Where is the limitiation in SVCD? Can i mimick a DVD on CD ?

[sybariten]

Here's something that i would like to have explained, technically:

I'm gonna make a DVD with three short films (maybe 5 mins totally) to be projected at a cinema theatre during a festival. At the moment i am looking to find a DVD burner as i only have a CD burner myself.
Then it struck me, that perhaps i could make a VCD or SVCD instead. Its a fairly modern Panasonic standaolne DVD player thats gonna be playing, so it should accept CDs.

You see, the way i see it an SVCD is just a "downgraded version" of a DVD video. Downgraded because the medium (CD) fits less data than a DVD. And the downgrading is done in lowering bitrate (and perhaps resolution?)
But, this is just how i see it. I may be thinking in the wrong direction.

I figure, if i only have 5 minutes of video, i should be able to make something that is formatted just like a DVD, but burned onto a CD. Like an SVCD in 720 pxl resolution.
Am i tricking myself here? Or could this be done?

cheers[/b]

[chicola]

Try this (if your player support it):

https://www.videohelp.com/minidvd.htm

[Shocker Milwaukee]

You'll probably need to make an SVCD. Here is the list of Panny's that'll play miniDVD (DVD on CD).

https://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers.php?DVDname=Panasonic&minidvd=1&Search=Search&coun...y=Name&hits=25

Here's the list of Panny's that'll play SVCD.

https://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers.php?DVDname=Panasonic&Submit=Search&svcd=1&Search=...y=Name&hits=25

[Garibaldi]

You can actually burn VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders onto a CD, as long as the vobs are under 700 MB. The only problem is having a good enough dvd player to recognize it. I know computers will recognize it as a dvd automatically but I'm not sure about all dvd players. This way you could keep your dvd bitrate quality. Also, there are ways to reduce the size of the video while keeping the bitrate, like 352x480 resolution. Hope you get it worked out!

[sacajaweeda]

https://www.videohelp.com/glossary?K#KVCD

[sybariten]

You can actually burn VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders onto a CD, as long as the vobs are under 700 MB. The only problem is having a good enough dvd player to recognize it. I know computers will recognize it as a dvd automatically but I'm not sure about all dvd players. This way you could keep your dvd bitrate quality. Also, there are ways to reduce the size of the video while keeping the bitrate, like 352x480 resolution. Hope you get it worked out!

Thanks for the tip! Sounds splendid, if the player would recognize it. Also I never heard about CDVD before, but that was just what i wanted.

One thing though.... how do you actually get that Video_TS and Audio_TS structure that you mention? I see it on DVDs, but when i render my project in Vegas for instance, i dont exactly get that structure, i get two separate streams (m2v and mp2)

My quest for wisdom in this joint-video-task continues here
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1065113#1065113

Learning these basic video things is really cool.
peace!

[bloo]

Perhaps you are refering to this:


http://www.cs2cd.com


He combined AVCD,DVD and PC formats on a CD. Don't know how he did it, but what an awesome Disc

[SatStorm]

IMO, just do a standard SVCD.
SVCD look great (not excellent, but great)

Since you are PAL, I suggest you to encode to mpeg 2, with 2520kb/s CBR and the official PAL SVCD framesize (480 x 576). For audio use 224kb/s (more than enough).
Let the authoring and the burning to Nero. It is very easy to do.

That way, you can have about 30 - 35 min of video per CD.