Hiding your IP address??

[beavereater]

Does anyone here do it...?? Software?? Also, I was wondering about closing certain ports. I use Sygate but I keep getting scanned, wondering if I can hide myself properly. OR am I just overdoing it??

[Faustus]

There is no way to hid your IP address excpet for a few specific uses. If you want to hide you IP on the web you got to use a proxy, because without a proxy or your actual IP the data has no idea where to go.

[beavereater]

I see...so basically when I visit a site, they get my IP and can track me down...or at least to my ISP

[thecoalman]

I see...so basically when I visit a site, they get my IP and can track me down...or at least to my ISP

No they can track it to you. IP address is just that, it's an address like a street address that is specific to your computer, without one it would be like sending a "snail mail" with no address.

As flaystus stated you can use a proxy server which acts as a go between hiding your IP from the computer you want to communicate with but the proxy still needs your IP.

[bazooka]

Get a router.

[Faustus]

Get a router.

No doubt, if you cant afford a sonic wall (very expensive) I'm partial to Dlink's built in firewall. Seems easy to work without without tons of missing features.

[beavereater]

I have a router, but it messes up my connections. Have 2 PCs...anyway, thanks for the input. The reason I asked were for times when I see this...should I worry!?

[iooi]

I have a router, but it messes up my connections. Have 2 PCs...anyway, thanks for the input. The reason I asked were for times when I see this...should I worry!?

Name: shieldsup.grc.com
IP Address: 204.1.226.228
Location: Irvine (33.600N, 117.700W)
Network: VRIO-204-000

Registrant:
GIBSON RESEARCH CORPORATION (GRC-DOM)
27071 Cabot Road, Suite 105
Laguna Hills, CA 92653
US

Thats the ip thats been scanning you..... Did you run the shields up test from their site ????

[beavereater]

I have a router, but it messes up my connections. Have 2 PCs...anyway, thanks for the input. The reason I asked were for times when I see this...should I worry!?

Name: shieldsup.grc.com
IP Address: 204.1.226.228
Location: Irvine (33.600N, 117.700W)
Network: VRIO-204-000

Registrant:
GIBSON RESEARCH CORPORATION (GRC-DOM)
27071 Cabot Road, Suite 105
Laguna Hills, CA 92653
US

Thats the ip thats been scanning you..... Did you run the shields up test from their site ????

Oops...is that it!?

[bazooka]

How does it mess up your connections?

[beavereater]

When I hook up directly to the modem, I get a connection...but when I hook it up through the router, it doesn't want to connect. I switched from ADSL to cable a while ago, and since then, it's been a problem. Called the cable company, and they said "...it must be the router." I've been trying to call the router company but I got lazy...

Any advice bazooka??

[bazooka]

You could try and repair the connection in the network properties.

In your web browser, usually type in the address of the router and set up the router.

Theoretically, after these steps are done, things should work.

You probably will need to reset the modem as well.

[Faustus]

You can also look up the info on howto do a hardware reset on the router and set it up from scratch again.

[beavereater]

OK...I just tried something like the PROXY server thing this morning before work. Didn't really work out too well...shut off the PC and came home and NOW I can't seem to connect at ALL. BUT if I log off and log on under my girlfriends settings...I have no problem connecting. What did I do!?

I used some anonymous (SP?) web thing software that connects through a proxy...anyway....HELP

[Faustus]

change your proxy settings back to none, or uninstall the software you installed.

[beavereater]

change your proxy settings back to none, or uninstall the software you installed.

Thanks for the quick reply. Believe it or not, I figured it out before coming back here. I've learned my lesson gots ta get me a book er something!!

[Skoorb]

You cannot hide your IP because, as mentioned, then nobody knows how to communicate with you, much how nobody can call your house if you have no phone number, and cannot send you mail if you have no mailing address.

If you truly want to "hide" it, you can use a proxy server, and then whomever communicates with you sees the IP of the proxy. The proxy still has your address, of course.

[bazooka]

You cannot hide your IP because, as mentioned, then nobody knows how to communicate with you, much how nobody can call your house if you have no phone number, and cannot send you mail if you have no mailing address.

If you truly want to "hide" it, you can use a proxy server, and then whomever communicates with you sees the IP of the proxy. The proxy still has your address, of course.

You sir are wrong.

[Skoorb]

You cannot hide your IP because, as mentioned, then nobody knows how to communicate with you, much how nobody can call your house if you have no phone number, and cannot send you mail if you have no mailing address.

If you truly want to "hide" it, you can use a proxy server, and then whomever communicates with you sees the IP of the proxy. The proxy still has your address, of course.

You sir are wrong.

Your little advisory of a router - was that intended to imply that he could buy a router from best buy and suddenly can conduct hacking attacks across the net and the authorites can't see his IP? Because that's the impression you gave. If he uses a router there's still, obviously, going to be a uniquely identifying IP address that links him (or the router) to anything he's doing (regardless of how he communicates with the router), and it will be trackable back to him.

