blank DVDs pirates use to make Bootleg DVD

[d_unbeliever]

ive seen those pirated DVDs. im just curious what brand of blank DVD do they use...they seems to be generic...but ive seen some of these pirated DVD movies, bought by a friend of mine and they are of good quality (no skipping and all)....how come they were able to produce such good copies using generic or no name blank DVDs...what do they use to burn? maybe those big duplicating machine thing....it is very tempting to buy since they are so cheap.... i want cheaper DVDs though so im not buying them

[lordsmurf]

A lot of them press. But the pressers suck. I have some Hong Kong discs, anime not available outside Asia (not Japanese copies, either), and they're crap press jobs. In the USA, I would not really know, I can only guess duplicator burns on bulk Ritek or some of that other cheap crap (TYG02 fakes, maybe) or a press.

Your friend got lucky. At any rate, don't support those people that sell theatrical movies. Is it so bad to wait 3-6 months for it to be officially released?

And this thread better stay clean. I'm watching.

[samijubal]

I have 1 pirated DVD, I didn't know that when I bought it. It looks like the real thing, but it's not. First and last DVD I ever bought on e-bay. I don't know what they used to make it, but the audio is so far off from the video it's usless. I'm alot more careful where I buy my DVDs now.

[d_unbeliever]

they are not theatrical movies...they are copied from original DVDs...so clear, very good quality. They are pressing them? is not pressing machine coz million of dollars? must be a BIG syndicate...

[hech54]

I bought a factory pressed bootleg in a well respected Electronics store in Germany called Media Markt....and the DVD is still available there. It is a live Santana concert DVD.
And samijubal....you didn't buy your bootleg from Ebay....you bought it from a person who happens to sell on Ebay.

[lordsmurf]

Presses only cost several thousands dollars, at least the cheap, crappy ones. I had the figure $9k tossed at me once, met some guy at Fry's that thought he could buy pressing equipment there.... kind of kook too.

That could be a totally bogus price, however. I've never cared to really price out something I'd never buy anyway.

[bugster]

You don't need to own DVD pressing equipment in order to have your own, or pirate DVD's pressed. You just need to find a company that owns/operates such equipment that is happy to press discs for anyone and not bother checking they have the rights to do so or what the contents of the disk is at all!

I would not be surpised to find plenty of press operators the world over that will turn a blind eye to this kind of thing if they are making a tidy profit (paid in cash up front, no paperwork = no tax to pay etc...)

[freestyler]

They press these discs illegally at facilities who could care less about copyright law. The black market is big business, especially in countries outside of North America.

With the exception of a few, "Hollywood" studios or their affiliates don't own these replication facilities. There are many in the states, but also many overseas and in the Far East (China). The majority of these discs come from China.

These companies manufacture discs and related items for other companies and basically anyone that wants the service and has the cash. There is strict accountability with regards to replication in the US and Europe, you must provide proof that you are the copyright holder and sign documents. If what you've replicated is copyrighted material, the replication plant can face lawsuits in the excess of millions.

That accountability doesn't exist overseas, so these places press whatever they want for whomever.

@Lordsmurf
I think you mean autoloaders/disc publishers (i.e. Rimage) - not presses.

From a similar thread that came up a while back... https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=876987#876987

[Nilfennasion]

Actually, I should point out that similar strict regulation exists in Australia, which is often believed to have some of the best pressing plants in the world. As far as I am aware, the only places where pressing plants with such low standards exist are third-world countries with not much in the way legitimate interests. South America, South-East Asia, and Russia being the main areas.

I just found another one of those "piracy funds terrorists" ads on a disc I rented today. There's something kind of charming and scary at the same time about having it presented in a thick Cockney accent. 8)

[samijubal]

I bought a factory pressed bootleg in a well respected Electronics store in Germany called Media Markt....and the DVD is still available there. It is a live Santana concert DVD.
And samijubal....you didn't buy your bootleg from Ebay....you bought it from a person who happens to sell on Ebay.

I didn't say from e-bay, I said on e-bay. The largest site in the world for pirated discs.

[RottenFoxBreath]

here in scotland theres an outdoor market called "the barras" in glasgow.
man you can buy anything there,games movies,music,etc,and there not pressed,there burnt using all sorts of methods,from pcs and burners in vans to duplicators in peoples houses not far away..hehe.cigs,clothes,anything.
the police raid it all the time,but its that busy that there powerless to stop it.
when one goes down,5 more pop up.its a rough place too.

