how do i convert quicktime mov to avi

[undead.ltd]

how do i convert quicktime mov to avi? i want to do that so that i can convert it to vcd, but im having problem.
its not detecting it, meaning, when i go to files, and open, i don't see the movie file ther. im using Tmpgenc to convert to vcd, and it says that you can convert QuickTime MOV videos by downloading the QTReader.vfp and copying it to the TMPGEnc folder. i tried that, and it didn't work. so im going to try converting it to avi, or divx and then converting it to vcd.

-thank you

[undead.ltd]

in Tmpgenc, it asks for a video file, and a audio file, and it says that Open the video by clicking on Browse. The audio will be opened automatically(If you have a different audio source then choose it manually). i get the video, but thers no audio, i can't find it. to do it manually it says that to do it with virtualdub, im having problems doing that. is ther a guide here that can help me with that? i cna't find it.....

-thank you

[guns1inger]

First, try changing the priority of the Quicktime filter in Environment Settings (under the options menu).

Next, try browsing to the same file for the audio and see what happens. If this doesn't work, load the movie in VirtualDub. Set Audio to Full Processing Mode. Check Compression in the Audio menu and make sure <No Compression (PCM) > is selected.

Now, under the File menu, select Save WAV, and save out your uncompressed audio file. It could be fairly large. You can now load this into Tmpgenc as your audio source and go from there.

[Matt D]

I don't use TMPGEnc for this because it has issues with some MOVs. I've had great luck using some of the Rad Video Bink tools with MOVs so you could try that if TMPGEnc isn't up to the task.

Here's a guide that shows the steps

https://www.videohelp.com/mov2avi.htm

[mats.hogberg]

I've been there too, and after trying each and every guide here, nothing worked, except for, like Matt D says, Rad Video Tools, which turned my mov into AVI without a hitch. (The mov's where from a Nikon digital camera).

/Mats

[undead.ltd]

wow, thanks y'all.
on rad video tools, when i click convert after i get my file, the output file, and the output type, it asks me about video compression, i don't have the PICVideo MJPEG Codec, i dl'ed it, but i got like 3 kinds of PICVideo. I don't know if i said that correctly or not, so im giong to list the types of compresser i have, btw, wht is a compressor?
Cinepak codec by radius
Intel 4:2:0 V2.50
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2
Intel Indeo(R) Video 4.5
Intel IYUV codec
Microsoft RLE
Microsoft Video 1
Microsoft H.263 Video Codec
Microsoft H.261 Video Codec
Xvid MPEG-4 Codec
DivX ; - ) Mpeg-4 low-motion
DivX ; - ) Mpeg-4 Fast- Motion
PICVideo M-JPEG 3 VfW Codec
PICVideo Loseless Jpeg Codec
PICVideo Wavelett 2000 Codec
Full Frames (compressed)

wht do these mean? and which one do i choose?

-thank you

[Matt D]

A compressor helps you reduce the size of your output file. Right now PICVideo MJPEG is one of the best options and will output a file in the range of 10x smaller than choosing to output uncompressed.
In answer to your question though, you should pic the first one listed "PICVideo M-JPEG 3 VfW Codec" on your list here. Also choose "configure" (I think) and set MJPEG at setting 19.

[undead.ltd]

thanks Matt!
How can i get rid of this. It gives me this error before converting:

PICVideo M-JPEG 3
Warning: compression in trial mode will permanently "brand" the output with the trial mode "watermark" text. Are you certain you want to continue.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I know this is not related to the topic, but i didn't want to start a new thread because of this. i have a BIN file, and i found a guide that tells me how to burn a BIN file with VCDEasy, but the problem is that, i can't find the V1.1.3 and the guide uses that version to show how to do it. i have the v2.1.1 trial versoin, and interface are totally different between the 2. And i don't have nero either...

-thanks!

[Matt D]

Unless you purchase the codec you will get branded. It's $20 I think and worth the cost to buy, but you could go with another codec if you don't want to pony up the bucks. Uncompressed might be ok depending on the length of the video, or you could try Xvid, but the quality will be somewhat less.
Also about the BIN, I'm not really sure what the solution is for that, but you can get VCDEASY v1.1.3 at this website. It's in Russian, but if you click on the FTP buttons on the page your download will begin.
http://www.zoom.idg.pl/ftp/pobierz/pc/1289.html

[mats.hogberg]

A bin file (often accompanied by a .TOC file) can be burned with most apps, even Nero, I think!

/Mats

[KBeee]

how do i convert quicktime mov to avi? i want to do that so that i can convert it to vcd, but im having problem.
its not detecting it, meaning, when i go to files, and open, i don't see the movie file ther. im using Tmpgenc to convert to vcd, and it says that you can convert QuickTime MOV videos by downloading the QTReader.vfp and copying it to the TMPGEnc folder. i tried that, and it didn't work. so im going to try converting it to avi, or divx and then converting it to vcd.

-thank you

You could use EO Video to convert a *.mov file straight to *.mpg instead of trying mov->avi->mpg for VCD

[undead.ltd]

kbee, how do i do that? i go to convert, output format -> MPEG, Video compressoin -> MPEG1, VCD, SVCD (if i want to make a vcd of this, i choose vcd rite?), Audio compressoin -> MPEG layer I, MPEG layer II (which one?), after that wht do i do?

[upshot]

I didn't notice anyone suggesting Quicktime pro.... It will do the trick too...

and I'll second buying PICvideo MJPEG 3 also... I love it!

[undead.ltd]

quicktime pro? it'll convert the file too? don't you have to buy quicktime pro?