[bazooka]

You cannot hide your IP because, as mentioned, then nobody knows how to communicate with you, much how nobody can call your house if you have no phone number, and cannot send you mail if you have no mailing address.

If you truly want to "hide" it, you can use a proxy server, and then whomever communicates with you sees the IP of the proxy. The proxy still has your address, of course.

You sir are wrong.

Your little advisory of a router - was that intended to imply that he could buy a router from best buy and suddenly can conduct hacking attacks across the net and the authorites can't see his IP? Because that's the impression you gave. If he uses a router there's still, obviously, going to be a uniquely identifying IP address that links him (or the router) to anything he's doing (regardless of how he communicates with the router), and it will be trackable back to him.

What I said is the router acts as a proxy. It makes your computers invisible. The number you are referring to is the outside address. Routers use network address translation and hide the computers from the net. The router hides your computers ip address, because the ip numbers that the computers are assigned are private.

[Skoorb]

You cannot hide your IP because, as mentioned, then nobody knows how to communicate with you, much how nobody can call your house if you have no phone number, and cannot send you mail if you have no mailing address.

If you truly want to "hide" it, you can use a proxy server, and then whomever communicates with you sees the IP of the proxy. The proxy still has your address, of course.

You sir are wrong.

Your little advisory of a router - was that intended to imply that he could buy a router from best buy and suddenly can conduct hacking attacks across the net and the authorites can't see his IP? Because that's the impression you gave. If he uses a router there's still, obviously, going to be a uniquely identifying IP address that links him (or the router) to anything he's doing (regardless of how he communicates with the router), and it will be trackable back to him.

What I said is the router acts as a proxy. It makes your computers invisible. The number you are referring to is the outside address. Routers use network address translation and hide the computers from the net. The router hides your computers ip address, because the ip numbers that the computers are assigned are private.

Right, but who gives the router the IP? His ISP, so the IP can still be traced, via his ISP, back to his router at his apartment/house! Unless he's part of a huge network behind the router, he can't possibly hide behind the router and pretend like somebody else was doing whatever he is doing.

[bazooka]

This is irrelevant anyway because the isp's do not have to fork over your identity. And they usually only keep the logs for so long.

The external address rotates as well so it is not a big deal.

[beavereater]

Thanks for the advice...I was just a bit confused about how IP addresses work, and how people could find me. Well, I kinda have a better idea now. Thanks...

[Skoorb]

This is irrelevant anyway because the isp's do not have to fork over your identity. And they usually only keep the logs for so long.

The external address rotates as well so it is not a big deal.

ISPs have been forking over plenty of identities to the MPAA/RIAA All those groups need to do is say to the ISP that they have such and such IP sharing such and such content, and boom the ISP hands the info over. The external address may change (although in many cases they don't - my IP has been the same for a long time, and I'm not paying for a static one per se), though in some cases I don't see why they wouldn't keep a history of which IPs a particular user has had.

[bazooka]

This is irrelevant anyway because the isp's do not have to fork over your identity. And they usually only keep the logs for so long.

The external address rotates as well so it is not a big deal.

ISPs have been forking over plenty of identities to the MPAA/RIAA All those groups need to do is say to the ISP that they have such and such IP sharing such and such content, and boom the ISP hands the info over. The external address may change (although in many cases they don't - my IP has been the same for a long time, and I'm not paying for a static one per se), though in some cases I don't see why they wouldn't keep a history of which IPs a particular user has had.

Recent court cases like the verizon case has said that the isp's do not have to fork over their customers info. The industry has no proof and the isp's that have given their customers info have betrayed the customer willingly. Filesharing is the driving force behind broadband. The ip addresses do change. That is why the riaa has mistakenly went after grandmothers that have macs and people that do not even use peer 2 peer programs.

I am just stating the facts.

Don't shoot the messenger.

[Skoorb]

This is irrelevant anyway because the isp's do not have to fork over your identity. And they usually only keep the logs for so long.

The external address rotates as well so it is not a big deal.

ISPs have been forking over plenty of identities to the MPAA/RIAA All those groups need to do is say to the ISP that they have such and such IP sharing such and such content, and boom the ISP hands the info over. The external address may change (although in many cases they don't - my IP has been the same for a long time, and I'm not paying for a static one per se), though in some cases I don't see why they wouldn't keep a history of which IPs a particular user has had.

Recent court cases like the verizon case has said that the isp's do not have to fork over their customers info. The industry has no proof and the isp's that have given their customers info have betrayed the customer willingly. Filesharing is the driving force behind broadband. The ip addresses do change. That is why the riaa has mistakenly went after grandmothers that have macs and people that do not even use peer 2 peer programs.

I am just stating the facts.

Don't shoot the messenger.

I heard Verizon was playing hard ball. I hope that the trend continues - not that it would affect me, of course But, for everyone else!