CVCD PAL to NTSC

[Asaki]

I figured I'd be brave and grab this video that was in CVCD format, having done a quick Google, I found out that's it's VBR, so you can fit more minutes on one CD, blah blah...anyway...it's in PAL format >_< My TV doesn't really appreciate that, and setting my DVD player to PAL mode doesn't seem to do much.

Anyway, I was trying to look it up, and the only info I could find is that it's similar to xVCD and KVCD format. I also found a bunch of information on CVD, which is one letter short, and I'm 75% certain it's not what I'm after.

Anyway, back to the point, is there a template I can download from somewhere? Or maybe some other format I should convert it to? I'm Googling around a bit, but so far, no luck...just a few PAL templates...

[lordsmurf]

The info was bad. KVCD is a low quality XVCD.

CVD is almost the same as SVCD, but uses Half-D1 resolution (valid for DVD).

Why templates? Just set your settings in an encoder.

Or better yet, leave it alone and get a DVD player that cooperates with more formats (like a Cyberhome 300).

[Asaki]

CVD is almost the same as SVCD, but uses Half-D1 resolution (valid for DVD).

I am aware of this. It's info on CVCD that I'm after, note the extra C.

Why templates? Just set your settings in an encoder.

Because I don't know what to set it to.

Or better yet, leave it alone and get a DVD player that cooperates with more formats (like a Cyberhome 300).

Reencoding the video would cost 99% less money.

[animatron]

The info was bad. KVCD is a low quality XVCD.

I wouldn't call these kvcds low quality
http://www.kvcd.net/downloads/payback.mpg.cut.59.mpg
http://www.kvcd.net/downloads/red-planet-sampler-high-quality-cq63.031.mpg

Ciao!

EDIT -> First post

[Asaki]

Actually, nevermind, I figured out how to get PAL to work on my DVD player...but now I've run into another problem...VCDEasy won't let me add chapters to this thing >_<

Number of possible chapter entry points: 1

[johns0]

Thats cause its low quality encoded non compliant encoded mpg.

[Asaki]

Thats cause its low encoded non compliant encoded mpg.

Any way to fix this?

[johns0]

Encode the source at 352x480/576 with cq at 80 with max number of frames in a GOP set at 18 for ntsc and 15 for pal.

[Asaki]

Will I still be able to fit ~140 minutes onto one CD? I'm sure I could find a way to trim off 20 minutes if I have to, but if I don't...

[johns0]

Lower the cq if the file size is too big,going to 70 should be the lowest limit.

[lordsmurf]

The info was bad. KVCD is a low quality XVCD.

I wouldn't call these kvcds low quality
http://www.kvcd.net/downloads/payback.mpg.cut.59.mpg
http://www.kvcd.net/downloads/red-planet-sampler-high-quality-cq63.031.mpg
Ciao!
EDIT -> First post

Capture something from a VHS tape, KVCD it, and then get back to me. KVCD is so "yesterday" and it's only use to date is to compress a DVD to a CD, and even then, because somebody was too cheap to buy an extra 20-cent CD-R, or too lazy to get off the couch 45 minutes through the movie to flip discs. With the advent of DVD Shrink (and other compressed-domain transcoders), and the falling costs of DVD-R media (35 cents for good discs!), KVCD has been rendered obsolete, impotent and otherwise worthless by today's standards.

Not to mention that is is nothing more than an "X" variant of VCD (xVCD), with propagandist marketing by its creator. It is not a format, it is nothing special. It is simply a wacked-out-of-spec VCD. To put it quite bluntly, you're making a VCD with the wrong settings. By some miracle, it turned up not looking to terrible (still NOT high quality), and was able to achieve a slightly smaller filesize.

CVCD and MVCD are the same thing. An xVCD with propaganda-like marketing.

As has been pointed out many times on this forum, you can use a good encoder like Procoder, and then tweak the settings if you need optimal compression ... AND... AND... stay within a spec of some sort.

[animatron]

KVCD has been rendered obsolete, impotent and otherwise worthless by today's standards.

Well, if it's impotent, then maybe it could use some "Viagra"
Thanks anyway, but I'm quite pleased with kVCD. And about the VHS issue, I do it all the time, but I convert to kDVD.
And I can't complain!
Obsolete?, well, I respect your opinion, but I see a total different picture

Good day all!

[SatStorm]

CVCD was a 2000 xVCD from Spain
It had VBR mpeg 1 at 352 x 288 / 240 with 128Kb Audio.
The site that supported CVCD, was www.vcdhelpsp.com . It use to be a good source for various - not always legal - things....

There is also a little background in that story:
At China, for a short while (1997-1998) some 999MB CDs appeared, with xVCD files (CBR 1024kb/s with 128kb audio) from a company I don't remember the name. Those where also called CVCDs (China Video CDs).
The story end up soon (since only "compatible" (call me flexible) VCD players use to play those), but somehow some discs end up to same manga cartoon collectors in Spain. Those ones became so exciting with that fact, that they actually create there own variation of CVCD (the VBR xVCD). It was a great hype for a while in the spanish speaking world. There are still some spanish users of those

MVCD comes from Germany and is about the same idea with CVCD. It became for a very short while (2001) a hype in German speaking countries, but soon "disapear" because German enthusiasts switch to SVCDs and DVDs. I don't know anyone use it today

For KVCD, visit www.kvcd.net

[DereX888]

I just *hate* with passion any non-standard junk.
Thx for nice explanation about those out of whack VCDs, Sat (I was just about to ask where/how are they f***d up comparing to standard VCDs ).

Smurf, go easy on those slowpokes still entrenched with VCDs and Xvariants... My grandpa still prefers his VCR and his tapes too, people at some age reach something I call "resistant age" and theres nothing in the world to change their mind after that (resistant as in resistant to anything newer beyond what they already know or had learnt about).
You wasted time on your explanation instead of i.e. help me solve still unsolved riddle of MMC not working in conjunction with Remote Desktop Sharing on