PAL Episode DVD to NTSC Episode Disc Question

[TBoneit]

What I did for a try was rip the PAL DVD to hard drive, open in TMPGenc DVD Author and create 6 small dvds on the drive. Then I demuxed the Video and audio. Then Convert video with TMPGenc Plus to NTSC format.
Then take the 6 episodes and re-author adding back the AC3 audio.

This worked but I lost the Original menus etc.

Plus it was a pain to do. But it did work.

Second method was play the PAL DVD from my Apex to a standalone recorder as NTSC. Again a pain and at the 2 hour setting for quality only 4 episodes to disc and very plain menu.

Quick and dirty method but it works.

So what I'm looking for is someway to preserve the menus and automate things.

I have 4 more to do and the fifth one that I already did where I'd like to save the menus and such.

It's the only way I've found Steptoe & Son and the On the Buses released.

Cheers & thanks

[johns0]

Theres no known method to convert from pal tp ntsc and keep the menus,too difficult,what i did was buy a dvd player that plays pal region free properly on a ntsc tv.

[wulf109]

DVD Shrink or DVD2ONE will of course compress to one DVD-R,but you would still need a PAL comptible DVD player to play the disk and the menus would be preserved.

[TBoneit]

So looks like I'll be going Apex to DVD recorder as a conversion device. And if I record a motion menu maybe I can reauthor it and use that menu as a background to the menu.

Cheers

[adam]

I've done it before. Keeping menu's after re-encoding the movie is a trivial thing to do, but if you re-encode the menu's then you will have to reauthor which will vary in complexity according to how complex the DVD's features are. The process is simple enough though, you'd just re-encode the menu's the same way you did for the movie. Resize the subpictures and then re-author.

Update: Looks like the latest release of NuMenu4u now supports Pal->NTSC. It requires Cinema Craft Encoder I believe but this should be exactly what you are looking for.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86243

[TBoneit]

Thank You Adam, I'm hoping it works with CCE Basic which I had bought a while ago. Even at 3Ghz I'm always looking for more speed encoding.

Even though I can play the PAL disks in my Apexes, My Big Sony Changer won't play em.

I Love the britcoms and mysteries. I can get a lot from PBS & BBC America and such in NTSC but for those I can't get that way a friend that goes to england several times a year gets PAL DVDs and brings them back. Being that they are episodic disks I prefer them in my changer so I can watch an episode of this and an episode of that without getting up and changing disks every 1/2 hour. Maybe I'm strange but I like the menus and extras.

Cheers

[TBoneit]

Just looked at it and it seems to want scenarist and CCE standard.

So it looks like I'll be going the capture and re-author route.

Thanks

[FulciLives]

I've done it before. Keeping menu's after re-encoding the movie is a trivial thing to do, but if you re-encode the menu's then you will have to reauthor which will vary in complexity according to how complex the DVD's features are. The process is simple enough though, you'd just re-encode the menu's the same way you did for the movie. Resize the subpictures and then re-author.

Update: Looks like the latest release of NuMenu4u now supports Pal->NTSC. It requires Cinema Craft Encoder I believe but this should be exactly what you are looking for.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86243

I will have to look into this ... could be the "holy grail" for those that do PAL to NTSC and want to keep the original menu.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Zeul]

Just to let you know that I have now released an updated version available at the wesite:

http://www.numenu4u.com

[TBoneit]

A folow-up

a. If anybody gets the above solution working with inexpensive or freeware utilities, please say so. I tried to use it and it was looking for CCE Standard & I had previously bought CCE Basic. It also seemed to be looking for Scenarist.

b. SO far I have been having good results trying out TMPGenc Xpress 3 for quality and ease. I just picked the DVD and selected all the titles, chose NTSC 720 by 480, and target size of single sided DVD blank. It converts to either one big Video or leaves them as individual episode MPEGs, Selectable. The defaults are very slow (Overnight or longer) but deliver good results. Now to keep the original menu, next thing to work on. In fact I was impressed enough to plunk down my money, users discount made not to bad (My Christmas gift to me) and as I had already licensed the AC3 encoder for their DVD Author it works with Xpress too.

Cheers

[timekiller]

I will have to look into this ... could be the "holy grail" for those that do PAL to NTSC and want to keep the original menu.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

I tried NuMenu4U combined with DoItFast4U, ScenAid, BatchIFOUpdate and IFOEdit. I managed to convert a PAL disc entirely to NTSC including menus. I wanted to share my notes with everyone in hopes that initially it helps people out, but also in the long run that the tools evolve to manage this process front to back. There was no judgement involved in my process; it could theoretically be entirely automated.

