OK to archive DVDs in Cake Boxes?

[davideck]

I burn two copies of every DVD that I author so that I can archive one in case I damage the other. I would like to store these archive copies long term in the Cake Box that they came in, and would welcome any comments as to whether or not this is a good practice...

[yoda313]

Hello,

Cake box?????? Do you mean the jewel case that holds one disc????

If so it should be safe. Just make sure it's in a controlled environment away from moisture and extreme temperatures.

Kevin

[daamon]

Hi davideck,

Well, I've never read anything one way or the other. But my take on it is: "They're OK stored like that and aren't (usually) damaged when you come to use them, so I'll guess they'll be OK once they've been written to".

All I'd say is make sure that there's no dust on the lower or upper surfaces before storing, don't put them away in a humid atmosphere, don't leave the cakebox lid off unless being used etc. All the obvious stuff that's easily overlooked.

[That Bastid]

Yoda, cakeboxes are the cylinders that larger quantities (10-100) come bulk-packaged in.

[yoda313]

Yoda, cakeboxes are the cylinders that larger quantities (10-100) come bulk-packaged in.

Hello,

Ok thanks. I didn't know

Kevin

[Josef K]

Cakeboxes are rather like spindles, so it's just like plonking one disc on top of the other until you reach the desired height.

I see no ill effects from this other than to recommend storing them so the discs are vertical. If you store, say, 100 discs in a cakebox/spindle on top of each other then, after some time, the weight of the top will cause some effect on the bottom. So having all discs equally weighted will reduce physical stress and, hopefully, prolong longevity.

I remember there was a thread about this concerning CDs but the same principle should probably apply to DVDs as well.

[Josef K]

I found the thread I was thinking of:

For maximum longevity, discs should be stored vertically and only be handled by the edges.

[archaeo]

From my experience the cake boxes can scratch the discs if they're moved much at all. I've seen some scratches on some brand new discs stored on such a spindle. The problem is there's direct contact from disc to disc, whereas the best storage will keep the surfaces free from any direct contact.

[FulciLives]

From my experience the cake boxes can scratch the discs if they're moved much at all. I've seen some scratches on some brand new discs stored on such a spindle. The problem is there's direct contact from disc to disc, whereas the best storage will keep the surfaces free from any direct contact.

Put a layer of icing in between each disc.

Sure you hold less per spindle that way but they will not scratch eather other plus it is damn fun licking them off when you need access to one ... especially should it be the bottom disc!

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[lordsmurf]

Discs that have hub stacking rings do not touch EXCEPT at the hub. Discs without hub rings touch each other (bad!!). Called "stacking" rings for a reason!!

You can store discs on spindles just fine. Just be sure not to go bowling with them or anything. Spinning the discs on the hub is bad.

[kenmo]

Whithout proper cataloging discs it would be rather hard to find what disc is where in a spindle.

[Capmaster]

Spindles (cakeboxes) are just fine for storage ...provided the spindle is stored vertically (with the discs stored horizontally). The DVD form factor used on reputable media includes a greater thickness at the center, so when the discs are stacked, they don't touch each other. The weight of the DVDs keeps each separated. If you don't believe me, slide a post-it note between the discs as they are stacked. If they contact each other, you couldn't do that.

If you turn the spindle on its side, the weight is no longer keeping the discs separated, and they will touch each other at the outside edges. This could be the cause of shipping damage on some spindles with wimpy compressive pads. The pads are there to keep the pressure on the entire full spindle, so theoretically the position isn't an issue. But if the spindle isn't full, the pads do no good since they don't compress the stack, so you want to store the spindle upright.

DVDs don't warp when stored at room temperature. DVDs aren't subject to dimensional changes over time like organic materials are. They're stable and won't change unless you get them very hot (keep them off of your car dashboard ).

So, the best way to store on spindles is stacked, with the spindle standing normally. Just remember to keep it out of sunlight, and keep it cool

[BJ_M]

note - some disks do not have the hub stacking ring in the center -- (some printables ussually)

though i store these also in cake boxes anyway ..

[tsantsa]

What about the little styrofome (sp?) rings that come at the top of some cakes of blanks? (Prodisc usually come with one or two at the top. The Verbatims I have contain about 4 little plastic ones at the top.)

If you're that paranoid about it, just save these up and put them in between each disc. You'll lose much desired storage capability, but you KNOW those discs won't touch. As long as you don't bang the cake around that is!

[Goober57]

I store my DVDs in jewel boxes vertically.

I was searching the internet for an article
about the proper storage of DVDs. I couldn't find it
but I did find this humorous post..... :P

http://www.electronicchat.org/WARNING_-_HANDLE_DVDs_WITH_CAUTION-7977462-4298-a.html

I apologize to davideck for straying off his topic.


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[BJ_M]

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[rgs_uk]

I don't like jewel cases due to the wear and tear on the centre of the disc. Also there is much more likelihood of them being dropped, falling off a shelf etc. In fact I hate jewel cases

I store my discs in the cake boxes they come in and number each DVD.

[FulciLives]

Unless storage is a major huge ass deal for someone I can't imagine anyone actually wanting to store CD or DVD discs on a cake spindle.

Unless they are waiting to be burned and were bought that way

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Capmaster]

Unless storage is a major huge ass deal for someone I can't imagine anyone actually wanting to store CD or DVD discs on a cake spindle.

Unless they are waiting to be burned and were bought that way

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

I don't normally store mine that way, but his first post said that's what he wants to do. I would think that all the handling to get to ...say ...disc #38 in the stack would cancel out any advantage.

But as a means of safely storing duplicates, in a small space, as an emergency copy, it's pretty good.

My preferred storage for the ones I access frequently: 5.2mm slim CD cases. Skinny, yet the disc doesn't touch the case like with the ultra-skinny cases

[handyguy]

Sure its safe, why else would manf's sell us disks in cake boxes? Thats how they stored them before putting them up for sale. You can buy them at meritline.com for say 50 cents for a 50 one & a dollar for a 100 one.