[Capmaster]

I also recommend getting the 3ivx codec if you plan to be working with .mov files from Macs on a regular basis

[undead.ltd]

wht are macs? lol, sorry.... noob at work

[upshot]

Umm... yep.. If $30 is hard for you to spend I'd suggest a different hobby:

Speedwalking?
Trainspotting?

Yuk Yuk...

[Capmaster]

wht are macs? lol, sorry.... noob at work

[Matt D]

Mats- Yup, Nero will burn BINs, but he doesn't have Nero.

KBee- EU Video is decent, but $30, not sure if he'll want to pay that.

Upshot- Same with Quicktime Pro, it's $30.


Good ideas IMO, but if you can do it for free I usually go that route.

[undead.ltd]

i can't seem to do with Nero Express.... do i need Nero 5 or 6 for this? cause i don't have that.

[mats.hogberg]

5 or 6 yes. DL a trial, or Google for freeware apps capable of writing BIN. Cdburner XP is one example.

/Mats

[undead.ltd]

ok i wnet out and borrowd my friend nero 6. now how do i burn the .bin file? i went to burn image to disk, but that didn't work. where do i go and burn it?

and how do i use EO video to convert my .mov file to .mpg? OR whts the next best compressoin in rad video tools?

in VCDEasy, it tells me to turn on cdrdao and then restart VCDEasy. but when i do that, the cdrdao is turned off, and i have to check it again and restart it. and still its not on when i restart it. whts up with that?

-thanks

[undead.ltd]

can i make a vcd via nero? do i like just load the .avi file? i tried getting the audio out through virtualdub and use it in tmpgenc, but thats not working out , it tells me:
No audeio decompressor could be found to decompress the source audio format
wht does that mean?

-thanks

[mats.hogberg]

CDRDAO requires a wotking ASPI layer, something Windows doesn't come with. There ought to be some help on the subject at the VCDEasy home page.
You ought to have a .CUE file with the (mostly) same name as the BIN, (I see I wrote " a .TOC before - don't know what I waqs thinking of!) and this is the one to open. (In Nero, there are several ways to write image, the one I use is via the File menu, Open...)
Nero thinks it can make VCD from AVI but since it's a "black box" type of process (AVI in one end, a shining VCD out the other) you have no control or no idea of how it goes until you try to play the VCD (in contrast to doing it all by hand, where you can check the output after each stage of the process). To boot, Neros mpeg1 encoder sux, and many DVD players refuses to recognize a Nero made VCD, specially if you let Nero create a menu.
The message about missing audio decompressor is just that - you don't have the required audio codec in your system. Use GSpot to find out what codec is needed, download and install that. Don't reach for a codec pack. Until VirtualDub stops complaining about this missing audio codec, Nero will almost certainly also fail at decoding the audio, but in contrast to VDub/TMPGenc, it will probably not tell you, just happily churn out an audio-free VCD...
As you might have guessed, I'm not that happy about Neros format conversion capabilities - I really recommend reading some AVI to VCD guides, using VirtualDub, TMPGEnc and VCDEasy, the Three Musketeers of "AVI to VCD".

/Mats

[Cornucopia]

I'd get QT Pro, IIWY (actually already have 2 copies-Mac & PC). Does the trick nicely.

If you don't want that route, Quicktime Alternative may work.

Also, if you already have an NLE/VideoEditing app, such as Premiere or Vegas, it's a good bet you can do the conversion there by loading up the clip(s) and exporting each as different format. May not have all the "codec options" that some converters would, but still works.

Scott

[mats.hogberg]

Does QT Pro go the other way too (MOV to AVI)? I thought it only encoded to MOV...

/Mats

[ropdoh]

Well here's what I do to convert quicktime to avi, Avisynth:
http:www.avisynth.org/QuickTime

The real problem with quicktime files is that if you downloaded them, they may have various copy protection bits set, which limit your ability to convert the audio / video or both.
I've had good success with the above methods.
Once you got an AVS file, just load it into VirtualDub and away you go...

[Baldrick]

Does QT Pro go the other way too (MOV to AVI)? I thought it only encoded to MOV...

/Mats

Yes it supports MOV to AVI also.

rophod: QTReader.vfp doesn't work with many mooooooovs.

[mats.hogberg]

<edit>nevermind...</edit>
/Mats

[Cornucopia]

Just so you're not unpleasantly surprised by the news, I wanted to let those of you who might be thinking of using QTPro for exporting MOV's to AVI--These are the supported codecs for most default/out-of-the-box installations of QTPro using it's native export feature (that means, not enhanced through Cleaner, ProCoder, etc):

• (Video)
  Uncompressed (PC) (Mac)
  DV (PC) (Mac), couple versions
  BMP compressed ?? (PC) (Mac)
  Cinepak (PC) (Mac)
  Indeo 5.1 (PC) (Mac)
  Indeo 4.4 (PC) (Mac)
  Indeo 3.2 (Mac)
  Indeo 2.1 (Mac)
  MS Video1 (Mac)
  MS RLE (Mac)
  Intel RAW (Mac)
  various Picture sequence formats
  
  (Audio)
  Uncompressed WAV (PC) (Mac)
  muLaw (PC) (Mac)
  aLaw (PC) (Mac)
  IMA ADPCM (Mac)

My copies of Cleaner5 considerably enhance output variations to include:

DivX5
AVID
HuffYUV
I263
Techsmith
On2VP3
WMV9
3ivX4.5.1
etc...

So, for short clips, it's probably best to export to an intermediate with an uncompressed or lightly compressed (DV) codec and then convert again (with say VDub) to your destination AVI format. Yeah, I know, extra steps, but it takes some of the bugs out of the equation and gives you much more variety.

Food for thought.

Scott