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[Doramius]

Oil can't have a pH can it? Acid relies on water molecules to take on an extra proton from a donor (eg. HCl), becoming H30+ (Bronsted-Lowry theory) and producing the base of a salt (Cl- from HCl).

Oil can have pH. acid pH only goes from 0-7 (water being neutral at 7). alkalai goes from 7-14. Acid turns litmus red, alkali turns litmus blue. Oil can contain acidity or alkalinity. Gasoline is acidic and should be washed from your hands as it can cause burns or rashes.

Gasoline, kerosene, diesel, propane, natural gas, and others of the like have no natural color or odor. The same chemical is injected into all of them that reacts differently to each gas causing the distinct odor and unique color. Gasoline would look and smell similar to water or vinegar without it.

[Cobra]

I don't doubt that is can be acidic, just wondering how it works with no water.

[Doramius]

you don't need water to do litmus. you're determining acidity and alkalinity. you can use any chemical. If you own a pool, it may be more understanding why you think there has to be water. Chlorine can be chemical without water and it is heavily acidic.

[Cobra]

I'm not talking about the litmus test, I am talking about the actual physical chemistry behind an oil producing an acid with no water molecules present, which does not conform to Bronsted-Lowry. Very curious, is all.

(I study science, so no need to dumb anything down here)

[offline]

Everyone knows that Alaska is our largest state

No., Texans come here (Australia) on holidays and tell us
different.


Did you know that the film "Road Warrior" was called
"Mad Max" in Australia? Did you also know that
a "Road Warrior" in Australia means a geek who carries
a laptop around with him?

Did you know that the Pacific Ocean is the deepest
ocean on earth, the average depth being 30,000 feet.

[Doramius]

you beat me to my edit. You just need chemical. the most common base is water in which traditional litmus testing is used. But to determine levels in oil, you cannot add water as they will not mix. It's similar with alcohol, but I think alcohol is very closely related with water and it can mix better than oil can. Check with your teacher on that one. I'm sure he can show you the very experiment I'm talking about. It's a very simple trick that magicians used in early days to awe crowds.

[Cobra]

Chlorine is not acidic. It is highly reactive, and is corrosive but is not acidic.

[Doramius]

You're right on the chlorine part. Sorry about that. You're right it's very corrosive, but not acidic. if it was acidic, you would never be able to show a level above 0. I meant corrosive. my bad.

[Cobra]

I did a quick search on Google, and found that olive oil is acidic. I'll ask one of the guys at the lab tomorrow, see if they can shed some light on it. Maybe there is a mechanism at play here that I haven't learned of yet.

I thought compunds could only be acidic in the presence of water. You take a salt, hydrogen chloride for example, which is an ionically-bonded molecule. When placed in water, the polar molecules interefere with this bonding, and the two separate out and dissolve. The proton (hydrogen ion) then bonds to one of the lone pairs of electrons on the oxygen of any water molecule.

That is why I was thinking a non-polar liquid such as oil could not support the presence of hydrogen ions - the salt could not dissociate into the component proton and base as it is in a non-polar liquid.

Anyways, enough threadjacking my own thread - I'll find out tomorrow!

Back on track:

You cannot lick your own elbow. It is utterly impossible.

[Doramius]

The first incandescent light bulb ran on DC (Direct Current) electricity.

Thomas Edison voted in favor for using AC type of electricity to be used for the first electric chair instead of his developed DC type electricity. He was hoping that the association of death would knock away the popularity that Tesla's seemingly safer electricity was receiving and being more accepted by people.

Tesla had an idea about electricity that was funded by Rockefeller and several other large investors who pulled out because they found out his method could not be conventionally metered to bill people and Tesla wanted to allow people to use electricity for free.

[offline]

Did you know.

Fluoride was tested by the Nazis
and introduced as a calmative and chemical
restraint in water supplies.
It was used in at least 3 camps. The idea was
to "destroy the will" and subjucate the inmates.

Thanks to their research, modern physiatric drugs
and theories about senility have been developed.

[Doramius]

You cannot lick your own elbow. It is utterly impossible.

You can't lick the back of your own head or see yourself in the mirror with your eyes closed either. :P


Your foot is more closely related to a bear's paw, than a monkey's foot. You have no opposable digit on your foot.

[thayne]

Did you know.

Fluoride was tested by the Nazis
and introduced as a calmative and chemical
restraint in water supplies.
It was used in at least 3 camps. The idea was
to "destroy the will" and subjucate the inmates.

