JLWsales Epson R200 CIS Review

[zanos]

I just installed the cis system after months of it just sitting on my shelf and when I printed something globs of ink started pouring out on the paper. Did I buy a fountain or is there someway to easily fix this? If not I may have to contact jlwsales for a replacement.

[Talus]

Zanos, need some more info. How did you set it up? Are the ink reservoirs sitting level next to the printer? I know that if they're slightly raised, ink can flood the printer.

[Rippermac]

Near co-op city rippermac? My Dad lives on Bostonroad near there....Got a CIS Rippermac? Is it a JLWSALES CIS? GOT MILK?

Went to High School in co-op city..that pizza joint was/is my fav...don't have CIS...almost bought one then I saw some people were having probs...I only use mine to print DVD's so I don't use that much ink...the main reason I backed of was the fact that I may go 3 or 4 days without printing and it seems thats when probs started popping up...I decided to go with megatoner.com carts which were/are dirt cheap I think...ordered them Sunday got them Wednesday...shocked the heck outta me how fast they got here...

[macrovision]

Ripper, I use a printonadime kit...never had clogging problems...I think it loves me...It's good to me and I print about 50 full face color DVD's a week and just to be sure I do a nozzle check once or twice a day....without a computer!!! all you have to do is hold down the paper button(middle button) and press the power button ...release the power and continue to hold the paper button down until the power light starts flashing...It will do an ordinary start-up and when it finishes it will print a nozzle check page...I've never had a bad nozzle check and I do this daliy as I stated just to be on the safe side because I've heard about clogged nozzles from people that don't use a CIS kit...It's something that Epson printers seem to do if not used regularly...and the print something every couple of days suggestion was given by an Epson Technician

[zanos]

Zanos, need some more info. How did you set it up? Are the ink reservoirs sitting level next to the printer? I know that if they're slightly raised, ink can flood the printer.

Yeah that's what I figured. One of my carts is still clogged though so I may need to ask for a replacement.

[ultraman36]

Hey have you all had a chance to look at the New tanks from printonadime.com? they are being sold on ebay what do you think

[ultraman36]

Hey i just installed my cis from Jlw sales how do i adjust the colors im posting 2 pictures the words unders special feature should be white like but when i print it out its more green

[ultraman36]

ok my pictures arent uploading whats going on. Hopefully you can see it

ok first photo is what the file should look like the second is a scanned copy of what i printed with the Jlwsales cis. See how its a little green any hint on how to adjust ie settings?

[macrovision]

Ultraman, Goto the printer properties menu,select advanced at the bottom of the page goto the right side of the advanced menu and adjust the colors yourself....I do these all the time and If I remember correctly this label is partically holographic...If that's the case you might be better off adjusting the settings for the scanner

[ultraman36]

I was trying to see if somene hap played with the setting and found something they like instead of the trial and error approach
ps mac did you check out the new tanks from printonadime what do you think

[macrovision]

Ultraman, I've seen the printonadime tanks and I wish I hadda waited but I've also seen another that is quite interesting...here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51310&item=6760875806&rd=1 ....p.s. It also autoresets like the printonadime kits ( to 90%) and it's 110ml tanks are bigger not to mention the fact that it looks like the printonadime tanks...for $65 I think it's a steal but I would be concearned about the quality of the ink included in it....I like the dura-bright quality that printonadime provides.

[dmagic1]

That does look pretty good.

I'm getting tire of my JLW unit clogging. I have problems with 3 out of my 6 carts now. Fixing this thing is beginning to be more trouble than refilling carts was.

I might get a different cis when the bulk ink I have is almost gone.

[macrovision]

dmajic, I still like printonadime cis but the kit I posted the link to looks very much the same...It's your choice...I know the ink isn't the same...they posted that it's " Water-Based Dye Ink " shouldda been " Dura-Bright quality ink"

[ultraman36]

Mac when you say durabrite ink from printonadime are you saying quality wise(looks when printing ) or do you mean pigmented inks ie smudge resistant?

