Help with printing DVDs

[Bodyslide]

D-Skins

http://www.d-skin.com/home.html

[p_l]

RickTheRed,
Where in Montreal do you get your Krylon?

[RickTheRed]

p_l
You will find a very good choice of Krylon cans at Renot depot /paint department. :P

JeeDub
I like this Dlink stuff. Sounds like a cool product.
I did not know the cover/to. I will check this as well.
I like cdcovers, but I don't understand why do people upload some of the pictures I've seen. Whouach

This is slightly off topic but where do Canadian people buy their R200/300 ink cartridges? I am wondering if cartridges from Blankmedia are good.

[anaboland]

old news paper a few sheets thick, put disc on news paper, apply slight pressure using something like a old ink refill bottle to centre of disc...

This is what I did to create my first coasters, but I must admit that I did not put something to create pressure. I might try this as well.

Yeah the first few times i tryed i didn't hold the disc down and the pressure of the spray either lifted the disc or moved it allowing spray to get on the underside of the disc. But holding the disc in place has worked well with hundreds of discs for both myself and friends.

When i say apply pressure i mean press down on the centre of the disc using finger pressure , not just the weight of the empty bottle or whatever you choose to use.

[Blazey]

A bit off topic, but I just bought a new Primera Signature Z1 CD/DVD Thermal Printer. Cost is 15 cents per disc. Not colorful, but very professional and waterproof. Since I'm only labeling my backups, I'm happy.

[p_l]

This is slightly off topic but where do Canadian people buy their R200/300 ink cartridges? I am wondering if cartridges from Blankmedia are good.

I got mine from blankmedia.ca. As I'm just about to run out of my first original cartridge, I'll soon get a chance to see how good they are. Other people on this forum have been satisfied. It's a great price, especially for Canada: $8 each, or $45 for a six-pack. That sure beats the $130 it would cost you at Bureau en gros/Staples for the 6 Epson cartridges. I also get my DVD-R 4X PRODISC WHITE HUB INKJET PRINTABLES there, and they've been great.

[beric3236]

out of the blue, has anyone tried to use the thin jewel cases for spraying and with what kind of luck.

[kbuegel]

So, I'm attempting to print onto clear labels, but the problem is that the printer does not lay down white ink. So, anything in the image that is white ends up being clear. This has the effect of making a somewhat transluscent image, and sort of looks like a color negative, except that the colors are not reversed. If I was printing overhead transparencies, this would be fine. but I'm printing on clear DVD labels, so its not fine.

So does anyone know of a printer that can lay down white ink?

[RickTheRed]

Ok, I have tried the following sprays:

1- Krylon 0500 triple thick gloss
Forget what I've said. It's very, very hard to apply.
It's the type of spray with a metal ball inside that you have to
shake the can forever. Even then, it will manage to produce inconsistent flow. And triple thick does not allow room for inconsistent flow.
Final result is shiny but bumpy. Even with spraying time under 2 seconds.

2- Krylon "preserve-it" gloss finish
Humm.
How can I say. I don't like the look. Granular, grainy finish. Not really glossy.

3- Krylon 1301 (gloss)
It's less bumby and easier to apply (no steel ball, no 2 minutes shaking).
IMO it's the winner amongs those three products for a nice glossy look.

[fscrocco]

I have a real easy method I've used about 100 times. Take a cd jewel case, open it, take a napkin or paper towel (doubled), cut a hole about the size of a quarter in the middle, put over jewel case hub, snap dvd into the case. The dvd gets pulled into the napkin, depressing the napkin around the edges. I then put on an old glove, hold the dvd case by the open part of the lid, and spray. Put the napkin's edge at the inside edge of the hinged edge. When you go to close the lid after spraying, the napkin keeps the lid from closing all the way, leaving about a quarter inch gap. This allows the paint to breathe/dry, but keeps dust from settling on the paint. I use Krylon 1313 Satin, nice finish. I've tried Krylon Triple Thick, terrible looking, and Krylon Gloss, almost looks like Satin because when you put a light coat, it doesn't have a deep glossy look.

[lgh529]

Of all the posts in the past that I thought were the best ideas, this one I liked the best.

But I have to admit Blazey has one of the best ideas, I think I'm gonna have to try it this weekend.

