Chapter question for those in the know....

[wildcatfan]

Does the VCD toolkit make TRUE Chapters so that if I start in chapter 3 and watch till chapter 7 and then hit back it will go to chapter 6 instead of 2 like most authoring proggies?

Michael

[wildcatfan]

*bump*

[vitualis]

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On 2001-11-30 23:26:06, wildcatfan wrote:
Does the VCD toolkit make TRUE Chapters so that if I start in chapter 3 and watch till chapter 7 and then hit back it will go to chapter 6 instead of 2 like most authoring proggies?

Michael
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Actually, NO VCD authoring proggy does this. This is a limitation in VCD. If you use the entrypoints method of "chaptering" with <selection> or <playlist> for each chapter. I discuss the theory and practice of doing so with VCDImager here: http://www.geocities.com/medinotes/vcd/chapters.html

Actually, I believe both the VCD and SVCD specs allow for "true" chapters (as you described above). All that is required is entrypoints defined and using the track as one <playlist>. Unfortunately, this is not honoured by most stand-alone players so if you make a VCD in this fashion, more likely than not it will not play as intended on your machine.

The method I described above is probably the best compromise. It will work in essentially all stand-alone players but it does have the <prev> <next> problem.

Regards.

[lusid]

Something must do it, because I own a VCD that has this feature.

It's something I've never been able to duplicate.

[wildcatfan]

I thought I read something on here before about the toolkit being able to do an "auto-next" feature or something that basically told it to forward the chapters automatically but have been unable to find anything that again....

[lusid]

Until now........

OK, so I dug out that VCD and ripped it to look at the XML, and from that was able to use TSCV to make a VCD with chapters that work the way you would expect them to, but there is a price.

As it turns out, that VCD was 1.1. So to do this you are giving up Menus.

Here is what I did:

I setup TSCV to create a VCD1.1, then used the Menu tab to add my mpeg file, and the chapters tab to set my chapter points.

Then I went to the XML tab and deleted the entire PBC section.

Then I saved the XML, and used to VCDxBuild tool on the tools tab to create my Bin & Cue files.

The resulting disc had chapter points that work the way we all want them to.

If the author of TSCV reads this, can you NOT create the PBC section in VCD 1.1 mode?

[lusid]

In case anyone finds this useful, here is the XML ripped from that original disc.

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE videocd PUBLIC "-//GNU//DTD VideoCD//EN" "http://www.gnu.org/software/vcdimager/videocd.dtd">

<videocd xmlns="http://www.gnu.org/software/vcdimager/1.0/" class="vcd" version="1.1">
<info>
<album-id>NAKED_REUNION</album-id>
<volume-count>1</volume-count>
<volume-number>1</volume-number>
<restriction>0</restriction>
</info>
<pvd>
<volume-id>NR_1</volume-id>
<system-id>CD-RTOS CD-BRIDGE</system-id>
<application-id>CDI/CDI_VCD.APP;1</application-id>
<preparer-id>MOTIONLINK</preparer-id>
<publisher-id>VIVID</publisher-id>
</pvd>
<filesystem>
<folder>
<name>KARAOKE</name>
<file src="_karaoke_karinfo.bih">
<name>KARINFO.BIH</name>
</file>
</folder>
<folder>
<name>CDI</name>
<file src="_cdi_avseq01.dat">
<name>AVSEQ01.DAT</name>
</file>
<file src="_cdi_cdi_all.rtf" format="mixed">
<name>CDI_ALL.RTF</name>
</file>
<file src="_cdi_cdi_bum.dat" format="mixed">
<name>CDI_BUM.DAT</name>
</file>
<file src="_cdi_cdi_font.fnt">
<name>CDI_FONT.FNT</name>
</file>
<file src="_cdi_cdi_vcd.app">
<name>CDI_VCD.APP</name>
</file>
<file src="_cdi_cdi_vcd.cfg">
<name>CDI_VCD.CFG</name>
</file>
<file src="_cdi_nmenus.rtf" format="mixed">
<name>NMENUS.RTF</name>
</file>
<file src="_cdi_pmenus.rtf" format="mixed">
<name>PMENUS.RTF</name>
</file>
</folder>
<file src="_abstract.txt">
<name>ABSTRACT.TXT</name>
</file>
<file src="_biblio.txt">
<name>BIBLIO.TXT</name>
</file>
<file src="_copyrigh.txt">
<name>COPYRIGH.TXT</name>
</file>
</filesystem>
<sequence-items>
<sequence-item src="avseq01.mpg" id="sequence-00">
<default-entry id="entry-000"/>
<entry id="entry-001">96.162733</entry>
<entry id="entry-002">419.485733</entry>
<entry id="entry-003">745.811733</entry>
<entry id="entry-004">1455.020233</entry>
<entry id="entry-005">1964.028733</entry>
<entry id="entry-006">2611.175233</entry>
<entry id="entry-007">3146.710233</entry>
<entry id="entry-008">3583.146233</entry>
<entry id="entry-009">4082.645233</entry>
</sequence-item>
</sequence-items>
</videocd>