How much are you paying for petrol

[BJ_M]

doesn't UK use MON octane and US RON octane calculations ?

the numbers would be different ...

a lot of blended gaz around also (ethyl and other blends) .. i ve had bad luck wit some of these and avoid them ... some of the crap that gets mixed with diesel also is amazing, sometimes dangerous ..

SOME high octane gaz uses additives (to increase octane reading) which are not great, companies such has ford advise not to use premium in many of their engines ...

[rallynavvie]

Higher octane won't result in better performance unless the car is built for it. In fact putting higher octane fuel in a car not meant for it will result in worse performance as the fuel won't burn as completely with its higher flashpoint. My car in its stock form required 89 RON due to its 10:1 compression ratio. After the turbocharger was added (without changing the CR) it required 92. I added an engine computer to it so now only have maps tuned for 92/93 pump gas, but also made one for race gas when I take it to the track.

[Heywould3]

i really don't know why anybody in the usa could complain about the price they pay - as except in the middle east, it is the cheapest in the world pretty well ..

in canada - depends a LOT where you live ..

from 70-95 cents a liter (or more in Qu and far north)....

avg maybe 88 cents...

thats about $2.75 a gallon in US Money ..

i just cant remember if that is US gallons or British gallons ..

canada has the worlds 4th largest oil reserves --but prices here go up and down 50 - 60 cents a gallon a day sometimes ...

i agree that we here in the states pay the least for fuel.. BUt we also have the lowest min wage at what is it now $5.15 or something per hour worked.. and if you work less than 35 hours per week.. you get no vacation or medical.. and some places even full time you get no medical..

also we have another issue here and thats un-employment.. no i know thats common.. but you are only allowed 26weeks total and then only a max of 360$ per week.. on my last job i paid close to that in taxes alone per week.. to get the full amount you have to make twice that per week when you work. im an engineer so im fine and note hurting.. but my daughter is 16 now.. (AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH) oh sorry.. but her job is only min wage.. so @5.15 an hour at 30 hours thats only about $130.00 a week bring home.. try to pay for gas and insurence and fun on that lol..


Im not really upset at the price of gas as much as i am the reasoning they say its up..

Did anyone hear that the oil COs reported a profit 3times higher than they thought it would be a few weeks ago? they say it was because we "traveled more" yeah right.. they charged us $0.50 more per gallon.. bone heads..


P.S. i was lisening ot the radio the otehr day and this topic came up.. they said that gas is one of the cheapest liquids in hte states.. he said even milk cost 3.00 a gallon.. i was like WTF.. sure it is.. but i dont drink 3 gallons of milk on my way to work every day.. other wise i would be bummed at that too ..

[BJ_M]

oil COs reported a profit 3times higher than they thought

yea - through the roof on profits ......

[shoozleboy]

Im not really upset at the price of gas as much as i am the reasoning they say its up..

Did anyone hear that the oil COs reported a profit 3times higher than they thought it would be a few weeks ago? they say it was because we "traveled more" yeah right.. they charged us $0.50 more per gallon.. bone heads..


P.S. i was lisening ot the radio the otehr day and this topic came up.. they said that gas is one of the cheapest liquids in hte states.. he said even milk cost 3.00 a gallon.. i was like WTF.. sure it is.. but i dont drink 3 gallons of milk on my way to work every day.. other wise i would be bummed at that too ..

Agreed - I read an article in the paper the other day titled "Black Gold" - the story was about how the oil companies and people rich enough to invest in oil companies are raking in profits, hand over fist!!! They are actually getting richer at a faster pace than any other sector of business in history... I searched for the online article to link here, but it appears that it's not online - only in the print. (either that or my search capabilities are diminishing rapidly! )

Anyway, it's got me totally pissed off! I've been telling that to friends and family for some time that they say they need to raise prices because of "market conditions" and then they turn around and claim "record profits" 2 months later.....

I just called this AM for my home delivery of LP for the furnace.... $1.70 a US Gallon for CASH price (meaning I own my own LP tanks and just have to pay for the LP itself) The poor bastards who lease their tanks through the LP company are paying $2.39 a US Gallon - AND IT'S NOT EVEN COLD OUTSIDE YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Price jumped 30 cents a gallon in the last 2 months!!!!!!!

I'm so mad that I could rip someone's head off and shit down their neck!!!!

[LSchafroth]

$1.82 gallon in Central Iowa.

LS

[LSchafroth]

You guys run off very low-octane petrol. How do you get away with it?

92 is the highest I can get. 87 is normal with 90 or 91 being higher values. The chip in my truck wants 93 so I use octane boost.

LS

A year ago we were paying $1.43 gal, now it's around $1.83.

[Roundabout]

Lowest around here in southern Calif. today when I filled up was $2.31/Gal. for regular Unleaded.

I feel for the people up north that have to pay for heating oil, as the price of it has gone thru the roof recently, and may get worse before winter. Our house is heated by natural gas, so far, it's not too terrible. Since we have daytime temps in the mid - 70°F range most of the winter, our heating bill is usually no more than about $25 - 30 a month at that time.

[thecoalman]

$2.30 per gallon for diesel and I can go through 30 to 40 gallons in a day per truck.

But business is booming so **** it, I hope it goes up to $5.00 per gallon. Consider this, 1ton of anthracite coal($120+ local delivery) = 200 gallons of oil (about $400+ delivered)

[Anonymous321]

UK gallon is 1.20 U.S. gallons or 4.55 litres.

US gallon is .83 UK of a gallon or 3.79 litres.

In Germany you pay 2.20 € for 1 litres unleaded in average. That would be:
10,63 US$ for one US gallon, and
6,95 British Pounds for a UK gallon

Diesel is only a few Cents cheaper.

[Capmaster]

UK gallon is 1.20 U.S. gallons or 4.55 litres.