[RickTheRed]

I have tried the jewel case with a coaster under the disc to close the gap and so far, I have done 20 and I have tested half of them. No coasters.

Now that I feel that I can spray without creating coasters, I will experiment other sprays.

3- Krylon 1301 (gloss)
It's less bumpy and easier to apply (no steel ball, no 2 minutes shaking).
IMO it's the winner amongs those three products for a nice glossy look.

Ok. I've tried again with the triple thick, 1301 and "preserve it".
Took 3 prodics, partially printed them and performed identical spray. Another coat after 20 minutes.
1301 is ok but not perfect IMO.

I will probably try with the 1313, if I can find it.

[tomreedtoon]

Attempting this for the first time, after using my Epson R200 printer on two Ritek CD's:

Laying the CD''s on several layers of newspaper and weighing down the center of the disk with...get this...D cell flashlight batteries.

Will let you know how it works.

[Bud]

Here’s something else to try. This works for me and the results are extremely good for my use. I record the DVD. Put a BLANK Glossy Label on the DVD. Put the DVD in my Epson R300 and print on the Blank Label. Everyone has his or her own method and this one works for me. I use the Avery Glossy type; they tend to be a little more thinner then the Matte type and are very easy to apply.

Bud

[iooi]

Put a BLANK Glossy Label on the DVD. Put the DVD in my Epson R300 and print on the Blank Label. Bud

Er but the idea of printable disks is to get away from sticking labels onto disks which are a known to cause plaayback problems......

[Bud]

iooi

Yes, that's why I choose to use the thin labels, never had a problem with playing so far. At some point I may try the printable type, again this is what I use, as stated everyone has his or her own way do doing this. I am satisfied with my results and I don't have to worry about spraying anything on the DVD. If the spraying is not done correctly you end up with coasters, and may get playback problems also if not sprayed on correectly. So again just use the method that works best for you and the one that you are satsifed with. I like the glossy look I get.

Bud

[kbuegel]

I've tried printing on blank glossy (plastic) labels, but the problem is there is no white background color so anything in your print-out that is white ends up clear. This makes the print-out very dark. If you're sticking to label to a white printable DVD, this may be OK, but if you're putting it on a regular non-white DVD, then its not.

Also, I'm not sure but I don't think the clear labels will be waterproof, unless you overcoat them with the craft spray.

[The-One]

So does anyone know of a printer that can lay down white ink?

I don't think you will ever find a white ink cartridge for any printer.....and there's no way you're going to get white from any combination of black, cyan, magenta, or yellow. Just get white glossy labels and save the clear ones for images that look good with a silver background, some do look good that way.

back to the printable disc subject, why aren't there glossy printable DVDs made? Is it not possible to make an inkjet printable disc with a glossy surface.

To the people saying they bought the R200 or 300 just to print CDs/DVDs, have you tried printing borderless photos? They look like you just went and had a roll of film developed professionally. It makes a HUGE difference what kind of paper you use though. I used the free sample of Epson paper that came with the printer first and they were perfect. Then I got some Kodak paper and they looked terrible. I had to order the Epson paper since no local stores carry it, buts it's well worth it.

[RickTheRed]

have you tried printing borderless photos? They look like you just went and had a roll of film developed professionally.

This is true. I fully agree. Epson premium glossy photo paper creates photos that compare to pro labs. And if you know where to buy it, it is cheaper, compared to other branded photo papers (kodak, canon)

I think that Ritek gives the best finish, prodisc second and the last position is taken by Taiyo Yuden. TY surface lacks saturation. Colors look dull a bit and finish is very matte.
But the best media here is TY

[jimmalenko]

So does anyone know of a printer that can lay down white ink?

I don't think you will ever find a white ink cartridge for any printer.....and there's no way you're going to get white from any combination of black, cyan, magenta, or yellow.

Sure you can. Its composition is black=0, cyan=0, magenta=0 and yellow=0. see ?

[lynnsabcs]

Stop me if I'm stating the obvious, but as far as keeping your ink usage down, print on the white top printables. Do not use a background color. Let the white be the pallet for your design and use a photo or other graphic to add color and then do your title in a dark color.

Just my 2 cents.

LynnsABCs

[The-One]

Sure you can. Its composition is black=0, cyan=0, magenta=0 and yellow=0. see ?

but your still not getting white ink....the white is coming from your white paper