Ashlee Simpson Exposes Herself !!

[jimmalenko]

In which way does the "carpet" NOT match the "drapes"?????

Having them not match has always bothered me.
I don't really know why. Just one of those things.

It's never really bothered me.....

I mean, do you look at the mantlepiece while you're stoking the fire ?

What about if there's no carpet ?

[ChrisX]

Another phony "live" performance on a show with "Live" in its title. :P

This is right and why is Ashlee Simpson on if she can't sing and I think Elton John was right.

He was complaining of cheating pop stars not really singing songs and miming with audio recordings.

I reckon lip-synching should be banned and I don't care if Britney Spears is doing it. If she is proven to perform lip-synching then she's cheating her fans.

Then if this is the case, she's a bitch just as bad as Madonna.

‘lip-synching’ is just as bad as TV stations claiming 'Live' on some of our shows in Sydney such as “Rove Live” and our football.

There is a discussion on another forum about this; as 'Live' and having doubts as really 'Live'.

I seem to think that the so called ‘live shows or live events’ are really a delay of some seconds or further delay to allow for ads on TV.

There should be a crackdown on the cheating on so called ‘live’ performance and so called ‘live’ TV shows and TV sports events.

If not live, they must remove the label ‘live’ from its title or they are cheating the viewers.

[adam]

Ok can someone clarify something for me?

The song they are playing in that clip, is that the same song she sang the first time? Did the band switch to that song after the guide track mixup? Or did they play the correct song despite the mixup? If its the latter then that is fucked up because she specifically blames the band when they had nothing to do with it... unless she considers the guy who hits PLAY as part of the band...which wouldn't suprise me.

Its too bad there wasn't an extra mic on the stage. One of the guitarists could have sung it himself and I'm sure it would have sounded better then her version.

I can't stand these poser pop stars. Their bands are usually made up of studio musicians who are extremely talented, but now they are stuck playing backup for a karoake singer and being told what clothes to wear and how to style their hair. POP used to mean popular, as in for the masses. Now its only made for pre-teens. It really makes me miss the days when Michael Jackson was POPular, and I'm not being sarcastic. His early stuff was brilliant.

[pacmania_2001]

“Rove Live”

Unfunniest show on TV. Did you see how much he bombed at the ARIA Awards as host?

The song they are playing in that clip, is that the same song she sang the first time? Did the band switch to that song after the guide track mixup? Or did they play the correct song despite the mixup? If its the latter then that is fucked up because she specifically blames the band when they had nothing to do with it... unless she considers the guy who hits PLAY as part of the band...which wouldn't suprise me.

It's too hard to tell because initially the drums is the only live instrument playing. Only after the band has looked at each other do they decide to go ahead with the earlier song.

If I had to blame anyone I would blame the person in charge of technical at SNL and Ashlee Simpson herself. She should have stayed on stage and just sung the old song again.

[hech54]

Here is the latest bullshit update:

Simpson Dad Blames Acid Reflux for Gaffe

2 hours, 33 minutes ago Entertainment - AP Music


By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer

NEW YORK - If Ashlee Simpson's stomach was upset Saturday night, imagine how she's feeling now. The 19-year-old singer was busted for a "Saturday Night Live" lip-synch gone awry. Her manager-father said Monday his daughter used the extra help because acid reflux disease had made her voice hoarse

"Just like any artist in America, she has a backing track that she pushes so you don't have to hear her croak through a song on national television," Joe Simpson told Ryan Seacrest on Los Angeles radio station KIIS-FM. "No one wants to hear that."


He insisted it would be Ashlee's live voice alone during her appearance on NBC's "Radio Music Awards" Monday night.


And he said she's never used the extra help onstage before.


"The whole situation was a bummer," Ashlee Simpson said in an interview on MTV's "Total Request Live."


Nope....I'll let you decide and leave my comments out...

[gll99]

For televised shows, I wonder if the local audience hears a mixed "live" and recorded voice but the tv audience gets only the pre-recorded voice. It would make sense because that would provide the best mechanically enhanced sound to the largest audience for vocally challenged "artists".

[hech54]

Blaming the band is very easy actually. If she is not "on tour" doing live shows....she has no band. Alot of the time the band onstage aren't even musicians at all....just struggling actors on call. Actors in places like NY and LA even take jobs as waiters at record industry functions and movie studio functions just to be seen by industry people.

The drums are actually the hardest thing to "fake" onstage. The drums they use are real but they are so packed full of pillows and other sound deadening material they can barely be heard by the studio audience.
Often after the song is over...you can still hear the drummer banging away back there.

