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    Originally Posted by BJ_M
    i agree also -- i am just thinking of the millions of people that just go to office depot or walmart and by disks -- a lot of them for their offices


    think of people who buy computers ...


    or maybe its just me -- thinking the average consumer is pretty naive ..
    Oh, I agree with you too.

    Most people walk into a store, say "Me want 'puter" and get the clueless nerd salesman to take them for all they can.

    Then you get the online shoppers, asking for the bus speed, CPU core, etc. Then hunt deals and coupons for the best price.

    Media codes in stores would be wasted on the stupid. Media codes for online media wholesalers would be catering to their intelligent audience.
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    Now we just have to figure out how to get the online retailers to supply that information. For now, before I order any media, I'll email the supplier and request the media code, quality, and save the email incase I have problems.
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    blankmedia.ca in canada already does this
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    another general question about online retailers:
    why (most of them) don't offer free shipping on certain orders like alot of other online retailers in different fields?
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    nothing is free - it is in the price one way or another
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  6. humm, well this was an entertaining thread. After thoroughly reading the Ritek press release and the facts it's pretty much common sense shop4tech isn't selling fake Ritek discs, especially not at a few bucks cheaper then store X. The article stated some Hong Kong manufacturers, didn't say anything about who is purchasing from those manufacturers and didn't even specify if the problem exists in the United States. It may just be an Asia issue.

    One thing I do find peculiar is how noone seemed to mention the point stated that other online sites are selling the exact same media one way or another. It's been said many times on this forum alone by many members that these online sites use the same vendors so if one site is selling "fake' media then so are all of em or at least most of em'. IMHO this isn't fake media b/c it isn't listed as being TY like the other poster said. I've purchased from shop4tech and haven't had any issues to date, i've also used the New Generation Matrix discs and haven't had any problems with them either. I don't feel like I got duped because I wasn't told I was getting Taiyo Yudens.

    And I definitely agree with BJ_M about the majority of consumers having no clue about media codes, etc. It probalby is 95%, maybe even higher. When you consider that most people purchase from major retailers, that statistic seems very accurate. The real stat would be what percentage of "online" shoppers have a clue about Media codes, etc, and I'd even bet most of them have no idea either. If you aren't a memeber of a forum such as this, then chances are you'd have no clue. So the entire phoney media thing altogether is just jibber jabber and makes very little sense when it isn't gonna benefit ANY of these online sites who are all selling the same media.
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  7. And I definitely agree with BJ_M about the majority of consumers having no clue about media codes, etc. It probalby is 95%, maybe even higher. When you consider that most people purchase from major retailers, that statistic seems very accurate. The real stat would be what percentage of "online" shoppers have a clue about Media codes, etc, and I'd even bet most of them have no idea either. If you aren't a memeber of a forum such as this, then chances are you'd have no clue. So the entire phoney media thing altogether is just jibber jabber and makes very little sense when it isn't gonna benefit ANY of these online sites who are all selling the same media.
    I think that most of consumers know little bit about media codes. And that is the problem. If the site will publish the media code, then it should be REAL not fake! So why dosen't they tell customers that those discs are not TY etc?
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    So did anyone make any sense if the Ritek media from shop4tech is bad?

    I've opened only one of the 4 25pks I got, and no luck. My drive won't read the discs correctly.

    Nero even attempts to burn, but then the discs won't verify. Turns out the discs are still blank or at least that's what I can tell...

    shop4tech hasn't returned my email yet, although it's been less than 24hrs.


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  9. What Steve said in page one.

    I also bought a lot from shop4tech and haven't had a problem.

    A little off topic, I know a lot of people here use a lot of DVDs for their business etc. I wonder if with the amount I'm using right now, about 500+ a Week, would I be able to buy them wholesale at the same suppliers that those online stores are getting their media from? and which wholesalers if anyone knows? thanks
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    I just wanted to follow up on my previous post about problems with the media I received from shop4tech. A "good" post to offset some of the negative posts...

    The ritek g04 discs wouldn't burn well on my liteon 451S drive. I spoke with derek @shop4tech and he helped me out. He even sent me some different replacement discs free of charge for me to test out.

    It took lots of testing on my part, but I think I can point the guilty finger at my liteon burner. My NEC 2500A had no problems with any of these discs. The drive wouldn't burn the ritek g04 discs at 4x without problem, the burnt discs wouldn't mount on any PC. But discs burned at 2x work fine. Like the liteon 415S has a bad burn method for this media type. (This wouldn't be a surprise to me!) This liteon drive seem to have a tough time with -R media.

    I was even concerned about a thin "ring" on the recordable side of the discs. I sent a picture to derek and he gave me great information that this seems to be quite common in the ritek discs and other disc manufactured at the same plant.
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    It took lots of testing on my part, but I think I can point the guilty finger at my liteon burner. My NEC 2500A had no problems with any of these discs. The drive wouldn't burn the ritek g04 discs at 4x without problem, the burnt discs wouldn't mount on any PC. But discs burned at 2x work fine. Like the liteon 415S has a bad burn method for this media type. (This wouldn't be a surprise to me!) This liteon drive seem to have a tough time with -R media.
    It's known that LITEON DVD BURNERS prefer DVD+R media than DVD-R.
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