Let me start by saying that I'm aware there are two schools of thought with respect to how PAL should correctly be converted to NTSC. Some believe the audio and video should be stretched to convert the 25FPS to 23.976FPS. I personally do not like that approach, I would rather have a result that exactly matches the play time of the original, even if it means some loss. I have found the ChangeFPS in AVISynth produces a conversion that I am more than happy with. Not to mention, this approach is far simpler IMO, as you can easily encode to 29.97FPS interlace. Let's not start a debate in this thread with respect to this matter - take the pointers here and enhance to your encoding method if you are so inclined.

The overall process is based on the Doom9 "Big 3" guide. The author of this guide was at times a little verbose (but thank you anyway!) - don't be too scared by all the stuff in there, just use his configuration pointers and order of operations.

http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/ra-guide.htm

What I thought was missing from the guide was a blurb on the theory behind the process. After I went through this, it made some sense. What you are really doing here is

- Convert menu video/audio to NTSC
- Convert DVD assets to NTSC
- Reauthor a new DVD containing the transcoded NTSC assets : the new DVD has the same VOB naming, order, and chaptering. This precisely matching structure is key.
- Surgically overlaying the chapter info from the newly authored DVD on top of the old menu IFO's.

Given that, one could possibly pull this off without scenarist (anybody wanna try?)

I highly recommend if you are going to embark on this that you start with a DVD that has very few .IFO's, so you can size up effort. The number of IFO's you are working with will define how much labour is involved.

Changes to the "Big 3" guide to include PAL -> NTSC conversion:

Open NuMenu4U:

Check AVISynth -> Convert Format
Open AVISynth -> Show Format Conversion Script Editor
Select radio button Drop / Add Frames to keep Video/Audio Length the same
Select radio button Converter -> ChangeFPS

Close NuMenu4U - it will be launched by DoItFast4U.

Open DoItFast4U.

Open Global Options -> AVS Script Editor.

Header:
import("C:\Program Files\DoItFast4U\new.avs\addaudio.avs")
LoadPlugin("mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("SmoothDeinterlacer.dll")

Footer:
AddAudio()
SmoothDeinterlace(doublerate=true)
LanczosResize(720,480)
ChangeFPS(59.94) # or ConvertFPS(59.94)
SeparateFields()
SelectEvery(4,1,2)
Weave()
ConvertToRGB()

Remove idct=0 from Mpeg2SourceSwitch.

These AVISynth parameters were taken from this guide:

http://www.geocities.com/xesdeeni2001/StandardsConversion/

I remember having to hunt around for the right version of "mpeg2dec.dll" and "SmoothDeinterlacer.dll". I did this long ago to do PAL->NTSC conversions without menus so I don't remember details. Make sure you test your .AVS files that are created by DoItFast4U before bothering with the encode step. If you've never tried this before - they will look quite choppy displaying real time in your Media Player app, that's because AVISynth is doing the size and FPS conversion on the fly. As long as you see the video and not some error, you're probably good to go.

Back in DoItFast4U main screen, select Global Options -> Reencode Menus using NuMenu4U before Demuxing.

Run DoItFast4U. Open the menu VIDEO_TS directory that NuMenu4U created using your software DVD player to make sure the menu is functioning and that it is NTSC.

Encode the .AVS files that DoItFast4U created as NTSC to the same file name with .MPV extension. I didn't even bother with CCE. It's terrible slow, and I had trouble with Frame Order. I recommend TMPGEnc. Have it create "ES (Video Only)". It will want to default to .M2V extension, force it to .MPV.

Not sure if this is required (would have to trial it some more) : Edit the VTS....Chapter Information - CCE.txt files. Multiply all numbers by (29.97 / 25). Save. A spreadsheet application can help make this easier.

Run ScenAid against the directory that DoItFast4U did its work in. This will create an .SCP file.

Edit the .SCP file changing all references

PAL -> NTSC
720 x 576 -> 720 x 480
Height=576 -> Height=480

Import the .SCP to scenarist and Create DVD video as per "Big 3" guide.

Use BatchIFOUpdate as per the "Big 3" guide.