What it boils down to is this.....if the song sounds EXACTLY like the one you hear on the radio...it is being lip synced. If the end of the song "fades" exactly like the record....it is being lip synced....period.

Alot of smart record producers will make an instrumental version of a song that they know is going to be a "single" off of the CD so the artist can at least "sing" live and hire faces to be the band. But that is not always easy. Keeping the vocals isolated from the rest of the instruments during the entire recording process is very time consuming and can add up to alot of expensive studio time.

Here in Europe....lip syncing on TV is VERY VERY common....it is almost standard practice. Seeing a band or singer actually performing live on a TV show is extremely rare. There are a couple of shows here in Germany that really try to have their musical guests actually perform LIVE. Stefan Raab's show TV TOTAL is one of them....and Wetten Das is another. The rest of the evening's musical shows are packed FULL of nothing but German "Schlager" music....with audiences full of old folks who do NOT know the difference between live and lip-synced. But even the shows that showcase hits from the 70's and maybe even the 80's (radio play - top 40 stuff) have a wide range of audience ages...all watching people lip sync to a 20 year old song....knowing full well what is going on....that is VERY difficult to watch. I even saw The Scorpions lip syncing to Winds Of Change....and they were there to promote their new European Tour.

There are also bands that have extra musicians....keyboard and guitar players mostly....behind the scenes at a LIVE concert that you may have attended. Though not TOO common....it happens more often than you think. Most bands like Genesis for example....don't hide their extra musicians but quite a few do.
Green Day for example....they were here in Germany taping a short TV concert that aired recently....tucked away next to the stage mixing board was a keyboard player....well at least his hands were there because all you saw of him was his hands and his keyboard.

One very popular band that also fakes ALOT of af their live music is Brooks and Dunn. There is an armada of guitar players back there(at least two extras) out of the spotlight(though still on the stage) playing the guitar parts while Kix Brooks (the Milli Vanilli of guitar players) stands in the spotlight like he is playing the guitar solo....me being a guitar player....that is THE most offensive thing I have ever seen.

There was a Tribute To Les Paul show that aired some years ago. All of the famous Les Paul guitar players told stories of their favorite Les Paul guitar and all of them played a little something on their favorite Les Paul guitar.....except ONE person....Kix Brooks. I'm not sure exactly what he is doing in their music videos or on stage but I know what he is NOT doing....and that is playing what I am hearing in the song like he would have you believe. THAT kind of thing needs to be exposed also....even more so than singers lip syncing...just because singers lip syncing is almost commonplace now.

OK...rant over....thanks for listening.....

[DereX888]

It all boils down t what is acceptable for each one of us.
Who cares what are they singing or claim to be singing? I can always look at hot piece of ass with pleasure (just press Mute button in case of Britneys, Ashlees etc idiots, and play your fav. music )

[Jester700]

It all boils down t what is acceptable for each one of us.
Who cares what are they singing or claim to be singing? I can always look at hot piece of ass with pleasure (just press Mute button in case of Britneys, Ashlees etc idiots, and play your fav. music )

That's why people watch pr0n while listening to Dream Theater, bro... 8)

[Jester700]

Alot of smart record producers will make an instrumental version of a song that they know is going to be a "single" off of the CD so the artist can at least "sing" live and hire faces to be the band. But that is not always easy. Keeping the vocals isolated from the rest of the instruments during the entire recording process is very time consuming and can add up to alot of expensive studio time.

Good post, but I didn't get this bit. Nowadays it is SIMPLE to do this. Vocals are on their own tracks and all you have to do is remix the tune without bringing up the vox. In fact, now with widespread automation and use of DAWs, you don't even have to worry about the mix being slightly different - it will be the SAME - just run it again but mute the vox.

And for a major label artist, it would be inexcusable to not even be able to do this a year after the final mix. There should be a hard disk somewhere with the project data on it that can be restored in 15 minutes. Unless we're talking about a "purist analog geek" production team that only does realtime mixes from 2" analog tape - but those cats don't usually do Ashlee Simpson type gigs...

[tgpo]

From the imdb.com:

The blunder has been all the more embarrassing for Simpson, because she recently expressed her disapproval of lip-syncing in an interview with Lucky magazine, explaining, "I'm totally against it and offended by it. I'm going to let my real talent show, not just stand there and dance around. Personally, I'd never lip- sync. It's just not me."

