BATCH AUTHORING

[Dilemma]

I have a lot of movies that need encoding to dvd format. They are either vcd/svcd (in .bin/.cue format w/ daemon tool immulation - spelling?), or avi (divx/xvid). I was looking for a tool that was all in one and found DvdSanta. It seemed to yield the best quality amongst all the programs that I tried. I did notice something though. Programs like TmpGenc -authoring advertised that it would make a "DVD compliant mpg". Other programs like DvdSanta made .vob files. I really prefer to have .vob files since that's what you get in the stores. Am I right in feeling this way? What is the difference between .vob files and dvd compliant mpegs? Will the amount of dvd players that play .vob files (duh - all of them) equal the amount af dvd players that play dvd compliant mpegs? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!![/b]

[lordsmurf]

Nice try. BOLD doesn't work in titles.

Am I right in feeling this way?

No. You're confused. Let me clear it up...

VOB is a DVD-Video formatted file made from compliant MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 video, and compliant AC3, DTS, PCM, MP2 audio. VOBs can also have subtitles and other information in them. They are more than just MPEG, but MPEG is in there.

Encoders only make MPEG files.

DVD Santa is some all-in-one tool that does it all. And not all that hot either, though it works. It's not just an encoder.

[Dilemma]

Yeh, I understand all of that (Maybe I didn't word it properly)but, that still doesn't answer my question........... Is a DVD that has a standard compliant mpeg-2 the same as having one authored to have .vob files? In other words.....Can I convert with mybatchencoder and burn w/ nero and it will play in all dvd players or do i need to author first?

[only_emo_kid]

u take an mpeg2 and burn it with nero as a dvd disc, put it back in ur dvd reader and it'll show .vob's on the disk

[jimmalenko]

Yeh, I understand all of that (Maybe I didn't word it properly)but, that still doesn't answer my question........... Is a DVD that has a standard compliant mpeg-2 the same as having one authored to have .vob files? In other words.....Can I convert with mybatchencoder and burn w/ nero and it will play in all dvd players or do i need to author first?

Dude, it's time for your dose

VOB is authored MPEG-2. Some DVD players can play raw MPEG-2, most require VOBs. Check your DVD palyer at https://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers to see if it plays MPEGISO or DVD-MPEGISO. If not, you must author, simple as that. I suspect that mybatchencoder authorsw for you, so in that sense, then you're burning IFOs, BUPs and VOBs with Nero, so yes, it is the same.

Can someone please yellow card this guy for a pointless thread title, too ?

[jimmalenko]

u take an mpeg2 and burn it with nero as a dvd disc, put it back in ur dvd reader and it'll show .vob's on the disk

Yes, yes it will ..... by using it's inbuilt tool NeroVision Express to author it

That's the "problem" with using Nero - you lose sight of exactly what it is doing. I was the same with VCDs - at the time I didn't realise that Nero was authoring and burning for me in one (it wasn't re-encoding, I made sure of that ) and it meant that when I made the switch to DVDs, all of a sudden this concept of authoring was foreign because I didn't realise that Nero had been doing it for me all along with VCDs.

[pijetro]

Hey jimmalenko......

STFU

I LOVE IT!!!!
Something noo learned everidaey....

[jimmalenko]

Hey jimmalenko......

STFU

I LOVE IT!!!!
Something noo learned everidaey....

quite a handy thread to keep bookmarked, that one

[lordsmurf]

1. Question...
2. Answer...
3. (ignores answer) .. Question... again..

so ... maybe "NO-ONE" can answer it?

I give up.

[Afterburner]

GOOD

[jimmalenko]

1. Question...
2. Answer...
3. (ignores answer) .. Question... again..

so ... maybe "NO-ONE" can answer it?

I give up.

Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps

[bugster]

Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps

Where have I heard that before

[jimmalenko]

Where have I heard that before

I'll bet one of two places:

(1) The first place I would bet that you might have heard this is in the signature of a forum regular (no surprise there)

(2) The second place I would bet that you might have heard this is the webpage where said forum regular in (1) stole it from in the first place

[Gurm]

Let me break this down in simple language for the original poster.

See, you start with magic juju flowers. You use the special magic juju flower ritual to change those magic juju flowers into magic juju juice.

But you can't DRINK the magic juju juice directly from the bowl. You need to put it into special magic juju cups.

If you don't put it into the magic juju cups, you can't drink it.

Are you following me here?

[jimmalenko]

Let me break this down in simple language for the original poster.

See, you start with magic juju flowers. You use the special magic juju flower ritual to change those magic juju flowers into magic juju juice.

But you can't DRINK the magic juju juice directly from the bowl. You need to put it into special magic juju cups.

If you don't put it into the magic juju cups, you can't drink it.

Are you following me here?

I'm not

[skebenin]

What is the difference between .vob files and dvd compliant mpegs? Will the amount of dvd players that play .vob files (duh - all of them) equal the amount af dvd players that play dvd compliant mpegs?[/b]

Lordsmurf already said this, but used different terms.

VOB is a container for MPG and all the other assets required for playback (multiple audio, subtitles, menus, etc). The IFO file contains information that tells the player what is in the VOBs.

Some players can play raw MPG files, but relatively few. Even on the ones that do you won't see menus, subtitles, or multiple audio streams. A raw MPG is definately not the same as a VOB.

If you want to make a DVD that will play on any player, you need to use authoring software to put the VOB container and associated IFO files around the MPG.

Is a DVD that has a standard compliant mpeg-2 the same as having one authored to have .vob files? In other words.....Can I convert with mybatchencoder and burn w/ nero and it will play in all dvd players or do i need to author first?

A disk with standard compliant mpeg-2 on it is not a DVD. To have a DVD that will play on any player (any player that can read the media, that is) you need to author it. It sounds like DVDSanta does a simplified version of authoring - I've never used it myself - but it also sounds like there may be other choices that give you more control and arguably give better results.

[burnman99]

Yeh, I understand all of that (Maybe I didn't word it properly)but, that still doesn't answer my question........... Is a DVD that has a standard compliant mpeg-2 the same as having one authored to have .vob files? In other words.....Can I convert with mybatchencoder and burn w/ nero and it will play in all dvd players or do i need to author first?

Dilemma, to get a file to play in dvd players the file WILL have to be authored. However, I think Nero 6 will author & encode all in one. So Yes, I think you can use your batch encoder to convert them all to mpeg-2 and then burn them with nero.

Hope this helps.

Happy Holidays!

Rog

[Dilemma]

Thanks a lot guys. You answered my question. I really appreciate it. However, I noticed with DvdSanta after encoding I get blocks in dark places of the movie. This is uneceptable. I now use Tmpgenc to encode to dvd-compliant mpeg. Now I have a second question. I need a program that will batch author several groups of files (each group contains two dvd-compliant mpegs) with really good video quality. I don't need menus. In fact, I tried GUI for dvdauthor and I couldn't figure out how to not use menus. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.


-Oh by the way. This is a key................

1.) Quality is a must.
2.) It must be able to do two files into one dvd.......not all files into one dvd.
3.) I must be able to batch author.
4.) And, I dont care how long it takes.
5.) And all files must be dvd-compliant.

Thanks gentlemen.

[lordsmurf]

Do one at a time.

And DO NOT cross-post:
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=248994

One is enough.