Is it better to rip with a DVD-ROM than a DVD burner?

[cmusngi29]

I'm sure you guys are all tired of being asked this question and I apologize, but I would just like some final input before I shell out the cash for one. I recently traded in my Pioneer 8X burner for a new 16X burner(service plan) and granted I do notice a decrease in burn time, but I'm not noticing too much of a difference in ripping. The ripping time has decraesed a little but I've seen all throughout this board that stand alone DVD-ROM drives rip particularly faster than DVD-ROM/burner combo drives.

I was looking in to purchasing a lite-on DVD-ROM drive from circuit city, but again, I would just like a final word from all of you on here. Could you guys list advantages of picking up a separate DVD-ROM drive for ripping? Thanks. This site is awesome and I appreciate everyone's help.

[Sturge33]

I have an NEC-3500A and a Lite-On DVD-ROM drive, I can't remember the model number. The Lite-On rips MUCH faster than the NEC. There is hacked firmware available for the NEC to unlock the rip speed, but I chose to pick up the Lite-On instead of using hacked firmware. DVD-ROM drives can be found rather cheap, try Froogle or one of the price comparison sites. Other than that, I guess the only advantage is that I can rip from one drive and burn to another at the same time. The Lite-On is faster at ripping DVD's as well as CD's. It takes me about 15 - 20 minutes to rip a full DVD.

[bazooka]

Most will tell you to use a dvd-rom drive to prevent wear and tear on your burner.

However, I have always used my burner to rip and never had any ill effects.

[Olympiad]

from my experience I would just buy 2 DVD burners because you can get them for $70 a piece and that is for 16x DL burners. which is exactly what I did. You would pay about that for that liteon you are talking about from circuit city. I was always a fan of Lite-ON ROMS until I noticed they can be very picky with certain burned media and on the fly copies can be a problem. I then bought a new one thinking my old liteon was bad and I ended up having the same problem. interestingly i bought the drives from circuit city. I returned the liteon and went with a Pioneer burner which rips very fast and has no problems with any media ive ripped with it, even the ones the liteon had issues with. I also have an NEC burner which burns fine so I use both of them. At the cheap prices of burners now this is what i'd reccomend for you.

[Jah_Rankin]

Ripping from your burner will damage it in the long run, it will create pixelation in the burns. I use to think it was a problem with Recode and Shrink latest version due to the pixelations till I replaced my drive, no more pixelations in my burns with either of these proggys.

[Capmaster]

Ripping from your burner will damage it in the long run, it will create pixelation in the burns. I use to think it was a problem with Recode and Shrink latest version due to the pixelations till I replaced my drive, no more pixelations in my burns with either of these proggys.

I don't buy that. Do you have any links explaining the process?

[jimmalenko]

There's pros and cons both ways, but my preference is to have a separate ROM. Most burners have a locked rip speed of 2X, which can be unlocked by way of a hacked firmware. I have found that even with a hacked firmware on my Pioneer 107D, that my firmware-flashed LiteOn *still* takes it to town in terms of ripping speed. My LiteOn 166S & 167T have been known to hit between 15X and 15.5X at times while ripping DVDRs, FWIW. Wear and tear is another concern that I rate. If you're doing any sort of volume, it makes financial sense to "overwork" a ROM because it's cheaper to replace than a burner.

I'd get a separate ROM

[Capmaster]

There's pros and cons both ways, but my preference is to have a separate ROM. Most burners have a locked rip speed of 2X, which can be unlocked by way of a hacked firmware. I have found that even with a hacked firmware on my Pioneer 107D, that my firmware-flashed LiteOn *still* takes it to town in terms of ripping speed. My LiteOn 166S & 167T have been known to hit between 15X and 15.5X at times while ripping DVDRs, FWIW. Wear and tear is another concern that I rate. If you're doing any sort of volume, it makes financial sense to "overwork" a ROM because it's cheaper to replace than a burner.

I'd get a separate ROM

All well and good to do it for speed and to prevent wear and tear, but Jah_Rankin made it sound like ripping DVDs from your DVD Writer would somehow damage it (above and beyond normal wear and tear) and to that I can only say ...

[Olympiad]

I agree with capmaster, jah_rankin is way off with that statement. I've ripped countless dvds with my burners and they run like they were brand new. No errors in my tests, no errors with playback. I've read people on this forum say they have burned thousands of dvds with their burner and it runs like new. Being that it takes more power to burn then rip, even after thousands of rips you'll have nothing to be concerned about.

[jimmalenko]

All well and good to do it for speed and to prevent wear and tear, but Jah_Rankin made it sound like ripping DVDs from your DVD Writer would somehow damage it (above and beyond normal wear and tear) and to that I can only say ...

I was going to say ....

He sure seems to have a lot of issues ....

[Sifaga]

I have a dvdrom but i rip using my burner cause i want to wear it out so i can get a new DL Burner, but the thing is still going strong

[jimmalenko]

I have a dvdrom but i rip using my burner cause i want to wear it out so i can get a new DL Burner, but the thing is still going strong

Need to justify the purchase to the missus, eh ?

[Sifaga]

I paid $540 for it so Im gonna get my moneys worth

[budz]

I have a dvdrom but i rip using my burner cause i want to wear it out so i can get a new DL Burner, but the thing is still going strong. I paid $540 for it so Im gonna get my moneys worth smile.gif

whoas $540.00 with that kind of money one could buy a shit load of dvd burners.

[Sifaga]

and that was only 18 months ago

i still cant believe how quick the price of burners dropped

[Gurm]

What did you buy 18 months ago that was $500+?

[Sifaga]

The Sony DRU510A

$540AUD

[macleod]

another "advantage" to having another drive (be it a burner or a rom for ripping) is that for backing up a DVD, you can put the dvd in the rom and a blank in the burner, click "go" come back in awhile and the finished product is there (basically, no need to switch discs).

[jimmalenko]

and that was only 18 months ago

i still cant believe how quick the price of burners dropped

I hear ya

Here in Oz, about two years ago the Sony 510 and the Pioneer 104 were both $700-$800, that was after they fell from in excess of $1K in the months before that. 18 months ago they dropped to the $500 -$550 mark (as Sifaga says) then they gradually worked their way down to about $250, and stayed there for quite a while. Then they gradually dropped down to $180 about 6 months ago, and then in the last 3 months I've seen Pioneer 108's as cheap as $120.

You, our US counterparts, have no idea how much extra we pay for parts over here

[judgmentday]

I just paid $65.00 for a Pioneer 108. Excellent burner!

[daamon]

I went for a separate burner and ROM drive (see my PC specs for details) for these reasons:

1. If the ROM drive packs up it's cheaper to replace.
2. If I want to do backups from DVD (data or video) to DVD then I can.
3. Ripping from a ROM drive is generally quicker.
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[jimmalenko]

I went for a separate burner and ROM drive (see my PC specs for details) for these reasons:

1. If the ROM drive packs up it's cheaper to replace.
2. If I want to do backups from DVD (data or video) to DVD then I can.
3. Ripping from a ROM drive is generally quicker.

Couldn't agree more.

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