[macrovision]

When I say dura-Bright I'm talking about looks after printing...The cheap ink looks regular...that's O.K. for DVD's but if you want good quality in photos then Dura-Bright looks better!

[ultraman36]

cool im going to order the printonadime inks and cis 100ml kit

[macrovision]

You'll see what I mean when you get your printonadime kit....It doesn't suck like the JLWSALES cis kit....I haven't had a problem since I bought it and I've done about 100 full face, color DVD's.

[bidefordboy]

Well, after dumping my JWLSales kit I have decided to go with this system (as mentioned by macrovision) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51310&item=6760875806&rd=1
It has the 110ml tanks & 'reset to 90%' chips.
Ordered it today, will let you guy's know how I get on.

I suppose we could call it the 'TOPPYJESS' kit

[soundforbjt]

Well, after dumping my JWLSales kit I have decided to go with this system (as mentioned by macrovision) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51310&item=6760875806&rd=1
It has the 110ml tanks & 'reset to 90%' chips.
Ordered it today, will let you guy's know how I get on.

I suppose we could call it the 'TOPPYJESS' kit

From looking at the pictures of the installed system, it doesn't look like you can close the top cover on the printer.

[macrovision]

The top cover will close but since there's tubes coming out of the printer to the cis kit the routing clip is slightly raised and this keeps the top from pinching the tubes which will stop proper ink flow

[bidefordboy]

As this thread was started for the JWLSales cis, I thought it would be a good idea to start a new thread for cis sytems in general. Let's try and find out about all the various systems & get reviews from actual users.
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=265796

[Bodyslide]

Good Idea bidefordboy... I'm thinking about getting the new CIS from TOPPYJESS.

[macrovision]

Bidefordboy....I think that your 100% right with your suggestion but also I think that the reviews about JLWSALES CIS KITS need to be posted so when people inquire about our experience with it they can make an better judgement on what CIS to buy. Thanks!

[OSU]

I finally got my JWLSales CIS after returning the first one due to one of the tanks leaking all over the package and turning the whole unit yellow. With assistance from the great pictures posted on page 21 of this thread I got everything connected to my R300 with very little problem. The only issue was where to secure the tubes on the right side of the printer. With the control panel and the LCD it's a little tricky compared to an R200. Once everything was together, I ran the printer through about 5 cycles of head cleaning and test before I got a test page that was 95% perfect and all the air was clear of the hoses.

Now to the printing... From what I can tell the colors were a spot on match from the Epson's that shipped with the printer (only had the printer for about 1 month). Saturation and color matching was very good. I had printer about 20 reference pictures to compare with the JWLSales CIS unit and can really see no difference in quality.

Now to the bad... It appears that at least two of the cartridges are leaking on the roller mechanism. This manifests itself by streaking the backside of the paper with a purple shade of ink. I have thoroughly cleaned the rollers that seem to be transferring the ink to the back of the paper, but the issue persists. From reading some of the other posts it would appear that this may be a result of the cartridges themselves being made of inferior parts. Is there any way to determine definitively the cause of the leakage to remediate this?

[ultraman36]

Hey i just got 2 files from jlwsale. They are suppose ti help with the color being off(profiles) does anyone know what to do with them?

[nickelzy]

After spending a lot of time following this thread (as well as adding to it), I decided to add my 2 cents for what it's worth. Lately there has been a lot of negative comments regarding the JLW Sales CIS system. Ironically, if you followed this thread from the very beginning, it's followed a life of everyone loving the system and only positive reports to periodic problems to now a lot of negative comments. Let me just make it painfully obvious, I could care less what is written about the system (just because I own it doesn't mean that I am loyal to it). I also understand why some of you, particularly Mac, thinks very little of the system. However, a couple of things that I think should be kept in perspective for new readers trying to figure out which CIS system to buy:

1. Has the printonadime system really been fairly tested before we unanimously praise it? Remember, everyone on this forum (in the beginning) absolutely LOVED their JLW Sales CIS system, but now look. My point is that just as time has convinced some that the JLW Sales CIS is not a very good system, a prospective buyer should proceed cautiously with any other system which hasn't had ample time to test.