Now you have a final VIDEO_TS directory with the original menu (Transcoded) overlayed with new chapter info from the authoring step, and new transcoded VOB assets. Final step is to open all the .IFO's (including VIDEO_TS.IFO) in this directory using IFOEdit and double click on any Video references that still say "PAL" and change them to "NTSC". Save IFO's and say yes to updating the BUP files.

Test your new DVD directory. Burn and try on your stand alone player.

Final words: You can do without CCE, even NuMenu4U can apparently use ReJig (I didn't try it). I don't know how to avoid Scenarist, but I have to imagine it's somehow possible to author a new DVD with the same VOB and chapter structure as the original so that BatchIFOUpdate can do its job. Here's where I hope someone will continue to carry the torch...

Good luck with your conversions.

[jhr1948]

timekiller wondering if you could lend your experience?

i'm trying to get the pal to ntsc "big 3" method. all steps are going great until i import my .scp file into scenarist (the one w/the video info).
i did what you said which was change all instances of Pal to Ntsc and 576 to 480. not when you meant change to those you meant in any part of the script correct? for instance there's a dummy file entitled dummy_pal_or somthing like that, after changing the .scp file, i import and finally got it right to where i don't recieve an "import failed" error. so i got that down. problem is when i go to compile the dvd i get this error message in scenarist:

Info Multiplexing VOB Main Stream
Error The number(0.0) of frame in a VOBU is less than 11.99 (around 497:06:13:10).
Warning Exiting is canceled because "ExitVobuSizeError" is 0 in the file Scenarist.ini.
Error Multiplex is terminated at 00:21:29:16 in the middle of scene "VTS_03_V1_C6", but other cells are left. Please check video data file or track <VTS03_001_Track>.
Error dvd_mux : DoMux Multiplexing Error
Error Terminated Multiplexing (NEWest-VTS03_001_Track_t.vob).
Error Some Cells which did not multiplex are left.
Error Multiplex is failed.
Error Multiplexing failed, Track "VTS03_001_Track"

Error MuxFromDB:MuxVTS failed
Error Multiplex failed
Error DVD Video files could not be created

keep in mind i cut only the error out. could you help make that out?
thanks

[Zeul]

if this scp is created by scenaid then a couple of other things to try. first scenarist has different formats for pal & ntsc. pal is written as 00:00:00;00 where as ntsc is 00:00:00:00 (see the difference). All your timecodes need to be converted [open in a text editor and change ; to :]Next all the scenes need to be converted if you are stretching the video (ie the audio needs processing too). If the video length is unchanged then you only need to alter the framepart of the scenes to reflect 30fps and not 25fps. ie scenetime=00:00:30;12 -> 00:00:30:15 Do this and you will be about there i think. I presume this is not a bov title (there are no links within the movie to special features etc). If it is you will need to resize your bmps (in the subs folder) to 720*478 and recalculate the button coordinates (take the ones written by scenaid / 1.2)

Hope that helps. The MOST important thing is the timestamp conversion from ; to :

The above is exactly what i do for numenu4u

[jhr1948]

Zeul
thanks for the quick reply, your app is great. i did check the timecodes and they were wrong. i started to change a few then had to go to work.

i did not strech the video, so i don't have to fiddle w/that.

as far as the "scenetime=00:00:30;12 -> 00:00:30:15" change, you do mean changing 12->15 correct? i don't have the script in front of me so i can't see it now. do you mean that every instance of "scenetime=00:00:30;12 -> 00:00:30:15" i will change, and will "scenetime=00:00:30;12 -> 00:00:30:15" be written differently anywhere.

thanks for the help, this seems to be the only method of completly backing up a PAL dvd w/menus to NTSC.

oh yeah, btw, i notice in numenu4u conversion script uses kernelbob, do you find that filter better than smoothdeinterlace (i.e. xesdeeni's script)? i tried reading around this forum and doom9, but didn't really find any solid answers. it seemed like preferrences more than anything.

thanks for the help and once again for this great app

[Zeul]

the scenetime was an example. Basically any frame count needs to be converted by a factor of 1.2, so .....12 * 1.2 = 15 approx. if the framecount was 19 then ntsc equivalent is 19*1.2 = 23 [always round up]. I did try smoothdeinterlace but found kernal bob gave a clearer output, but you are correct it is personal preference. kernal bob is a newer filter than smoothdeinterlace so should be better.
SO...
make sure that ; doesn't appear anywhere in the script. It is replaced by : and alter the frame portion of all timecodes / end times / durations in the scp. This is only really important if you have subs, as the subs can't 'cross' a scene - scenarist will throw a fit if it does, but it is nice to have your backup as close to the original as possible.