[hech54]

Alot of smart record producers will make an instrumental version of a song that they know is going to be a "single" off of the CD so the artist can at least "sing" live and hire faces to be the band. But that is not always easy. Keeping the vocals isolated from the rest of the instruments during the entire recording process is very time consuming and can add up to alot of expensive studio time.

Good post, but I didn't get this bit. Nowadays it is SIMPLE to do this. Vocals are on their own tracks and all you have to do is remix the tune without bringing up the vox. In fact, now with widespread automation and use of DAWs, you don't even have to worry about the mix being slightly different - it will be the SAME - just run it again but mute the vox.

And for a major label artist, it would be inexcusable to not even be able to do this a year after the final mix. There should be a hard disk somewhere with the project data on it that can be restored in 15 minutes. Unless we're talking about a "purist analog geek" production team that only does realtime mixes from 2" analog tape - but those cats don't usually do Ashlee Simpson type gigs...

I understand your point....and my point was not made well using that scenario. Depending on how much money and time a new artist is given....bouncing and piggy-backing tracks is sometimes the only way to accomplish what needs to be done to satisfy whoever is paying for the studio time....which in most cases for new artists....are not a state of the art facilities we all hear of. Some of them are real shitholes...even today.
You'd be surprised how often new artists' producers hear "How many tracks and how much time do you need?"
I'm sure....given her sister's name alone....Ashlee wasn't on "tape" but you never know. Some studios don't even have Tascam DA-88's yet...

[JohnnyCNote]

Now she's trying to blame it on acid reflux! Maybe she should start doing ads for Prilosec.....

[DereX888]

Who cares?
I'm only interested in what ones like her have something to say only when they announce they'll strip on Playboy channel, or better yet - if someone 'steals' their home sex video LOL.

[makntraks]

Her swan song....

http://www.ashleesimpsonmusic.com/community/Topic.asp?assetid=958464&artistname=Ashlee...&title=Goodbye

makntraks

p.s. I just report it as I find it....

[JohnnyCNote]

I'd never even heard of her before this mess.

When I had my band in San Francisco, the subject of using prerecorded material came up from time to time. Some friends used it in their band, but I didn't see where it really helped. I should add this wasn't vocals, but music tracks.

We had a sound guy for a while who was really into this sort of thing. He kept on talking it up, but I would never agree to it. I play guitar and was known for getting a really broad range of sounds form my set-up. If it became known we were using recorded material, it would have destroyed my credibility as a guitar player. It was important to me for people to know that the sounds they were hearing were ones I was creating on the spot.

The SNL thing comes about from bands who depend to heavily on the studio. How many times have you heard people complain that a band in person didn't sound at all like the CD? One has to find a balance between the recorded sound and the live sound. Recorded music loses a lot of the impact of the live sound, so one must find ways to enhance the recording without compromising the song to the point where it's unrecognizable live.

Anyway, that was my philosophy.....

[adam]

Her swan song....

http://www.ashleesimpsonmusic.com/community/Topic.asp?assetid=958464&artistname=Ashlee...&title=Goodbye

makntraks

p.s. I just report it as I find it....

That's funny. Its obviously fake though, the hacker tagged the msg. Look...

Ashlee Simpson
(irc.austnet.org #xvid)

[BJ_M]

click on her profile

http://www.ashleesimpsonmusic.com/summary.asp?SelectedUserId=4346307&artistid=488

totaly owned (ne. hackored)

[DereX888]

She looked better as a blonde

[ChrisX]

I'd never even heard of her before this mess.

Ashlee Simpson was a nobody before this mess and what a singer trying to perform without her voice.

She is nothing to me.

[adam]

http://www.emallonline.com/jared/ashlee_vanillee.wmv

Here's a better look at her dance moves.

[DereX888]

shite, I thought she's Jessica Simpson...
LOL, please disregards all my previous comments, ehh
(kids - thats what ya get when you watch to much pr0n and Nike it too )

[yoda313]

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[yoda313]

Hello,

Well Detroit gets Ashlee Simpson at our Thanksgiving parade - AREN'T WE LUCKY???

Kevin

---blame it on the rain----- OOps.. wrong lipsyncher! ---

[DereX888]

Hello,

Well Detroit gets Ashlee Simpson at our Thanksgiving parade - AREN'T WE LUCKY???

Only if she strips during parade!

[bazooka]

Hello,

Well Detroit gets Ashlee Simpson at our Thanksgiving parade - AREN'T WE LUCKY???

Only if she strips during parade!

Nothing to see.