwards. Well i can tell you doing it is not good for your Monitor...

Damn Noobies

Just turn your monitor over...
That's what you get for downloading movies from a southern hemisphere based server.

[canadateck]

I Hot Swap my vide cards all the time. Once I Hot Swapped my motherboard. Power switches are for noobs and cowards.

Whatever you do... Dont hot Swap your CPU chip!! I did it once because i was capturing and all my Video's were Upside Down, and I was told my CPU was in backwards. Well i can tell you doing it is not good for your Monitor...

Damn Noobies

Just turn your monitor over...
That's what you get for downloading movies from a southern hemisphere based server.

In the end is wasnt my CPU Chip, my Monitor was "Aready Upside down" to start with

[hudsonf]

I Hot Swap my vide cards all the time. Once I Hot Swapped my motherboard. Power switches are for noobs and cowards.

Whatever you do... Dont hot Swap your CPU chip!! I did it once because i was capturing and all my Video's were Upside Down, and I was told my CPU was in backwards. Well i can tell you doing it is not good for your Monitor...

Damn Noobies

Just turn your monitor over...
That's what you get for downloading movies from a southern hemisphere based server.

In the end is wasnt my CPU Chip, my Monitor was "Aready Upside down" to start with

That happened to me once. I stood on my head to use my computer for 3 days before I realized my monitor was upside down.

[monzie]

ZAPPER wrote

No really it shouldn't be that big of a deal as long as the power is disconnected

I would shut the computer but leave it plugged in that way you can discharge any body static on the metal frame of the case.

@monzie

Sounds like you did the 'classic' mistake of either:

a) Didnt unistall your drivers from you last card first..naughty

or

b) In the case of a previous ATI card....uninstalled the driver but DID NOT uninstall the Control Panel.

or

c) a mixture of a and b

your a) is a non issue since the ati worked fine although limited functionality until I installed the ati drivers and software supplied on the disc and rebooted. You don't need to remove drivers from previous graphics cards. In addition the messages indicated that the drivers were outdated or incompatibale even though they were dated Aug 2004. There was no need to uninstall the control panel until the second install after I downloaded the latest package with a mixture of Nov and Dec dates.

your b) previous cards were nvidia not ati.

PS. 9250's are DX8.1 afaik (but they are dx9 'compatable'.......which means about zero ...as so is a gfx2).

Guess I'll just have to ignore the documentation and information on the box that came with the card. But it sure works great with dx9.

What made you THINK it wouldnt work with DX9.........your mixing up DX software (at the pc end) with HARDWARE (at the gfx card end)...........So stop trying to take the piss eh?..... tosser.

[gll99]

ZAPPER wrote

No really it shouldn't be that big of a deal as long as the power is disconnected

I would shut the computer but leave it plugged in that way you can discharge any body static on the metal frame of the case.

@monzie

Sounds like you did the 'classic' mistake of either:

a) Didnt unistall your drivers from you last card first..naughty

or

b) In the case of a previous ATI card....uninstalled the driver but DID NOT uninstall the Control Panel.

or

c) a mixture of a and b

your a) is a non issue since the ati worked fine although limited functionality until I installed the ati drivers and software supplied on the disc and rebooted. You don't need to remove drivers from previous graphics cards. In addition the messages indicated that the drivers were outdated or incompatibale even though they were dated Aug 2004. There was no need to uninstall the control panel until the second install after I downloaded the latest package with a mixture of Nov and Dec dates.

your b) previous cards were nvidia not ati.

PS. 9250's are DX8.1 afaik (but they are dx9 'compatable'.......which means about zero ...as so is a gfx2).

Guess I'll just have to ignore the documentation and information on the box that came with the card. But it sure works great with dx9.

What made you THINK it wouldnt work with DX9.........your mixing up DX software (at the pc end) with HARDWARE (at the gfx card end)...........So stop trying to take the piss eh?..... tosser.

wtf
Get real! Mixing software dx with hardware acceleration. Good one! very drole!
The only one having a problem is you. I don't give a shit about it. Why do you feel the need to convince me of your expertise on the subject? I accept that you've done some reading I saw the specs on those 8.1 cards too.
I don''t have a gfx so I don't know why you are going on about it?
I don't need info on this, it's not an issue for me.

Hope the original poster is getting something out of this cause I'm not.

Party time everyone's looking for me gotta go