MPG straight from DVD doesn't play in Quicktime, WMP

[bluedevlx]

Situation:
I have a DVD-R that I ripped to my HD and converted to .MPG with TMPGEnc DVD Author which then gives me "TDA-DVS-2004-11-15-0000.mpg" Size: 3.7GB

Error when trying to play with Quicktime:
Couldn't open the file "TDA-DVS-2004-11-15-0000.mpg" because it is not a file that Quicktime understands.

Problem when playing in Windows Media Player:
It only contains 13 seconds of the file.

But it all works fine when I use my WinDVD software to play the movie. It plays all the way through.

I'm trying to convert the DVD to MOV format. And I come to the simple conclusion that I must first convert to MPG and then convert the MPG to MOV. But if I can't open up the MPG with Quicktime to convert it to MPG then we have a problem.

I'll try using WinAVI and converting the format to MPEG-4 or something. Let me know what to do someone.

Thank You

[mats.hogberg]

Isn't QuickTime a mpeg4 codec?
Just beacuse QuickTime can't play mpeg2 shouldn't mean anything when it comes to encoding it to .mov - take a look at what input formats QuickTime Pro supports - that's what counts.

/Mats

[bluedevlx]

Here is the information of the File:

File path: G:\JVC_DVD_ROM_PVD\Copy of TDA-DVS-2004-11-15-0000.mpg
File type: MPEG-2
File size: 3.72 GB
Created by: 2004/11/15

Video Information:
Original duration: 00:56:47:27
Bitrate: 8.41 MB/sec
Resolution: 720x480
Frame rate: 29.97 fps

I'm wondering if I can convert the MPEG-2 to MPEG-4 so that it will be able to be viewed by QuickTime and then placed in the MOV container with qt.

Let me know what to do to get this 3.7GB file working with QUICKTIME!

Thank You

[bluedevlx]

PowerDirector can play the video fine
WinDVD plays the video fine

Windows Media Player plays 13 seconds
QuickTime can't open it because it doesn't understand it.

[bluedevlx]

Also, I just tried
WinAVI
Mpegable X4 Live

And they to only view 12 seconds of the movie. What is going on! This is where I think the format of the video comes into play.

WinDVD, PowerDirector see the whole thing fine so i'm concluding that it's still in DVD format just with .MPG at the ending after I used TMPGEnc to convert the DVD folder to .MPG

I don't know where to begin next.

[mats.hogberg]

I'd do a lossless conversion of your mpg to AVI with VirtualDubMod, since QT Pro seems to like only AVI as input. Then encode this AVI to mov using Quicktime Pro. Possibly you can frame serve from VirtualDub to QT Pro to avoid the huge intermediate AVI step.
This 12 seconds barrier seems a little odd - might be a problem in the mpeg. You might have to re-rip it.

/Mats

[bluedevlx]

I've ripped it twice. And I made a copy of the .MPG to play with. I used DVD Shrink to rip it to my HD then the TMPGEnc DVD Author to create a singly .MPG file of the DVD folder.

I'll try to convert that to AVI format and then QT it. Lets see how that goes.

[mats.hogberg]

... and I didn't even know TDA had a VOB to MPEG tool - I use ReJig for this...

/Mats

[bluedevlx]

This is hilarious time to free up alot of disk space because it seems with 2 hours left of converting to avi it was just 14.7 GB

Is this kind of stuff normal? I can't even have a file over 4.7 GB on FAT32 partition which is lame so I had to switch to my NTFS partition with my os on it. Now i'll have to clear up some 100GB of space and make it NTFS.

Is all of this normal just to get a DVD-R 4.7GB to .MOV quicktime format?

[mats.hogberg]

Don't know, but it's quite normal for an uncompressed AVI. Did you try frameserving from VirtualDub (or AviSynth) to QT Pro to avoid this intermediate AVI file?
You coulkd of course also encode to Xvid/DivX AVI as an itermediate step, but then you'll lose some quality...
Huffyuv codec is also lossless - IIRC it reduces the size of AVi by at least 50% compared to uncompressed.