good luck

[jhr1948]

zeul, still plugging away at this. i changed every ; to : but with no luck. i did not change time b/c, well, read on down, you'll see.

here's parts of the error in scenarist (clips to save space):

Info Importing MODIFIER VERSION
Info Importing Data
Info Importing VTS3_Assets
Info Importing VTS03_001
Warning The duration of MPEG video file "C:\Documents and Settings\Jose Rodriguez\My Documents\test\VTS03\VTS__03_P01.I-TFF.4~3_1.nopull.mpv" has changed.
Info Importing VTS03_01_80

i have this up until VTS10

(btw, they are different episodes, so they are video tracks)
further down the list are these errors

Info Validateing Track (VTS03_001_Track)
Info Validateing Track (VTS04_001_Track)
Info Validateing Track (VTS05_001_Track)
Info Validateing Track (VTS06_001_Track)
Info Validateing Track (VTS07_001_Track)
Info Validateing Track (VTS08_001_Track)
Info Validateing Track (VTS09_001_Track)
Info Validateing Track (VTS10_001_Track)
Info Validateing Track (dummy_VTS_Track)
Info Validateing Video (VTS03_001)
Warning The duration of MPEG video file "C:\Documents and Settings\Jose Rodriguez\My Documents\test\VTS03\VTS__03_P01.I-TFF.4~3_1.nopull.mpv" has changed.
Error Track "VTS03_001_Track", Scene "VTS_03_V1_C7"'s timecode 00:21:29:17 is larger than video duration.
Error Importing failed

so i looked at my .scp and noticed the all 8 episodes' end times seemed a bit off. for example VTS3_Assets shows Data End Time=00:25:47:11, but when i put that mpeg in vdub end time=21:30:823 which is about the same time code that scenarist stops and gives the errors

could this be the problem? this was a pal interlaced tp ntsc interlace so frames shouldn't have changed much. what would create such wrong end times. would it be doitfastforu, batchccews, or scenarist?

of course, when i try to compile i get the error i mention a few posts up.

i'm sorry to be a pain, but it feels so close. i'm at the last stages
thanks for all the help so far

[Zeul]

the warnings are because you didn't change the frametime. Don't worry about them. About your error though, that suggests that the video length has been altered. I forgot to say change every instance of Drop Type=Non-drop frame to Drop Type=Drop. This is VERY important. If you are using scenarist version 2.6 or 2.7 then your scenes should be very close, however, if using scenarist 3.0 then your scene times will be off by a factor of 2 frames a minute. This is becasue scenarist 3.0 recalculates some track details (sub starttime/scenetime). It assumes that the timestamp written in the scp is based off non-drop timecodes (this is very complicated - and without hundreds of hours of manual work cannot be corrected).
If after changing the drop type you still get that error, manually drop the video file into scenarist data section, change drop type, and post the end time given. You MAY have other errors like tag error unable to paste......
If this happens check every timestamp to ensure that any timestamps that fall on any exact minutes (but NOT multiples of 10mins) ie 00:01:00:00. 00:02:00:00 ..... (but NOT 00:10:00:00, 00:20:00:00..) is altered by 2 frames like 00:01:00:02, 00:02:00:02.
Hopefully this won't be required.
I have to say the process shown by timekiller is a little simplistic, and a LOT more work is needed to ensure scenarist won't throw a wobbly.

[jhr1948]

zeul do you recommend i use 2.7?
if i'll won't run into this many problems, i'd rather do that.

tried the Change to Drop and no luck same timecode error. here's one a part of the script of one of the episodes.

