HDTV -> PC (off a DVB card)

[Abbadon]

The latest ProgDVB is quite stable, 4.45.2, a little hard to configure, but it works.

[likwid8]

I got the Skystar2. And I got a dish (DirecTV) from a guy here at work. I will report back my success/failures. Any software recommendations? PM if necessary.


Darryl

Any dish works, it just says directv on it for advertisement.... good luck.

Mytheatre 3.19 is recoomended

[dphirschler]

It works great! Still getting it completely configured, but so far I am impressed. BTW, I am using ProgDVB.


Darryl

[likwid8]

Congrats im glad i can help you

[ima2hd]

I currently have Dish Network set up right now. Do I have to move the dish to another satelitte or leave it in place to use the Hauppauge DVB-S card? I would really like to make this work & would appreciate some info.

Thanks,
Will

[satviewer2000]

DVB-HD will NOT work in Canada or the USA at this time, as all HD encryption has gone to Nagra2 which is thus far (and likely will be for a long long time) cannot be decrypted.

[ima2hd]

Sure HD is great but Heck I'd love to have just the normal SD program directly into my PC as likwid8 is doing.

[satviewer2000]

It can be done, and I did in the past, for both HD and SD. HD of course can no longer be accessed via DVB as it has a new encryption method. SD is still viewable and there are numerous forums which teach you how to do this. It is quite complex to set up, and it requires "high maintenance" even after it is set up to continue working. I found it more trouble than it was worth.

[ima2hd]

How hard would it be to just get the SD going & keep it going?

Thanks,
Will

[satviewer2000]

You must have an advanced working knowledge of how to edit hex and text files. You must know how to search for minute bits of information which may be located at dozens of different sites or forums. You may spend days or weeks trying to get the thing going, and when you finally do, the sat company sends yet another ECM that basically destroys what you just finished doing for the last week.

For me, it's all too much trouble ... I went back to using an IRD and a video capture card.

[Heff]

If you're talking DVB and satellite viewing it's not that much trouble and you can stay up just about all the time. I assume yo're talking the U.S.

You don't have to go all aorund finding bits of information and I've not had to use a hex editor. If you know what forum to go to. Like this one below.

http://forums.al7bar.tk/forumdisplay.php?f=50

[likwid8]

Well yes HD went to Nagra 2 unfortunately, but DISHNET still has HD on nagra 1. I just installed my 3rd dish on my roof today and i got HD channels. Althought it doesnt offer as much as BELL does, it still gives me quite a few HD channels. And I simply "love" watching HD.. love it!.

[tommyoz]

Well yes HD went to Nagra 2 unfortunately, but DISHNET still has HD on nagra 1. I just installed my 3rd dish on my roof today and i got HD channels. Althought it doesnt offer as much as BELL does, it still gives me quite a few HD channels. And I simply "love" watching HD.. love it!.

Where exactly are those channels? Is it on 110 or 119? and what channels are they?

[tommyoz]

Yea, that's what I thought. HD is pretty hard to find isn't it.

[cactusjack310]

If you're talking DVB and satellite viewing it's not that much trouble and you can stay up just about all the time. I assume yo're talking the U.S.

You don't have to go all aorund finding bits of information and I've not had to use a hex editor. If you know what forum to go to. Like this one below.

http://forums.al7bar.tk/forumdisplay.php?f=50

It won't let me view that page because I'm not a member. Is it worth signing up to view it?

I live in the US and have Dish Network and I'm interested in doing this too! I really don't care about the HD, I'd like to just be able to "download" the SD video stream into my computer so I could just burn it right away. It takes me like 4 hours to encode 1 hour of video I capture, plus I'm converting mpeg2 video to avi, then back to mpeg2 again. This would probably save me time and quality! So all I would need to get is the DVB card and plug the coax cable from my dish into it? Since I have a Dish Network subsciption this wouldn't be illegal, right? Also if anyone else knows of some websites that could help me out, please post them! I have no idea of what to look up so any help is appreciated! Thanks!

[Heff]

Yes it's worthing signing up for. If you're paranoid just create a hotmail account, it's free and so is the registration. This is THE forum you want. a 2nd one but of les usefullenss is:

http://dvbn.happysat.org/

Also this particular thread in that forum tells of easy conversion of PCI-DVB recordings to DVD:

http://forums.al7bar.tk/showthread.php?t=19366

[cactusjack310]

O.K. Thanks alot! I'm going to check that out right now...

