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  1. Member daamon's Avatar
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    Not if they're sprayed evenly and lightly - maybe requiring more than one coat.

    And, the latter is a case for personal preference and / or convenience.

    Personally, when I start producing DVDs of personal holidays, friends weddings etc. - I shall definitely be wanting to take that extra bit of time to make the disc look good, having taken so much time to shoot it properly, edit it well, author it with good menus etc.
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  2. Sure.. I can see that in that case... I guess I meant more in a DAY TO DAY scenario
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    Originally Posted by bobaber
    I have another post on this subject but here is what I found. I am using Minwax water based polycrylic clear gloss. The advantage is if you get any runs on the recording side they can be wiped off with a damp cloth, but it is very water proof after it drys and it drys fast. The oder is almost non existant. I took a disk printed on the Epson R200, 30 minutes after printing the disk I sprayed it with Minwax waterbased polycrylic. a few hours later I sprayed the recording side with a heavy coat of the polycrylic, took it to a sink and washed it under the faucet, wiped it dry with paper towel and recorded a movie on it and it recorded and played back perfectly. The printed side remained just like it came from the printer.
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    Are you saying you have sprayed the recording side and it still plays?
    I am surprised.
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  4. He just sprayed the recording side with Polycrylic and then immediately washed it off. Any water based product will do that.
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    Please, what's the spray intended for ?

    What would happen if people don't use it ?

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  6. Nothing would happen necessarily. The purpose is to protect the disk from liquids that would ruin the surface and to give it a fine finish. Most people like the glossy surface but I much prefer the satin look and feel.
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    I'm new to printing on CD/DVD's and would like some clarification on this particular subject of spray coatings. Are you printing on "printable" CD/DVD's and then spraying to protect the image or are you printing on "regular" CD/DVD's and then spraying to seal the image so it stays on the regular media.

    Thanks for any clarifications.
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    Spraying on Inkjet printables only.
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    Originally Posted by bobaber
    I have another post on this subject but here is what I found. I am using Minwax water based polycrylic clear gloss. The advantage is if you get any runs on the recording side they can be wiped off with a damp cloth, but it is very water proof after it drys and it drys fast. The oder is almost non existant. I took a disk printed on the Epson R200, 30 minutes after printing the disk I sprayed it with Minwax waterbased polycrylic. a few hours later I sprayed the recording side with a heavy coat of the polycrylic, took it to a sink and washed it under the faucet, wiped it dry with paper towel and recorded a movie on it and it recorded and played back perfectly. The printed side remained just like it came from the printer.
    Since the Minwax Polycrylic is water based, are you telling us that it doesn't make the printed side smear/run when you spray it? If not, then I'm gonna try some. I would think that any water based protectant would have an adverse effect on the ink.
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    Originally Posted by Bodyslide
    Spraying on Inkjet printables only.
    Has anyone printed on "regular" DVD's on an R200 and then tried to spray them? What is the harm (if any) in trying to print on regular media on an R200?
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    I would imagine (though I have no experience) that the ink has nothing to bind to and so, at best, will sit very precariously on the surface and, at worst, will look like water on plastic and just "roll around".

    Either way, I'd guess the ink is highly likely to be very unstable on the disc. Spraying may seal in a good print on the disc, assuming that's possible and that's what you get...

    You gotta ask yourself why inkjet printable discs were invented... They're there for a reason I'd say...
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    Originally Posted by daamon
    You gotta ask yourself why inkjet printable discs were invented... They're there for a reason I'd say...
    They are there to make a quick buck on the mentally unsound.

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    Bugger - That means they got me then!!!

    Mind you, the difference in cost between printable and normal was only about AU$1 or 2 at a computer fayre I went to on Sunday.
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    Disregard all my posts on how great Minwax waterbased polycrylic is. I just tried Pat Nimrock and it is amazing. Its my choice from now on.
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    Originally Posted by daamon


    Bugger - That means they got me then!!!

