Combining VOB and Audio Files for Authoring

[N_laPlaca]

I am looking for software that will do this. What I specifically want to do
is rip one of my DVD'S Using shrink leaving out the audio streams and then adding the audio
from one of my audio cd's and then author a DVD with the resulting files. I
will need to be able to control when during the movie the audio starts. I am
sure there is something out there that will do this. Nick

[anzimike]

DVD-lab can do this. In tools section of DVD-lab you can adjust audio delay. Hear is link to section in online manual.
http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/Help/tools.htm

[N_laPlaca]

I tried to use the transcode using dvd lab but I got an error. Do the files already have to be in some specific type of format first? Am I going to have to encode audio from my cd using a certain bitrate first?

[anzimike]

If you are importing from cd you may have to convert to dvd-compliant spec, 48kh wav or ac3 or mp2 ( you can use besweet or goldwave), although I thought DVD-lab could do this too.

[N_laPlaca]

Encoded some files to wav using another encoder and then dragged one to the assets window and tried to do an audio delay and it said the file needs to be ac3 or mpa elemtary stream. So does anyone know where there is a free ac3 encoder by any chance. Tmpengc is 48 I think.

I am doing a project for a friend and was hoping to get this all done within the 30 day trial of dvd_lab and without having to spend too much since this is a 1 time project.

What I am doing is ripping the wizrd of oz and pink floyds dark side of the moon into 1 playable dvd. Not sure if anyone has heard of these 2 playing together. But if you start dark side of the moon at the 3rd lion roar with the volume down, all through the movie it seems as if it goes together. Coincidence most likely but you can't rewind or pause very easily at all. So if I could get this project to work it would be cool. Nick

[anzimike]

Try besweet with besweet gui to encode to ac3 48khz

[anzimike]

BTW, the project is referred to as "Dark Side of The Rainbow" and the effect is quite eerie, especially the tornado scene and the ending when she is waking up and they are singing "Home, home, again..."

[mats.hogberg]

ffmpeggui might be easier to use for just AC3 encodes. But note that CD audio is 44.1 kHz - DVD audio has to be 48 kHz!

/Mats

[N_laPlaca]

Yes the tornado scene is pretty cool and when the wicked witch is first seen on her bike the music gets immediately darker. I didn't watch it all the way through. I'll try those other programs to get my audio problem taken care of. Thanks for the advice so far. Nick

[N_laPlaca]

Ok I got the audio problem taken care of. Next is the timing issue. Is there anyway to preview audio and video together before compiling.I didn't see where you could. This would be very useful. I really need to be exact on this.

I could use the time code feature I guess and then convert seconds to milliseconds to get it exact. For some reason the time code starts at 59:59? Which is going to take a little calculating. what seemed like an easy project has turned into something a little more challenging than I thought. It's fun though.

This is my plan at this point. Rip the dvd using shrink minus the audio of course. I think I will join all the audio files using goldwave to make 1 big file instead of dragging several files in. Then I will just have to get the audio and video synched properly. Probably take some trial and error. DVD Lab seems like a very powerful program and I am sure the method I have in mind probably isn't the most efficient way to go so if anyone has any suggestions I'd like to hear them. Thanks. Nick

[anzimike]

Sounds like you're on the right track. I think that time code thing is a quirk of dvd-lab (experts, correct me if I'm wrong). Probably best way is to note the timecode at which the third roar occurs and enter that into audio delay in dvd-lab. BTW I made mine the old fashioned way using dvd recorder, audio inputs from cd player (Pink Floyd in disc repeat mode ) and s-video input from dvd player, playing Wizard, alas resulting in some quality loss. This was last year before I stumbled on the audio delay feature in dvd-lab. Your version should have better quality.

[borax]

For some reason the time code starts at 59:59?

That's a typical problem of rips. It would probably be better to really demultiplex your video to get a clean elementary video stream.

If you have 'clean' elementary streams (video as mpv or m2v, audio as mp2 or ac3), you can use MPEG2Schnitt to view/cut video and audio together. You may also correct the timeline between video and audio (audio offset) with this prog.

[N_laPlaca]

Thanks I'll check that out too. I'm still experimenting right now. Haven't actually started my little project. nick

[anzimike]

I just redid my dark side of the rainbow. rip movie files using decryptor or shrink reauthoring movie only. You may demux using decryptor. open goldwave. use record cd to capture all titles from cd. close all but first 2 titles, highlight title 2 and click copy. close title 2 and go to edit, paste at end. repeat this step until all 10 songs are combined. now save.click copy and add full cd to itself 2 times. now you have all 10 songs 3 times in a row, a little over two hours. now save. close goldwave. use besweet or ffmpeggui to convert to ac3. now open dvd-lab. import movie and ac3 file. highlight ac3 file and go to tools, audio delay. type 700 ms for delay and process. drag movie file to movie window and delayed ac3 to audio. if you like you can import chapters. they can be extracted as text file using decryptor or chapterxtractor. finish authoring. I usually delete menu, and draw links from first play and title buttons to movie and output. you can now burn outputted files and enjoy!

[N_laPlaca]

Thanks, I already made 1 big audio file using goldwave. I love that program. I don't actually have the wizard of oz movie yet. I wasn't sure how many milliseconds would be just right. I plan on using shrink. It's not going to be nearly as difficult as I thought. I just wasn't familiar with dvd_lab but I have been playing with it. Thanks for letting me know that it's a 700 millisecond delay. it's going to be cool to be able to backup and watch some of the more convincing scenes over again. I never knew it was called "dark side of the rainbow" Until I started this thread.

Also thanks for the tips about the menu and importing chapters. I really haven't played with that yet.I Was going to wait until I actually got the movie. Nick

[anzimike]

Online manual for dvd-lab is here;
http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/Help/index.htm
You can fiddle with the exact timing but the 700 ms is pretty close. Third lion roar is 7 seconds into the movie. Have fun!

[anzimike]

check this out
http://www.synchronicityarkive.com/dsotr.php
for more info

[anzimike]

I just made one with dvd-lab-pro and you can put both audio tracks on one dvd and select between them with your dvd remote.

[N_laPlaca]

I just made my first draft. I haven't actually burned it yet. I played back the files using power dvd. I did 7000 ms delay at first but the music was about 4 seconds too soon. Apparently there are a few versions of wizard of oz. Some have a black and white lion sequence and some have color followed by a black and white and according to the web site I was on you have to sync it with the b/w roar and not the color. my version only has color so I set the delay to 11000 ms and it is perfect. Very cool. I love the great gig in the sky sequence.

I think I am going to take advantage of some of the more advanced features of dvd_lab and make some scene selection menus. This is a really cool piece of software, I will probably end up buying it after the 30 days is up. anyway thanks for the help. It speeded up the learning curve. Nick