[likwid8]

Thanks everyone for particapating in this thread I wasnt expecting much of an response but I guess it blew out a big explosion of interest. This isnt over yet though, I plan on waiting on Nagra2 to come out so we can see what we can do. HDTV is not available off FTA, but since FTA is DVB, and this PCI setup is DVB signal, technically you are getting HDTV off FTA. When really HDTV is off OTA/ATSC only. I guess the only way to get HDTV off FTA is through PCI-DVB setup. Kool

[tommyoz]

Thanks everyone for particapating in this thread I wasnt expecting much of an response but I guess it blew out a big explosion of interest. This isnt over yet though, I plan on waiting on Nagra2 to come out so we can see what we can do. HDTV is not available off FTA, but since FTA is DVB, and this PCI setup is DVB signal, technically you are getting HDTV off FTA. When really HDTV is off OTA/ATSC only. I guess the only way to get HDTV off FTA is through PCI-DVB setup. Kool

likwid, that wasn't my question. I know how FTA works. My question was where exactly are those HD channels? Is it on 110 or 119? and what channels are they? Why are you dodging this question?

[likwid8]

im not sure, whatever the dishnet HD feed signal is, would be the same one for dvb. But It might of switched to nagra 2 not too sure.
Give it a try.

[tommyoz]

likwid8,

In case you don't get it yet, I am questioning you getting HDTV even through PCI. I am not trying to achieve HDTV because it's not achievable.
It's all Nag2 and there may be 1 PBS HDTV feed floating around.

How can you not be sure what HDTV channels you are getting?

[likwid8]

likwid8,

In case you don't get it yet, I am questioning you getting HDTV even through PCI. I am not trying to achieve HDTV because it's not achievable.
It's all Nag2 and there may be 1 PBS HDTV feed floating around.

How can you not be sure what HDTV channels you are getting?

HDTV is (was) available through PCI, sure why not, its the reason I even posted this thread. Iv captured HD feed off this card, but the pic u saw on this thread was off the digital feed (non-HD) which looks really good, doesnt look good on thread but it is. If i had a sample i would show you. It evens captures AC3 audio aswell. Wether you'd like to believe me or not is your problem, but I wouldnt wanna come on here and start BS'ing on something I wasnt sure what i was talkin bout. Im pretty sure alot of people can agree with me. Not getting technical on this situation but the PCI has all the capabilities as the HDTV card to receive the HD feed. The only diff between this and the actual HD card is that the actual HD card allows UHF signals (Terk-55 HD antenna) to receive local HD feeds. Im pretty sure the PCI doesnt but if it does then the more the better. Ill check that out right now actually and Ill reply on this matter. Of course youll need a comptabile program to acknowledge the fact that it can and will allow these kinds of feeds. The internal program that the PCI card comes with is sh*t and worthless. Anyways to answer your question. I dunno wether you meant if you can get HDTV at all through the PCI card, or just after it went to nagra 2, but heres both my answers. Yes u can and always could of before it went to Nagra 2. And now thats it on Nagra 2, theyr might be a slight chance HD is still on Nagra 1 through Dishnet.

[tommyoz]

I rest my case. HDTV is no longer available because of Nag2. Which means you are not getting HDTV period. If it were Nag1 then yes it is achievable.

[likwid8]

Well this thread was for me tosay that with a PCI card you can receive HDTV feeds, instead of buying a HDTV card. Your arguement is obsolete since it has nothing to do with the thread. It does but this thread ended up in a diff direction. Anyways, regardless of what is available right now, point to all of this was its possible to receive HD on PCI.

[tommyoz]

Well yes HD went to Nagra 2 unfortunately, but DISHNET still has HD on nagra 1. I just installed my 3rd dish on my roof today and i got HD channels. Althought it doesnt offer as much as BELL does, it still gives me quite a few HD channels. And I simply "love" watching HD.. love it!.

My point is obsolete?

[likwid8]

That is true but they changed to Nagra 2 like few weeks ago, so it happened recently.

[SatStorm]

May I?
In theory, you can use any emulation Common Access Module (like Matrix, Magic, Dragon, etc) and an official nagravision 2 card.
Those emulation modules bypass the code that combines the card with the CAS of your receiver.
A more official way to do this, is with Alphacrypt cam. Of course, you need a DVB /s Card with Common Interface

In Europe, they do use nagravision 2 in Spain (and soon on Portugal & Poland). The official cards are supposed to work ONLY with the official receivers, but using those other CAMs, you do your job with any receiver / DVB PCI card with a CAM slot
I don't know if that is possible in USA, neither I know if someone test it there. In theory, I don't see any problem, but theory to practice is a long road...

[likwid8]

Yes only for Europe.

[SatStorm]

So, I assume that it is tested and it doesn't work?
That's a pitty...

[likwid8]

Its ok itll be worth the time.....