Spyware - Beware!

[bugmenot]

SVCD2DVD Demo is calling home!
At start and after a conversion has been finished SVCD2DVD
opens unwanted Internet-Connections to an unknown IP-address-

[ChrissyBoy]

There is no spyware in the SVCD2DVD Demo. The net connection is to check the date from the server. Block it if you want.

[bugmenot]

In case you didn't know: A PC does have an internal clock!

A programm which operates without the user's knowledge or informed
consent is called Spyware.

[RottenFoxBreath]

either block it then,or just stay off the net when you convert.

[bugmenot]

Another Solution: Don't use SVCD2DVD

Raping Privacy sucks!

[mats.hogberg]

In case you didn't know: A PC does have an internal clock!

In case you didn't know - A PC clock can be reset...

A programm which operates without the user's knowledge or informed
consent is called Spyware.

Most parts of what a program does is completely done without the user's knowledge and consent, like storing and reading defaults, carrying out unknown calculations based on user input etc - If all operations had to be authorized by the user, any app would be useless. Spyware is (to me) something that tracks my doings and reports them to someone. That some piece of soft wants to check the time and date over the web (In this case I'm sure just to verify trial period expiration or registration validity) isn't spyware, at least not in my book.

/Mats

[ChrissyBoy]

Spyware is (to me) something that tracks my doings and reports them to someone.

Indeed.

bugmenot: get your facts right. Do a network monitor check and you will see that no info is sent from your machine.

As stated SVCD2DVD is NOT spyware.

If you don't like that, don't use it. I can name you many applications which try to open a connection... (is WinDVD spyware?).

[pyscrow]

Thats what firewalls are for - as far as I am concerned any software that "calls home" is spyware, software that tries to connect elsewhere is just a pain.

[mats.hogberg]

any software that "calls home" is spyware

Call it whatever you like, but you better get used to it, as more and more soft will.

/Mats

[lordsmurf]

Anything made by Microsoft, Adobe, Symantec, Ahead, and Cyberlink .... just to name a few companies ... calls home for varying reasons.

It's not spyware. Spyware spies on you.

I think you're just paranoid and like to complain.

[bugmenot]

Anything made by Microsoft, Adobe, Symantec, Ahead, and Cyberlink .... just to name a few companies ... calls home for varying reasons.

And killing people is alright, because so many soldiers do it.

[bugmenot]

Spyware is (to me) something that tracks my doings and reports them to someone.

Indeed.

bugmenot: get your facts right. Do a network monitor check and you will see that no info is sent from your machine.

At least the IP is transmitted, which is personal information.
Do I see what the target-server is doing with my IP? NO

As stated SVCD2DVD is NOT spyware.

SVCD2DVD transmits my IP and other unknown data without my knowledge, therefore it IS Spyware!

If you don't like that, don't use it. I can name you many applications which try to open a connection... (is WinDVD spyware?).

If other Apps are doing this does this in NO CASE mean that it is right or even legal! If WinDVD opens unwanted Internet-Connections it is Spyware
as SVCD2DVD is!

[ttyke21]

I think you have got your solution Bug..... stop using it. I mean you can always use other programmes that take 3 or 4 or 10 times longer to do the same job, what makes it worse........... they will more than likely conect to home as well.

And how moronic an answer is that about soldiers, killing etc...... a REALY good well thought out and adult reply that friend.

[DaBarrister]

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And killing people is alright, because so many soldiers do it.

That was rather unnecessary.

[rebarlow]

I think you have got your solution Bug..... stop using it. I mean you can always use other programmes that take 3 or 4 or 10 times longer to do the same job, what makes it worse........... they will more than likely conect to home as well.

It's a personal decision whether this degree of intrusion constitutes a violation of the individual's privacy. What Bugmenot has done is alert others that SVCD2VCD does, in fact, connect to the internet and share an unknown amount of information. It that's OK with you, fine. If you don't like it, you have the right to know and decide whether it's worth having the software on your computer.

[mats.hogberg]

connect to the internet and share an unknown amount of information.

But it is known. It shares nothing. It checks the date from the authoes server (or a time server or whatever). Unfortunately, computer to computer connections over TCP/IP can't be made without giving away your IP... (well it can, but hat's another story!)
If you're that anal about it, I suggest unplugging your network cable/modem at once, never to replug it.

/Mats

[bugmenot]

...
And how moronic an answer is that about soldiers, killing etc...... a REALY good well thought out and adult reply that friend.

To be able to recognize irony is half the battle!
The sentence is not more moronic as the "argument" that other programms
call home too.

[ChrissyBoy]

Look guys, let’s calm down. We have all made our points. Let’s leave it at that. People can make their own choices now.

[bugmenot]

connect to the internet and share an unknown amount of information.

But it is known. It shares nothing.

(Apart from the IP) it is known to you not to me and it's not the task of the
user to check for this.

It checks the date from the authoes server (or a time server or whatever). Unfortunately, computer to computer connections over TCP/IP can't be made without giving away your IP... (well it can, but hat's another story!)
If you're that anal about it, I suggest unplugging your network cable/modem at once, never to replug it.

/Mats

NO! The solution has to be that SVCD2DVD works properly. If
there is a need for making an Internet-Connection the user should at
least to be informed about this. Making this behind the back of the users
is not the right way.