US gallon is .83 UK of a gallon or 3.79 litres.

In Germany you pay 2.20 € for 1 litres unleaded in average. That would be:
10,63 US$ for one US gallon, and
6,95 British Pounds for a UK gallon

Diesel is only a few Cents cheaper.

And how do bicycle sales do in Germany?

[Anonymous321]

Hehe
Well, every year during Tour de France season bikes are going well, but other than that I would say: average. We got used to those prices. Everybody hates the high prices, but almost everybody is still willing to pay.
Well, personally I got used to walk long distances, because puplic transportation is very expensive as well. So I walked to school 25 min., and after that I walked to work 35. min (and the same distance back, of course ). Saves a lot of money and keeps you healthy. *cough*

[Capmaster]

Hehe
Well, every year during Tour de France season bikes are going well, but other than that I would say: average. We got used to those prices. Everybody hates the high prices, but almost everybody is still willing to pay.
Well, personally I got used to walk long distances, because puplic transportation is very expensive as well. So I walked to school 25 min., and after that I walked to work 35. min (and the same distance back, of course ). Saves a lot of money and keeps you healthy. *cough*

I suspect the same would be true here too. During the '80s there was a huge push to get fuel economy up. And it worked. Cars were being advertised by their mileage, and bought for the same reason.

Now they advertise according to horsepower. Some new cars are being advertised as having 325, 340 or 350 Horsepower ...family cars

Fuel economy isn't even mentioned ...so people drive big 6,000 pound SUVs that get 8 miles to the gallon, while they chatter away on their cell phones. It's become a gluttonous, me-first society here.

I suspect that if the government places the same restrictions on cars that we had in the '80s, the automakers would go back to all they learned in the '80s and we'd be able to use a calendar instead of a fuel gauge in the cars ...just like it once was.

[Heywould3]

i use to spend a bunch of time in Germany a few years back.. back when they wtill used the German Mark as money. at the time it was like 1 USD was = to around 2 Marks.. so the exchange was good. about 2 to 1 well since the Euro the USD is only worth $0.80 per Euro. WTF they didnt do anything at all other than change their money.. they didnt compensate for the exchange rate when doing that so its not really fair.. and in France durring that time it was about 6 franks per 1 us dollar. there were some small provisions made there but not all of them for the exchange rate..

sorry to go off topic here but damn thats just not fair to either country.

The reason this makes a difference to me is that the exchange rate made travel to europe very very nice.. but now i wont even consider it becasue of the rate. and England still uses the british pound which is good for them seeing as how it was worth more than the USD to start with.

im going ot Mexico where its 12 to 1 exchange :P

[shoozleboy]

Hmmmmmm. speak of the devil, and he shall appear:

ChevronTexaco 3Q Profit Surges 62 Percent
(from ABC News)

SAN RAMON, Calif. (AP) - ChevronTexaco Corp.'s third-quarter profit improved by 62 percent as the oil giant continued to cash in the oil-price spikes that are squeezing household and business budgets.

The San Ramon-based company said Friday that it earned $3.2 billion, or $1.51 per share, during the three months ended in September. That compared with net income of $1.98 billion, or $1.01 per share, at the same time last year.

If not for profits generated by since-discontinued operations, ChevronTexaco said it would have earned $1.38 per share. That was a penny above the mean estimate among analysts surveyed by Thomson First Call.

ChevronTexaco's shares rose 18 cents to $52.65 during Friday's trading on the New York Stock Exchange. The company's stock has climbed by 22 percent so far this year.

"As long as the prices stay up, the earnings (of big oil companies) are going to stay up, but I expect things to start coming down soon," said industry analyst Fadel Gheit of Oppenheimer & Co. The recent market conditions helped ChevronTexaco boost its average price for crude U.S. crude oil and natural gas liquids to $36.26 per barrel, a 40 percent increase from last year.

The run-up has forced many households and businesses to cut corners as gasoline prices have climbed above $2 per gallon. In California - typically the nation's most expensive gasoline market - prices at the pump have gushed above $2.50 per gallon in some cities.

The rise in oil prices has been so rapid that ChevronTexaco hasn't been able to pass on the costs quickly enough to U.S. motorists, management told analysts during a Friday conference call.

The unusual situation turned U.S. gasoline sales into a financial drag on ChevronTexaco during the third quarter, even as other parts of its business benefited from higher oil prices.

The U.S division that markets ChevronTexaco gasoline earned $96 million, a 35 percent drop from $148 million at the same time last year. If not for several one-time items, ChevronTexaco said the division would have lost $50 million.

The California gasoline market - traditionally a company stronghold - represented a major drain on the division's performance, management said Friday. ChevronTexaco continued to lose money on gasoline sold in California during early October, but more recently has been breaking even, said John Watson, the company's chief financial officer.

Other factors contributing to the company's lower profit margins in U.S. refining included environmental compliance costs and the recent hurricanes that devastated Florida and other parts of the Southest.

Hurricane Ivan forced ChevronTexaco to shut down a Mississippi refinery, further eroding profits. The company expects the damages from Hurricane Ivan to lower fourth-quarter production by 50,000 to 60,000 barrels per day.

ChevronTexaco's gasoline profit margins were much better outside the United States. The company's international refining and gasoline marketing division earned $394 million, representing a nearly 12-fold improvement from $33 million last year.

The company makes the bulk of its money from the production of crude oil.

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On The Net:

http://www.chevrontexaco.com

Looks like those high prices you folks are paying overseas are helping the bottom line.... while the rising prices here are squeezing the household cash....

[BJ_M]

The company's international refining and gasoline marketing division earned $394 million, representing a nearly 12-fold improvement from $33 million last year.

that sums it up nicely .... i wonder if i have shares in them ?