[BJ_M]

http://www.steag-hamatech.de/pdf/product_brochures/2004-04-DVD%202200IV%20Product%20Brochure.pdf

30,000 DVD9's a day production .. this is a real nice small footprint machine
400,000E



netstal disk jet (older machine) , 1000 disks a hour ...
used not very expensive .. new 425,000E

[FulciLives]

I'm just posting here so I can add another CLOSED THREAD post to my count of 272 so far.

I can't imagine this thread will last much longer

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[BJ_M]

Sumitomo duplicators are only about 200,000E i think also ..

[BJ_M]

i heard that 75% of all big duplicators are sold in russia, china and other asia countries other than japan ..

[hech54]

I bought a factory pressed bootleg in a well respected Electronics store in Germany called Media Markt....and the DVD is still available there. It is a live Santana concert DVD.
And samijubal....you didn't buy your bootleg from Ebay....you bought it from a person who happens to sell on Ebay.

I didn't say from e-bay, I said on e-bay. The largest site in the world for pirated discs.

Bullshit.
I wouldn't know where to look on Ebay to find a pirated Hollywood movie on Ebay. Unless you are in Russia or Taiwan.....there is NO MONEY in selling a DVD that is already available as a factory pressed Hollywood DVD.

First and last DVD I ever bought on e-bay.

[Captain Satellite]

I bought a factory pressed bootleg in a well respected Electronics store in Germany called Media Markt....and the DVD is still available there. It is a live Santana concert DVD.
And samijubal....you didn't buy your bootleg from Ebay....you bought it from a person who happens to sell on Ebay.

I didn't say from e-bay, I said on e-bay. The largest site in the world for pirated discs.

Really?

[canadateck]

People now know ..What to use,Where to buy,and Where to sell....
Very educational for the wannabe Pirate..

[d_unbeliever]

netstal disk jet (older machine) , 1000 disks a hour ...
used not very expensive .. new 425,000E <<< i should buy one of this so i will no longer have a problem in backing up my DVD collections...so no more lags for me

[d_unbeliever]

how can you differentiate if a pirated DVD is pressed or burn?

[FulciLives]

how can you differentiate if a pirated DVD is pressed or burn?

Most say DTS even if the original USA release is only 5.1 DD
Most have Chinese and Thai and Korean subtitles etc.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[jimmalenko]

Is the point of this thread just FYI, d_unbeliever, or is there a motive behind it ?

[Nilfennasion]

Indeed, most pirate labels on discs make it clear the maker cares more about selling their product as quickly and quietly as possible than informing the customer as to the content. For instance, it is not unusual to see the DVD logo on a VCD, with the words "Video CD" in very small print underneath. Not to mention how every VCD with widescreen video has been vertically stretched, as the pirates seem blissfully unaware that people woke up to the difference between aspect ratios a little while ago.

VCD never took off outside of South East Asia because it is of less than VHS quality. I don't even know why the MPAA are concerned about pirate VCD. Suggesting that obtaining one would prevent a sale of the DVD is like saying that a billionaire obtaining a messy crayon concoction would prevent them from buying a Picasso. :P If pirates are applying the same philosophy to making bootleg DVDs as they are to bootleg VCDs, then the MPAA's constant campaigns can be flatly labelled "much ado about nothing".

[d_unbeliever]

jimmalenko, yup there is a motive here

my motive is i was hoping i could duplicate the process, method, and materials that these pirates use in backing up my DVDs...but with the cost of machine that they used i think not...
but mostly out of curiousity, how does they do it? im very amazed by the method and equipment they used...

[d_unbeliever]

also pirates are using those cheap DVD blanks and they can produced clear DVDs with out any skipping in the movies...

i read here again and again that using cheap DVD blanks almost always results in bad copy,skipping and stopping and all...

[Capmaster]

jimmalenko, yup there is a motive here

my motive is i was hoping i could duplicate the process, method, and materials that these pirates use in backing up my DVDs...but with the cost of machine that they used i think not...
but mostly out of curiousity, how does they do it? im very amazed by the method and equipment they used...

So your plan was to get a DVD press to backup your DVD collection?

[d_unbeliever]

if you could donate 400,000E to me, why not

[lordsmurf]

I'm just posting here so I can add another CLOSED THREAD post to my count of 272 so far.

I can't imagine this thread will last much longer

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Nilfennasion]

I took a tally of how many DVDs I would have to illegally copy before one of those pressing machines became cost-effective for me. Does anyone in this world have a collection totalling more than 10,000?

[Fandim]

how can you differentiate if a pirated DVD is pressed or burn?

Look at the bottom. If it's an actual DVD (not VCD as those can be any color), a burned disc will be some shade of purple, whereas a pressed disc will normally have a silver underside.

Seth