2. Although I know about the construction of the system (as Mac has pointed out on numerous occasions) and that many people are having problems, there are probably twice as many that aren't having any issues. Usually in the case of products, people are MUCH more likely to complain or seek help for problems with their product than people leaving lots of posts about their product still functioning well. Take me for instance, my JLW Sales kit has been working like a champ for about 2 1/2 months now without any problems, but it wasn't until now that I finally decided to leave a post. My point is that one needs to keep all of this in perspective; not everyone who bought a JLW Sales CIS system is having problems. It is my best guess that there are probably more people (like me) who have the system and are having success with it than people who are having problems.

Now with that all being stated, I don't want to paint the picture that you ought to go out and buy a JLW Sales CIS system. In fact, if mine fails me tomorrow, I'll probably consider buying elsewhere (or at least I'll go back to the drawing board and investigate systems). My main point for this post is that many of us need to keep in mind that before we give absolute praise to other systems, let's proceed cautiously and give it some time first.

My 2 cents for what it's worth...

[OSU]

nickelzy... I can respect that viewpoint, however I think that the most recent comments on the JLWSales CIS system only serve to give us more information about the unit. I don't read into the bashing too much because in the end I am only interested in the technical performance of the device and the longevity. If nothing else the comments balance out the overly-zealous posts at the beginning of the thread that caused many of us to rush out and purchase the unit in the first place.

The specific issues that I am having are unacceptable to me (and they would be to most other consumers that just forked out $103 for this unit). Some will look at that cost as a throwaway because they are still ahead of the game (cost wise on cartridges replacements) if they have to get another CIS. I would disagree, since the purpose of these units is to be a long term solution to what is normally a short term recurring problem. If they are due to an inherent flaw in the design of the unit, I would wish for others to know that point and understand the possible risks associated with purchasing this device.

I agree on the fact that it is too soon to determine what, if any, flaws are inherent in the Printonadime CIS. I guess we will see how that holds up over time. If someone like Mac has technical data to present regarding the quality of the parts in use for the JLWSales CIS system, I would welcome that input as well as others that have opposing technical data. I think it only adds to the discussion here.

[bidefordboy]

@nickelzy

Well said, I agree with you 100%.
I was one of the first owners of the JWLSales system & sang it's praises. To be honest there may only be half a dozen or so of us that have had problems with the system, all the rest may be working fine. But if I get problems with any item I am going to let everyone know about it, so that future purchasers are going to have more information to consider.
That was the reason I started the new thread https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=265796 , so that we can get as much information as we can on the new systems now available. This will give new users more choice & hopefully avoid the problems we have had.

[nickelzy]

bidefordboy and osu,

I agree with both of you in that you ought to post your experiences, both good and bad, and I would hope anyone would do so that we can learn from others (that's the whole point of a forum). My main point in my latest post wasn't to stifle discussion or to try and encourage people not to post negative comments, it was instead just trying to let people new to this thread understand that right now I don't think any of us know for certain what CIS system is the best until we give it ample time. I hope that there is a system that works better and provides very little problems, whether that be printonadime or any other system. However, if you read the last couple of pages of this thread, it just reminds me a lot of what people were writing about the JLW Sales system when it first came out. Therefore, in my opinion (again, it's only my 2 cents), I think before some of us give tremendous praise for a system, lets give it a little time before claiming it to be better than another system.

By the way, Bidefordboy, I'm glad you started your latest thread about the best CIS systems. I will continue to follow that from time to time so that if my JLW Sales CIS does end up failing me, I'll be educated to make a decision whether to switch at that time. However, for now, fortunately my CIS system is working like it should and isn't giving me any problems. I'll certainly let you all know if things change, but for now, I'm happy with my purchase.

[dmagic1]

I wish I could easily replace all the carts and chips. By the time you buy those you might as well buy a whole new system.