Item=Audio Stream
{
Item=Audio Play
{
Data=VTS03_01_80
Start Time To Video=00:00:00:00
Resolution=NTSC
Drop Type=Drop
Start Time=00:00:00:00
Duration=00:21:30:04
}
Stream Number=1
Language=English
Synchronization=Yes
}
}
Sub-Picture Streams=List
{
}
Highlight Stream=Highlight Stream
{
}
Angles=List
{
}
Scenes=List
{
Item=Scene
{
Name=VTS_03_V1_C1
Color Palette=VTS_3_Palette0
Angle Type=Seamless
Scene Time=00:00:00:00
Story Scenes=List
{
}
Angle Scenes=List
{
}
}
Item=Scene
{
Name=VTS_03_V1_C2
Color Palette=VTS_3_Palette0
Angle Type=Seamless
Scene Time=00:00:30:24
Story Scenes=List
{
}
Angle Scenes=List
{
}
}
Item=Scene
{
Name=VTS_03_V1_C3
Color Palette=VTS_3_Palette0
Angle Type=Seamless
Scene Time=00:06:19:08
Story Scenes=List
{
}
Angle Scenes=List
{
}
}
Item=Scene
{
Name=VTS_03_V1_C4
Color Palette=VTS_3_Palette0
Angle Type=Seamless
Scene Time=00:10:24:24
Story Scenes=List
{
}
Angle Scenes=List
{
}
}
Item=Scene
{
Name=VTS_03_V1_C5
Color Palette=VTS_3_Palette0
Angle Type=Seamless
Scene Time=00:14:59:13
Story Scenes=List
{
}
Angle Scenes=List
{
}
}
Item=Scene
{
Name=VTS_03_V1_C6
Color Palette=VTS_3_Palette0
Angle Type=Seamless
Scene Time=00:20:48:18
Story Scenes=List
{
}
Angle Scenes=List
{
}
}
Item=Scene
{
Name=VTS_03_V1_C7
Color Palette=VTS_3_Palette0
Angle Type=Seamless
Scene Time=00:21:30:14
Story Scenes=List
{
}
Angle Scenes=List
{
}
}
}
Divx=No
Divx Interval=2
Video Stream=Main Video Stream
{
Item=Main Video Play
{
Data=VTS03_001
Start Time To Video=00:00:00:00
Resolution=NTSC
Drop Type=Drop
Start Time=00:00:00:00
Duration=00:25:47:12
Start Time=00:00:00:00

as you can see the audio is the correct time and video is off. if you recommend i use 2.7 to stop this problem then let me know.

btw, i checked the timestamps and they did go up 2 frames. i just don't see where the end times and chapter point moved up by to much about 4 minutes. as far as "If after changing the drop type you still get that error, manually drop the video file into scenarist data section, change drop type, and post the end time given" it still posts the incorrect end time.
thanks for your time and patience

[Zeul]

if you drop the original m2v video file & then the new mpv (set to drop type) what are the 2 durations posted?
If they are different by more than a few frames then i think your avs script was incorrect and you have actually shortened the video. Are you sure you're source is interlaced and not progressive? The only sure fire way to tell is to open the avs in virtualdub and look for combing. The script you are using which is for interlaced ONLY should result in the same video length.
Hmmm i wonder... Did you create your scenaid scp before or after the avisynth scripts were changed. The scenaid scp must be based off the 'normal' scripts. This produces a compliant scp file in PAL format, then you can alter you're avs scripts and alter the scp file.
How did you encode you're m2v file? Did you let scenaid fire up batchcce/batchm2v.
ooh i just had a thought, i have heard that cce 2.7+ must have the drop setting set to off (ie unchecked) or it reduces the video length. What cce version are you using. I would recommend use batchencodem2v instead of batchccews - it supports more encoders (cce,procoder,and some free ones too).

I'm thinking i might write a little batch utility that automates this lot.

[NamPla]

Can't you use the "patch" method for the menus and an Avisynth script for the movie? Or can't you just open it up in IfoEdit & change some parameters? Isn't Scenarist total yuppie software or something, thousands of dollars?

Ha ha, yeah I got Scenarist & CCE SP version (or is it Pro?)... Why are these software so expensive? What have they got over Gui4DVDAuthor or DVDAuthorGui and QuEnc or something like that? What's the difference?

[jhr1948]

zeul i think you might have nailed it.

originally i went by timekkiller's instructions and changed my avs script (for pal to ntsc) in doitfast4u. so in other words before the entire process. so that's probably also why i was having trouble w/the newer builds of scenaid. the original final build of scenaid was the only that did not give me errors about my script. and i knew my script was right, it played in media classic perfectly. so, does numenu4u get a .scp script first then alter the avs after?

btw, i know most pal is progressive, but i checked it before and there was definately the combing effect.

