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  1. Member AlecWest's Avatar
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    The prosecution just got a big break. The judge has allowed evidence of prior sexual conduct to be introduced. This will allow prosecutors to introduce evidence in the 1993 case that captured media attention ... and four other cases that were kept out of the public eye (for the most part).
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  2. That means nothing. If there was anything incriminating then, he would still be in jail.
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    Originally Posted by Kunta Kinte
    That means nothing. If there was anything incriminating then, he would still be in jail.
    Sorry, that's just not so.

    It means his lawyer was able to convince the judge he isn't a flight risk. Staying or not staying in jail until the trial has little to do with ultimate guilt or innocence
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  4. If the crime was committed in 1993, what's he doing on the street? He should have served some time, don't you think? Last time I checked, the prosecution back then saw no evidence to bring him to trial.
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    "Let no man be declared guilty before being found broke"

    from The Wizard of Id
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    Originally Posted by Kunta Kinte
    If the crime was committed in 1993, what's he doing on the street? He should have served some time, don't you think? Last time I checked, the prosecution back then saw no evidence to bring him to trial.
    I thought you meant the current trial. He bought his way out of trouble in the 1993 incident. Remember the payoff?
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  7. I don't remember the State of California accepting a payoff. Remeber the State could care less what a criminal paid a victim, they are interested in whether or not a crime was committed.
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    Originally Posted by Kunta Kinte
    I don't remember the State of California accepting a payoff. Remeber the State could care less what a criminal paid a victim, they are interested in whether or not a crime was committed.
    The state had its hands tied because of the refusal of the complainant to testify. The payoff was made by Jackson to keep them from testifying. After this case the law was changed to prevent it from happening again:

    The case never went to trial; Jackson settled the boy's civil lawsuit with the payment of an undisclosed amount of money. Media speculations range from $2 million to $50 million, depending on the source. As a result of this payment, the boy declined to testify at any criminal trial. Responding to questions, the prosecution said in 2003 that the case was still "open, but inactive".
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson:_1993_allegation_of_child_sexual_abuse

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    I seem to recall that the first time the state lost its star witness and accuser (funny how money can change things)The victom for some reason didn't want to press charges or testify anymore
    The state then changed the law to help protect victoms (the state is responsible for the protection of its citizens)under the new laws the state doesn't need the victom to press charges or testify, so the buy off won't work like it used to. Now to get the buy off money you have to lie in court and convince the jury(something that is harder than it sounds)

    OK lets say that none of this has ever happened,Would you let your child sleep in the same bed with an adult other than a blood relative? Turns out that blood relatives are perverts too sometimes. The parents in both cases should be charged with child endangerment. Either they where too stupid to take care of their kids or they put their kids in harms way to collect money!

    I say fry that pedophile to make the world safer for children and lock up the parents of the victoms to set an example for the rest of the world to see.
    IS IT SUPPOSED TO SMOKE LIKE THAT?
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    in the grand jury testimony (which is on line) , the amount of the pay off was a $2 million settlement with the maid's son. (she sold her story to a television tabloid show, but then later disavowed her TV claims during a sworn deposition). This was the most recent case.



    The old case before the maid case was (the california boy):
    "The January 1994 agreement contains a one-line reference to Jackson delivering "confessions of judgment" totaling $15,331,250 to the boy's attorneys. However, since the entire eight-page section of the agreement titled "Settlement Payment" is not included in the document, it is unclear how the eight-figure payout was distributed to the boy or what his parents were paid. However, a reference to the establishment of a "qualified funding asset" would indicate that an annuity (likely tax free) was a central part of the settlement."


    keep in mind - not everyone is truthful on both sides:
    "many of the third-party witnesses Sneddon would call to testify about the prior abuse were tabloid informants, disgruntled former employees, and money-hungry litigants. He specifically mentioned a group of former Neverland workers who sued Jackson for wrongful termination and were routed in court (in fact, they lost a countersuit brought by Jackson and were hit with a seven-figure legal judgment, which drove some into bankruptcy)."
    "Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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    This logo looks like it was designed by Michael Jackson:

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    Originally Posted by Kunta Kinte
    I don't remember the State of California accepting a payoff. Remeber the State could care less what a criminal paid a victim, they are interested in whether or not a crime was committed.
    In 1993, the State of California could not force a child to testify against an accuser. The law was subsequently changed, partly as a result of the Jackson allegations.
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    "Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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  15. Originally Posted by AlecWest
    Originally Posted by Kunta Kinte
    I don't remember the State of California accepting a payoff. Remeber the State could care less what a criminal paid a victim, they are interested in whether or not a crime was committed.
    In 1993, the State of California could not force a child to testify against an accuser. The law was subsequently changed, partly as a result of the Jackson allegations.
    They'll get him in jail, one way or another, even if he ends up being innocent.
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    I'm really tired of having to hear about the Michael Jackson trial.
    Everymorning it was being talked about on the radio, I switched to a different station.

    Can't people just let him have the trial?
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  17. Originally Posted by BJ_M

    Photochopping is an artform. You got it!!!
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