Thanks to their research, modern physiatric drugs
and theories about senility have been developed.

No wonder the government puts that shit in our water! No wonder I have a reverse osmosis water filter!

[thayne]

I did a quick search on Google, and found that olive oil is acidic. I'll ask one of the guys at the lab tomorrow, see if they can shed some light on it. Maybe there is a mechanism at play here that I haven't learned of yet.

I thought compunds could only be acidic in the presence of water. You take a salt, hydrogen chloride for example, which is an ionically-bonded molecule. When placed in water, the polar molecules interefere with this bonding, and the two separate out and dissolve. The proton (hydrogen ion) then bonds to one of the lone pairs of electrons on the oxygen of any water molecule.

That is why I was thinking a non-polar liquid such as oil could not support the presence of hydrogen ions - the salt could not dissociate into the component proton and base as it is in a non-polar liquid.

Anyways, enough threadjacking my own thread - I'll find out tomorrow!

Back on track:

You cannot lick your own elbow. It is utterly impossible.

Every liquid is either acidic, alkaline, or neutral. pure water being neutral...

[thayne]

Did you know that if you smoke weed before sex you will cum harder and longer?

[yoda313]

Hello,

Did you know that the most southern point in Canada is farther south than the most northern point in California.

Did you know that Windsor is the southernmost part of Canada??? And in Michigan we can drive South to get to Canada!

Kevin

[Heywould3]

did you know? two wrongs dont make a right? :P

[northcat_8]

Did you know that by the laws of physics it is impossible for a bumble bee to fly?

Did you know it is illegal to hunt camels in Arizona?

Did you know, that on the pyramids of egypt, the ratio of the slant height to the length of the base of the pyramid is Pi? And it's accurate to 5-7 decimal places.(I forget which)

[Craig Tucker]

Did you know that there are more people alive today than have ever died.

[Craig Tucker]

Did you know that the combined mass off all the ants on the planet exceeds that of all the humans.

[ViRaL1]

You cannot lick your own elbow. It is utterly impossible.

I bet Gene Simmons could, but that's bringing the arm across the body (sneaky but still possible i believe.)

[tgpo]

Did you know that the film "Road Warrior" was called
"Mad Max" in Australia?

It was called Mad Max here in the USA.

[thayne]

Did you know that the film "Road Warrior" was called
"Mad Max" in Australia?

It was called Mad Max here in the USA.

Umm, we had Mad Max & Road Warrior...

[Capmaster]

Did you know that the film "Road Warrior" was called
"Mad Max" in Australia?

It was called Mad Max here in the USA.

Umm, we had Mad Max & Road Warrior...

Ummm yeah. I was going to comment on that. Two different movies ...both with Mel. But I think one was actually dubbed because his aussie accent was so thick, and they had him dub it later with his own, less aussified accent (?maybe I'm not remembering that correctly). But they were two different movies here. Similar plots - post apocalyptic survival.

[tgpo]

Road Warrior was Mad Max 2

http://imdb.com/title/tt0082694/

From the trivia:

Renamed "The Road Warrior" for North American distribution because at the time, the original Mad Max had only been released there on a limited basis, so calling it Mad Max II would have confused viewers.

[Capmaster]

Road Warrior was Mad Max 2

http://imdb.com/title/tt0082694/

From the trivia:

Renamed "The Road Warrior" for North American distribution because at the time, the original Mad Max had only been released there on a limited basis, so calling it Mad Max II would have confused viewers.

I've got Beyond Thunderdome as Mad Max 2 and Road Warrior as Mad Max 3 in my collection

[ViRaL1]

If you think that's confusing, how about First Blood, Rambo, and Rambo III ?

[Faustus]

Road Warrior was Mad Max 2

http://imdb.com/title/tt0082694/

From the trivia:

Renamed "The Road Warrior" for North American distribution because at the time, the original Mad Max had only been released there on a limited basis, so calling it Mad Max II would have confused viewers.

I've got Beyond Thunderdome as Mad Max 2 and Road Warrior as Mad Max 3 in my collection

Woah! thats wrong for sure. Thunderdome was the 3rd movie.

[thayne]

I have all three. It's Mad Max, Road Warrior, and Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome. In that order.

[sacajaweeda]

did you know? two wrongs dont make a right? :P

Maybe not, but three lefts damn sure do.