/Mats

[bluedevlx]

Instead of running everything on my machine I just moved over to another machine so I can use mine

Well i'm going to try the frameserving from VirtualDub (or AviSynth) to QT Pro to avoid this intermediate AVI file.

[bluedevlx]

I'm trying to use Rejig to make the file but it's m2v so i'm going along with it. And going to see what happens from here.

What exactly must I do mats?

[bluedevlx]

ok rejig doesn't work for me. causes an error.

[mats.hogberg]

ReJig errors out while demuxing the m2v from the VOB(s)? In that case, there simply MUST be something wrong with the VOB. ReJig has never failed me so far... What error does it report (if any)?

/Mats

[bluedevlx]

Just get a windows error stating rejig encountered some failure bla bla bla on windows xp home. But after you use rejig are you actually able to view your file with quicktime still? I just don't know exactly what to choose rejig has many options to do.

[bluedevlx]

Do I use file Mode, IFO Mode, DVD Backup? Which one do I use mats

[mats.hogberg]

IFO mode, select the main title (I take it it's the man title you want, right?)

/Mats

[bluedevlx]

Alright I have the m2v and the audio ac3 file.
What do I do next?

[bluedevlx]

Alright I just tried moving on and opened up TMPGEnc and I downloaded the m2v codec and was able to select the movie. But now i'm trying to also select the ac3 and I downloaded the ac3 filter which installed a few files and then I chose the .exe from the files that it installed but that didn't help. I don't know what the hell i'm doing.

[bluedevlx]

Ok this tmpgenc is wicked. Is this what you do mats

[bluedevlx]

Ok I converted the ac3 to .wav with Headac3he
And I'm encoding it with TMPGEnc right now and I chose to put it on 800MB NTSC/ something I forgot but
Now i'll just wait to see the output and how it sounds and plays. And then i'll see if it opens in Quicktime and once that happens i'll convert. I'll keep you up-to-date mats. Thank You

[mats.hogberg]

NO! TMPGEnc will just produce another mpeg! You load the mv2 in VirtualDubMod and save out an AVI (uncopmressed or huffyouv or DivX or Xvid or...) as AVI is what QT Pro seems to handle best.
You seem to be converting blindly in the hope that something might work...

/Mats

[bluedevlx]

I get this error when trying to open my .m2v file This IS AMAZING!
No video frames found in MPEG file.

[mats.hogberg]

Sure you're using VirtualDubMod?

/Mats

[bluedevlx]

ok that was a really big big booboo. I'm using it now and i'm working on it. Now how do I go about making it not make a file over 10GB?

[bluedevlx]

I seem to come along this issue where the uncompressed avi is going to be
100988.33 Megabyte (MB) = 98.621416 Gigabyte (GB)

I'm using the virtualdubMod and I added the video and I don't know howto add the audio.wav so I was just doing it without it and was thinking about adding it when the video is done. But I don't think i'll be finishing if I don't have 100 GB cleared..
How the heck do other people get dvd's into mpg format.l.

[bluedevlx]

i'm doing the divx avi save with vdbMod
and it's looking good so i'm going to step out. brb

[bluedevlx]

Alright it encoded really good under the divx/avi format. And it was compressed to 364MB and now I'm appending the streaming audio to the video and it boosted the file size to like 900MB holy smokes. So once this is finished i'll try and load it with quicktime and see what happens

[Cornucopia]

What do you want your final file to be? Does it have to be Quicktime?

If you want quicktime to play it, get Apple's Quicktime MPEG2 playback component/plugin ($29US). You can, if you want, also get the QTpro upgrade for another $29, which'll allow you to export to something else.
(I'm assuming of course that the file isn't encrypted/copyprotected)

Note: QT with the MPEG2 plugin can play the video, but it can't play the audio if it's AC3 (MP2 or PCM is ok). There are not QT-compatible AC3 decoder plugins.

Scott

[bluedevlx]

I'm buying the QuickTime 6 MPEG-2 Playback Component right now.

What do I do about adding the audio to the video?