Just so you'll know, even before i read your recent reply (darn time difference) i got scenarist to work (the hard way). i opened batchccews and manually looked at every chapter point (with the .scp open) and changed each episode's chapter points in the scp(a bit of a pain, but i've come this far). imported the scp and no "import failed" , then i compiled and held my breath(for a long time so i cheated a bit) and success. i followed the last part of "big 3 (w/menu)" using batchifoupdate. then as timekiller said using ifoedit changed all ifo's from pal to ntsc. bingo. i successfully did a complete pal to ntsc backup. what a relief. phew.

so if you do let scenaid make a .scp before you change the avs script timestamps should be right, correct? if that is the case, then, there are a few corrections to timekillers method. as mentioned in previous posts before. also, what threw me off for a while is his link to the big 3. his link is to the older method. the one that should be used is the newer one w/ numenu4u. i know the guides are almost the same but when i was trying to combine the ifo's i wasn't using batchifoupdate which is on the newer guide.

as far as an utility to make this process easier, that'd be awesome. i wish i had the skills to do that. ever since i saw your great program (numenu4u) it got me thinking, if this app. is able to do an automated (pal to ntsc) conversion what's not to say you can't run something that automates programs to do your main movie.

man you've been a whole lot of help. your app is brilliant. i guess the next thing someone will hopefully work out is getting something other than scenarist to make the back-up.

i am going to do one other disk and do it the right way (hopefully)

[NamPla]

Ah "ScenAID" not "SCENARIST", ah-ha. Now it all makes sense:

Item=Audio Stream
{
Item=Audio Play
{
Data=VTS03_01_80
Start Time To Video=00:00:00:00
Resolution=NTSC
Drop Type=Drop
Start Time=00:00:00:00
Duration=00:21:30:04
}
Stream Number=1
Language=English
Synchronization=Yes
}
}
Sub-Picture Streams=List
{
}
Highlight Stream=Highlight Stream
{
}
Angles=List
{
}
Scenes=List
{
Item=Scene
{
Name=VTS_03_V1_C1
Color Palette=VTS_3_Palette0
Angle Type=Seamless
Scene Time=00:00:00:00
Story Scenes=List
{
}
Angle Scenes=List
{
}
}
Item=Scene
{
Name=VTS_03_V1_C2
Color Palette=VTS_3_Palette0
Angle Type=Seamless
Scene Time=00:00:30:24
Story Scenes=List
{
}
Angle Scenes=List
{
}
}
Item=Scene
{
Name=VTS_03_V1_C3
Color Palette=VTS_3_Palette0
Angle Type=Seamless
Scene Time=00:06:19:08
Story Scenes=List
{
}
Angle Scenes=List
{
}
}
Item=Scene
{
Name=VTS_03_V1_C4
Color Palette=VTS_3_Palette0
Angle Type=Seamless
Scene Time=00:10:24:24
Story Scenes=List
{
}
Angle Scenes=List
{
}
}
Item=Scene
{
Name=VTS_03_V1_C5
Color Palette=VTS_3_Palette0
Angle Type=Seamless
Scene Time=00:14:59:13
Story Scenes=List
{
}
Angle Scenes=List
{
}
}
Item=Scene
{
Name=VTS_03_V1_C6
Color Palette=VTS_3_Palette0
Angle Type=Seamless
Scene Time=00:20:48:18
Story Scenes=List
{
}
Angle Scenes=List
{
}
}
Item=Scene
{
Name=VTS_03_V1_C7
Color Palette=VTS_3_Palette0
Angle Type=Seamless
Scene Time=00:21:30:14
Story Scenes=List
{
}
Angle Scenes=List
{
}
}
}
Divx=No
Divx Interval=2
Video Stream=Main Video Stream
{
Item=Main Video Play
{
Data=VTS03_001
Start Time To Video=00:00:00:00
Resolution=NTSC
Drop Type=Drop
Start Time=00:00:00:00
Duration=00:25:47:12
Start Time=00:00:00:00

I'm beginning to see the light.

[timekiller]

I have to say the process shown by timekiller is a little simplistic, and a LOT more work is needed to ensure scenarist won't throw a wobbly.

Guys,

Shortly after I posted my notes, I disappeared due to job demands, as I likely will once again.

I completely agree with this comment, it's certain my process is simplified and there will be all kinds of hiccups along the way due anything from the structure of your source DVD and the versions of the apps you are running. My notes/process was based on a single successful conversion.

That all being said, it did get us all started, didn't it?

One day this process will all be automated. I hope it's soon.