    Mind you, the difference in cost between printable and normal was only about AU$1 or 2 at a computer fayre I went to on Sunday.
    Thanks for the information - I asked because I have plenty of "regular" and wanted to know the likelihood of printing on them (and have it stay!). Guess I will use them as needed and replace with printable.
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    Originally Posted by bobaber
    Disregard all my posts on how great Minwax waterbased polycrylic is. I just tried Pat Nimrock and it is amazing. Its my choice from now on.
    Bobaber
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    Originally Posted by RickTheRed
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    I am watching you. Another post like this, and, Humm, I will do nothing
    The insane rarely if ever realize that they are in fact INSANE so I feel an obligation to point it out :P

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    Originally Posted by FulciLives
    The insane rarely if ever realize that they are in fact INSANE so I feel an obligation to point it out :P

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    Originally Posted by FulciLives
    The insane rarely if ever realize that they are in fact INSANE so I feel an obligation to point it out :P

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    Some people enjoy printing discs and others enjoy watching zombies gnaw on corpses. To each his own.
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  20. Anyone have problems with playback after spraying their disc? I use Pat Nimrocks matte finish. I am worried that after a while the disc will get messed up like with the sticky labels. The disc work fine right after I spray them and let them dry (ie. no spray on underside), but I am worried about long term issues. Anyone been spraying movies or PS2 games for a while and have some experiences?
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    Actually I express a similar concern as Yellowsugga. Wouldn't the spray melt & go gluggy & mess up the disk if it's playing in your player or burner? I know that disks get pretty hot there spinning around in my burner...

    Besides, how does spraying a disk make it look even CLOSE to a professionally screen-printed disk? It can't!

    I explored this when I put out a band's live DVD, it's just not worth it. I wouldn't even CONSIDER it for my DVD backups! Like the Zombie sez, it's kinda crazy!? Maybe "anal" is a better word for it?

    But each to their own! :P

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    this thread is nuts!!
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  23. Originally Posted by NamPla
    Actually I express a similar concern as Yellowsugga. Wouldn't the spray melt & go gluggy & mess up the disk if it's playing in your player or burner? I know that disks get pretty hot there spinning around in my burner...

    Besides, how does spraying a disk make it look even CLOSE to a professionally screen-printed disk? It can't!

    I explored this when I put out a band's live DVD, it's just not worth it. I wouldn't even CONSIDER it for my DVD backups! Like the Zombie sez, it's kinda crazy!? Maybe "anal" is a better word for it?

    But each to their own! :P

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    but buying a printer instead of just using a sharpie is not....
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  24. Just got an R200 and love the way it prints on inkjet printables. Looks great. I mostly print text information stuff and my logo in the disk directly from my home grown movie data base application.

    As long as you don't get water on the ink all is fine. The ink doesn't smear with normal handing. However, The ink is water soluable even after it dries.

    I have had one case of picking up a disk with some water on my hand from a cold glass and it smeared a letter on it.

    I tried the Nimrocks spray and it works. Warning make sure the spray is completely dry before playing it.

    I sprayed one, it felt dry, played it and it stuck to the hub in the player. ejected empty tray.. wtf... I was able to get it out with only a minor scratch on the disk from the tray scraping it.... how stupid can I be? don't answer that.

    Anyway as others say, I only use the spray for special disks given to others.

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  25. I have used Pat Nimrocks for a while. It is a good spray, but if it gets o nthe bottom of the disc, then it ruins the disc. Anyone know of any products that will remove any spray that got on the underside of the disc without ruinning the disc itself?
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    I do not think there is something out there that can remove the product without removing the protective layer.
    However, this other thread might help you to prevent reoccurence of this side effect of spraying.
    https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=239304

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  27. I used to be pretty anal about spraying discs. That was until yesterday. I had to do 20, my anal procedure would of taken a couple of days

    Instead, I took all my hub primtable coasters and laid them out. Put the discs I wanted to spray right on top. Sprayed 20 DVDs all at once with 3 very thin coats. not one bad DVD out of the bunch

    Remind you I used coaster of hub printabls
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  28. how come people feel the need to put an extra something under the disk they are spraying??

    Why is it not good enough to set the disk down on a paper towel or newspaper and spray them? will the spray crawl under it?
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    The spray migrates, putting them on paper works fine, if you can place a small weight on the center hub to press them down to the paper. It's amazing how small a gap the spray can penetrate!
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  30. Just curious if anyone tried this with an Epson 320? My discs look great without the spray and I am truly considering trying it.

    Also, I felt the need to reply to this post because I got alot of enjoyment out of reading it for the past 15 minutes, here's to hoping it comes alive again!!! LOL

    Any tips on using the PM Spray would also be greatly appreciated.

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